walrusman
2015-08-18, 10:11 AM
My friend is starting a new campaign in September. We have until then to build a character up to level 6 where we start. He and I are both knowledgeable with the books and the cheese available with 3.5e. So he has limited quite a few options, or made interesting home-brew stuff to accommodate cheese. I won't list all of the banned stuff but only the most common suggestions.
I am interested in building a Melee oriented cleric. Focusing on being the physical offense and defense between our party and the monsters. I was planning to use spells to buff myself so that my party members could do their own thing and I'd need minimal assistance (Already looking at having Mighty wallop provided by the party wizard)
I will start with the list of available books: Champions Of Valor, City Of Splendors - Waterdeep, Complete (Adventurer, Arcane, Champion, Divine, Mage, Scoundrel, Warrior), Dragons Of Faerūn, Dungeon Masters Guide, Faiths And Pantheons, Lost Empires Of Faerūn, Magic Item Compendium, Magic Of Faerūn, Monster Manual, Monsters Of Faerūn, Players Handbook, Player's Guide To Faerūn, Power Of Faerūn, Races Of (Destiny, Faerūn, Stone, Dragon, Wild), Spell Compendium, Unearthed Arcana
There is no LA buyoff.
PERSIST SPELL IS BANNED
Nightstick Stacking (1 works. >1 doesn't) is BANNED
He has changed Flaws to his own custom table, of which I took 2.
The penalties are as follows
Damage dealt is as if it was 2 size categories smaller (longsword = 1d4 damage) (Light hitter)
-2 to Saves, attacks, damage and ability rolls in anything other then bright light (Nyctophobia - Fear of darkness)
28 point buy abilities Attributes: Base[+Racial+Template] (Total) lvl modifiers
Before Saint:
STR 12 (12) +20 DEX 10 (10) CON 14 (14) +12,+16 INT 12 (12) WIS 14+2(16) CHA 14+2 (18) +4,+8
After Saint:
STR 12 (12) +20 DEX 10 (10) CON 14+0+2 (16) INT 12 (12) WIS 14+2+2(18) +12,+16 CHA 14+2+4 (20) +4,+8
My current chosen Race is Aasimar (the PGtF version that is humanoid instead of outsider and loses the LA)
I was thinking of progressing into the saint template at some point but he is rolling randomly for some books every few levels. We have already come to an agreement that I will most likely get it once its available so long as i meet the feat requirements as normal (3 exalted feats). This is up in the air. It would make nice fluff, but i can do without it if i can come up with a class progression i like
Current build broken down by level.
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +2 Domains: WAR, COURAGE, KNOWLEDGE (Knowledge Devotion) Lore (Ex): Bardic Knowledge ability based on Cloistered cleric Skills (28): Concentration 4, Diplomacy 4, Heal 4, Knowledge (Arcana) 4, Knowledge (Religion) 4, Knowledge (The Planes) 4, Spellcraft 4 Feats (1): Skill Focus Knowledge (Religion), Knowledge Devotion [Replaces Knowledge domain], Nimbus of Light [FLAW], Nymphs Kiss [FLAW] Flaws (2): Light Hitter (damage - 2 size catagories), Nyktophobia (-2 to attack, saves, skills in not bright light)
Paladin BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +0 Aura of Good: Radiate Moderate Good aura Detect evil: As the spell, at will Smite Evil: 1/day, add CHA bonus to attack role and +1 damage/paladin lvl Skills (3): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Sense Motive 2
Paladin BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +1, Ref +0, Will +0 Divine Grace: Add CHA bonus to all Saving throws Lay on Hands: Heal 2xCHA bonus Hit points total/day Skills (3): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Sense Motive 2 Feats: Quicken Spell +1 4th : Ability Score : Wisdom +1 (17)
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +1, Ref +0, Will +1 Skills (7): Diplomacy 3, Knowledge (Arcana) 1, Knowledge (Religion) 1), Knowledge (The Planes) 1), Speak Language 1
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +0, Ref +1, Will +0 Skills (7): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Speak Language 6
Church Inquisitor BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +2 Detect Evil: As the spell, at will Domains: INQUISITION Skills(5) Search 2, Spot 2, Sense Motive 1 Feats: Gift of Grace
I'm currently progressing into Ordained Champion (level 8) to build up some additional damage. But right now I'm struggling trying to overcome that -2 size to damage. If anyone has any good suggestions to boost damage output. I would greatly like to hear about it!
Thanks so much for reading and suggestions!
I am interested in building a Melee oriented cleric. Focusing on being the physical offense and defense between our party and the monsters. I was planning to use spells to buff myself so that my party members could do their own thing and I'd need minimal assistance (Already looking at having Mighty wallop provided by the party wizard)
I will start with the list of available books: Champions Of Valor, City Of Splendors - Waterdeep, Complete (Adventurer, Arcane, Champion, Divine, Mage, Scoundrel, Warrior), Dragons Of Faerūn, Dungeon Masters Guide, Faiths And Pantheons, Lost Empires Of Faerūn, Magic Item Compendium, Magic Of Faerūn, Monster Manual, Monsters Of Faerūn, Players Handbook, Player's Guide To Faerūn, Power Of Faerūn, Races Of (Destiny, Faerūn, Stone, Dragon, Wild), Spell Compendium, Unearthed Arcana
There is no LA buyoff.
PERSIST SPELL IS BANNED
Nightstick Stacking (1 works. >1 doesn't) is BANNED
He has changed Flaws to his own custom table, of which I took 2.
The penalties are as follows
Damage dealt is as if it was 2 size categories smaller (longsword = 1d4 damage) (Light hitter)
-2 to Saves, attacks, damage and ability rolls in anything other then bright light (Nyctophobia - Fear of darkness)
28 point buy abilities Attributes: Base[+Racial+Template] (Total) lvl modifiers
Before Saint:
STR 12 (12) +20 DEX 10 (10) CON 14 (14) +12,+16 INT 12 (12) WIS 14+2(16) CHA 14+2 (18) +4,+8
After Saint:
STR 12 (12) +20 DEX 10 (10) CON 14+0+2 (16) INT 12 (12) WIS 14+2+2(18) +12,+16 CHA 14+2+4 (20) +4,+8
My current chosen Race is Aasimar (the PGtF version that is humanoid instead of outsider and loses the LA)
I was thinking of progressing into the saint template at some point but he is rolling randomly for some books every few levels. We have already come to an agreement that I will most likely get it once its available so long as i meet the feat requirements as normal (3 exalted feats). This is up in the air. It would make nice fluff, but i can do without it if i can come up with a class progression i like
Current build broken down by level.
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +2 Domains: WAR, COURAGE, KNOWLEDGE (Knowledge Devotion) Lore (Ex): Bardic Knowledge ability based on Cloistered cleric Skills (28): Concentration 4, Diplomacy 4, Heal 4, Knowledge (Arcana) 4, Knowledge (Religion) 4, Knowledge (The Planes) 4, Spellcraft 4 Feats (1): Skill Focus Knowledge (Religion), Knowledge Devotion [Replaces Knowledge domain], Nimbus of Light [FLAW], Nymphs Kiss [FLAW] Flaws (2): Light Hitter (damage - 2 size catagories), Nyktophobia (-2 to attack, saves, skills in not bright light)
Paladin BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +0 Aura of Good: Radiate Moderate Good aura Detect evil: As the spell, at will Smite Evil: 1/day, add CHA bonus to attack role and +1 damage/paladin lvl Skills (3): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Sense Motive 2
Paladin BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +1, Ref +0, Will +0 Divine Grace: Add CHA bonus to all Saving throws Lay on Hands: Heal 2xCHA bonus Hit points total/day Skills (3): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Sense Motive 2 Feats: Quicken Spell +1 4th : Ability Score : Wisdom +1 (17)
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +1, Ref +0, Will +1 Skills (7): Diplomacy 3, Knowledge (Arcana) 1, Knowledge (Religion) 1), Knowledge (The Planes) 1), Speak Language 1
Cloistered Cleric BAB : +1 Saves: Fort +0, Ref +1, Will +0 Skills (7): Knowledge (Religion) 1, Speak Language 6
Church Inquisitor BAB : +0 Saves: Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +2 Detect Evil: As the spell, at will Domains: INQUISITION Skills(5) Search 2, Spot 2, Sense Motive 1 Feats: Gift of Grace
I'm currently progressing into Ordained Champion (level 8) to build up some additional damage. But right now I'm struggling trying to overcome that -2 size to damage. If anyone has any good suggestions to boost damage output. I would greatly like to hear about it!
Thanks so much for reading and suggestions!