Alikat
2015-07-23, 02:26 PM
Hi all,
I want to make and optimize a Green Knight stylized character, per Sean Connery’s portrayal in the Sword of the Valiant. It’s one of the worst movies ever made, but I saw it as a kid a bunch of times so it always stuck with me.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/40/14/8a40144dfb9a5749509f46d24d6ec7ef.jpg
The obvious answer seemed to be an oath of the ancients paladin – but the character will be somewhere south of good, not full blown villain, but enough so that I can only see him living up to about half of the Oaths.
The next best answer is a Fey-bladelock in plate armor. Ways to get plate armor: paladin, fighter, feats.
Paladin can’t be more than 2 levels, none of the Oaths fit, even oathbreaker is too necromantic for the concept I’m imagining. 2 lvls means lay on hands is never more than 10hp, and smite uses will never be more than 2 1st lvls and 4 5th lvls. Though the 5th lvls do recharge on only a short rest.. I’m not sure it’s the best use of warlock spell slots. Maybe some one with paladin/warlock gameplay experience can speak on that? The character will be human, and my DM gives everyone a feat at lvl 1. So for this build I’d likely begin with great weapon mastery and magic initiate, so he has that arcane fey knight feel straight from level 1.
1-2 levels of fighter is also an option. Proficiencies and fighting style same as a Paladin, but second wind and action surge instead of lay on hands and smite. I’d start with the same 2 feats as the paladin build for this option. Fighter also gives another possibility, lvling to 8 in eldritch knight, int would still be a dump stat, and all eldritch knight spells would be utility and buffs. This grants weapon bond on top of pact weapon, allowing for all sorts of tricksy fey bullsh!t. An extra ASI at lvl 6, and the lvl 7 eldritch knight ability that lets me eldritch blast and weapon attack in the same round. Second wind will be pumped up to 8d10 too, which I could kind of reflavor as the Green Knights re-attach his own head trick.
The third option is using the human feat and the DM granted feat to go pure warlock and get the medium armor and heavy armor feats at lvl 1. So full warlock class features, plate armor, and can start with 18 str at lvl 1 on a standard 27 point build.
Looking for input from people who have gameplay experience with these classes, or who are familiar with the character I’m basing the concept around. (There’s a story with a near identical plot in the Dragonlance novel “The Oath and The Measure” where a Druidic Knight faces up against Sturm Brightblade after tricking him into playing an impossible to win game.)
Thanks all!
I want to make and optimize a Green Knight stylized character, per Sean Connery’s portrayal in the Sword of the Valiant. It’s one of the worst movies ever made, but I saw it as a kid a bunch of times so it always stuck with me.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/40/14/8a40144dfb9a5749509f46d24d6ec7ef.jpg
The obvious answer seemed to be an oath of the ancients paladin – but the character will be somewhere south of good, not full blown villain, but enough so that I can only see him living up to about half of the Oaths.
The next best answer is a Fey-bladelock in plate armor. Ways to get plate armor: paladin, fighter, feats.
Paladin can’t be more than 2 levels, none of the Oaths fit, even oathbreaker is too necromantic for the concept I’m imagining. 2 lvls means lay on hands is never more than 10hp, and smite uses will never be more than 2 1st lvls and 4 5th lvls. Though the 5th lvls do recharge on only a short rest.. I’m not sure it’s the best use of warlock spell slots. Maybe some one with paladin/warlock gameplay experience can speak on that? The character will be human, and my DM gives everyone a feat at lvl 1. So for this build I’d likely begin with great weapon mastery and magic initiate, so he has that arcane fey knight feel straight from level 1.
1-2 levels of fighter is also an option. Proficiencies and fighting style same as a Paladin, but second wind and action surge instead of lay on hands and smite. I’d start with the same 2 feats as the paladin build for this option. Fighter also gives another possibility, lvling to 8 in eldritch knight, int would still be a dump stat, and all eldritch knight spells would be utility and buffs. This grants weapon bond on top of pact weapon, allowing for all sorts of tricksy fey bullsh!t. An extra ASI at lvl 6, and the lvl 7 eldritch knight ability that lets me eldritch blast and weapon attack in the same round. Second wind will be pumped up to 8d10 too, which I could kind of reflavor as the Green Knights re-attach his own head trick.
The third option is using the human feat and the DM granted feat to go pure warlock and get the medium armor and heavy armor feats at lvl 1. So full warlock class features, plate armor, and can start with 18 str at lvl 1 on a standard 27 point build.
Looking for input from people who have gameplay experience with these classes, or who are familiar with the character I’m basing the concept around. (There’s a story with a near identical plot in the Dragonlance novel “The Oath and The Measure” where a Druidic Knight faces up against Sturm Brightblade after tricking him into playing an impossible to win game.)
Thanks all!