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Morty
2007-05-03, 03:03 PM
Question is simple: in what books I can find something about all sorts of 'greenskins'- orcs, goblins, hobgoblins etc.? I know there's much about kobolds in Races of Dragon, but I don't care about kobolds. I'll probably try to get such book as soon as I'm abroad.

Person_Man
2007-05-03, 03:12 PM
There's an excellent third party book called "Fury in the Wastelands" that's all about orcs. I'm not familiar with any sourcebook that's all about goblinoids.

InaVegt
2007-05-03, 03:19 PM
I'm not familiar with any sourcebook that's all about goblinoids.

There's the slayer's guide to goblins, otherwise I dinneh know either.

Matthew
2007-05-03, 10:35 PM
*Mutter* "Greenskins" *mutter* "stupid bloody Games Workshop has a lot to answer for" *mutter*...

Yeah, I will second Fury in the Wastelands (http://www.kenzerco.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28_44&products_id=171), but it should be pointed out that it was written with Kalamar in mind. No real specific Orc resources I can think of for D&D by Wizards.

SpiderBrigade
2007-05-03, 10:49 PM
As Matthew alludes to, it's important to remember that in D&D, orcs don't have anything to do with goblins. Goblinoids are basically goblins, bugbears, hobgoblins. And they're all orange-toned. Orcs are greenish, but they're just orcs.

Dhavaer
2007-05-03, 11:01 PM
Actually, orcs were described as grey in the 3.0 Monster Manual. I don't recall if it's different in 3.5.
There's probably a green-skinned elf somewhere, though.

TheThan
2007-05-03, 11:19 PM
Actually, orcs were described as grey in the 3.0 Monster Manual. I don't recall if it's different in 3.5.
There's probably a green-skinned elf somewhere, though.

there are, you find them passed out in pubs!

Morty
2007-05-04, 02:46 AM
Clarification: I'm not looking for specific orc&goblin books- I know there aren't any except of Fury in The Wastelands- but for any books with some more information about them.
And yeah, I know that in D&D orcs and goblinoids aren't related. I use term 'greenskins' because I like it.

BardicDuelist
2007-05-04, 07:54 AM
I think there was a Forgotten Realms thing called Sond of Grummush or something like that....

Matthew
2007-05-04, 07:56 AM
Yes indeed, well remembered. Sons of Grummush (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/884467400) is actually an Adventure Module, but also contains information about Orcs in the Forgotten Realms.

Piedmon_Sama
2007-05-04, 09:54 AM
Monster Manual IV goes at length about Orc Culture, but honestly it's nothing you couldn't decide for yourself (and you'd probably do a much better job of making a believable society.)

Also, all my Orcs are green, except the ones that are Black...

Meat Shield
2007-05-04, 10:44 AM
There is also Strength and Honor (http://www.kenzerco.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28_44&products_id=282), a hobgoblin specific source book. Also for the Kalamar setting.