KnockDown feat(3.5e/3e)?

[theboss]

So i was planning on taking this feat untill i saw its orginally from 3rd e, my question is:
1. Is there a version of it in 3.5e? if so, can you make a free attack after trip your foe?
thanks for helping

[OldTrees1]

Depends on which version you use. The latest version(in the 3.5 SRD under the Deities and Demigods section) allows you to do hit -> trip -> hit provided you still have Improved Trip.

[theboss]

Depends on which version you use. The latest version(in the 3.5 SRD under the Deities and Demigods section) allows you to do hit -> trip -> hit provided you still have Improved Trip.

ya, the latest version. in which page can i find it?

[Red Fel]

ya, the latest version. in which page can i find it?

You mean this one (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#knockDown)? Or the one found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35)? (Hint: They're the same.)

Yes, Knock-Down is technically 3.5-current.

[theboss]

You mean this one (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#knockDown)? Or the one found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35)? (Hint: They're the same.)

Yes, Knock-Down is technically 3.5-current.



thanks man

[LooseCannoneer]

Depends on which version you use. The latest version(in the 3.5 SRD under the Deities and Demigods section) allows you to do hit -> trip -> hit provided you still have Improved Trip.

Improved Trip is a requirement for Knock-Down.

[OldTrees1]

Improved Trip is a requirement for Knock-Down.

It is. However you do not get the benefit of Improved Trip if you no longer have Improved Trip(high OP trades feats often). Hence why I said you needed Improved Trip to get the 2nd attack(true for all cases rather than just the assumed case).

[LooseCannoneer]

It is. However you do not get the benefit of Improved Trip if you no longer have Improved Trip(high OP trades feats often). Hence why I said you needed Improved Trip to get the 2nd attack(true for all cases rather than just the assumed case).

You can't even use Knock-Down without Improved Trip, though.

[OldTrees1]

You can't even use Knock-Down without Improved Trip, though.
I forgot Knock-down wasn't a Fighter Bonus Feat.

[Flickerdart]

I forgot Knock-down wasn't a Fighter Bonus Feat.
Fighters don't get to ignore prerequisites when selecting their bonus feats.

[OldTrees1]

Fighters don't get to ignore prerequisites when selecting their bonus feats.
Martial Monk.

Again, my initial statement was being extra precise. I think this derailment can end here right?

[Curmudgeon]

Martial Monk.
Does that matter? Monks have no ability to use the feats they've selected until they meet the prerequisites.

[LooseCannoneer]

Fighters don't get to ignore prerequisites when selecting their bonus feats.

Weirdly enough, there's a paragraph of rules that prevents them from using it. I'm away from my books right now, but its in PH, page 87, second column. It basically says that you can't use a feat if you don't currently meet the prerequisites.

More importantly, where does it say that Fighters get to ignore prerequisites? If so, I've got some build tweaking to do.

[Flickerdart]

More importantly, where does it say that Fighters get to ignore prerequisites? If so, I've got some build tweaking to do.
The second word of the sentence you quoted is "don't."

[LooseCannoneer]

The second word of the sentence you quoted is "don't."

I'm capable of reading.

[Flickerdart]

I'm capable of reading.

Then I don't understand why you quoted a post you know says "Fighters can't ignore prerequisites" and then asked where it says they get to ignore prerequisites.

[Max Caysey]

The erretta removed the option to get the free attack from improved trip while using this feat. Sword and Fist erretta that is.

[Flickerdart]

The erretta removed the option to get the free attack from improved trip while using this feat. Sword and Fist erretta that is.
Sword and Fist errata doesn't take precedence over the later reprint of the feat in Deities and Demigods, published over a year later.

[Curmudgeon]

Sword and Fist errata doesn't take precedence over the later reprint of the feat in Deities and Demigods, published over a year later.
And similarly, the Deities and Demigods update was superseded by the updated SRD version of the feat.