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tadkins
2015-08-19, 05:41 AM
I have a character who would absolutely love to use this as a custom-made weapon at some point, but I'm not sure what it would be classified in D&D/PF terms. Thoughts?

http://pre09.deviantart.net/e2ab/th/pre/i/2015/132/6/1/demise_by_ahakarin-d8t60ro.jpg

Mystral
2015-08-19, 05:44 AM
Looks like a morning star. Perhaps with a frost enchantment?

The black metal could be adamantite.

frogglesmash
2015-08-19, 05:52 AM
Looks like a morning star. Perhaps with a frost enchantment?

The black metal could be adamantite.

Nah, that's a mace. Morningstars tend to be wooden hafted and covered in spikes whereas maces are typically one piece of metal with a flanged head.

TheRagi
2015-08-19, 05:57 AM
Kinda looks like a tri-point double-edged sword.

From Ultimate Equipament (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateEquipment/armsAndArmor/weapons.html):

Tri-point double-edged sword
Topping the head of this 5-foot-long shaft are three long, backward-curved blades fashioned in the appearance of a blossoming lotus. The unusually large head is designed to land heavy blows and cause multiple wounds that open away from each other.
12 gp
1d8 or 1d10 ×3
14 lbs.
Piercing
Reach

Mystral
2015-08-19, 05:57 AM
That was my first thought, too. But that thing's head is covered in pointy bits, and maces only deal blunt damage in d&d, while morning stars deal piercing or blunt.

Deadline
2015-08-19, 09:56 AM
So I'm going to suggest that it's either a Heavy Mace (if you want something Martial), or a Warmace (if you want something Exotic):

http://shadowd20.pbworks.com/f/1208916027/Equipment-Warmace.jpg

As already suggested, it looks like it is Adamantine (or possibly Cold Iron), with a Frost enchantment. You might also consider making it similar to the Lifedrinker, if your player is evil, based purely on the name.

tadkins
2015-08-19, 11:32 AM
Thanks guys. :)

The weapon in question is intended for a NG Dwarf Cleric of Pharasma with the Knowledge/Frost domains. Not evil, but definitely inclined to wield something dark and gothic looking. The only way to deal with the undead is with a giant blunt and pointy object to the face, after all. I picture that weapon would also be great for tripping, a good tactic for a dwarf.

Martial or Exotic wouldn't matter, I'd have no issue spending the necessary feats. Warmace seems definitely fitting, which comes from a D&D book but I can't find anything similar for PF.

Perhaps this?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/earth-breaker

Ashtagon
2015-08-19, 03:19 PM
Looks like a feather-duster.

How much damage does a feather-duster do?

tadkins
2015-08-19, 04:21 PM
Looks like a feather-duster.

How much damage does a feather-duster do?

Probably pretty damaging with the Ninja Maid (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NinjaMaid) PrC.

Thurbane
2015-08-19, 05:09 PM
How a bout this weapon? Simply a battle axe with a fancy pommel, or some kind of double weapon?

http://i58.tinypic.com/2iqy5vk.jpg

Oberon Kenobi
2015-08-19, 05:15 PM
Probably pretty damaging with the Ninja Maid (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NinjaMaid) PrC.Profession (Maid) + Rough and Ready (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/equipment-traits/rough-and-ready). Done. :smallcool:

Mystral
2015-08-19, 05:27 PM
Thanks guys. :)

The weapon in question is intended for a NG Dwarf Cleric of Pharasma with the Knowledge/Frost domains. Not evil, but definitely inclined to wield something dark and gothic looking. The only way to deal with the undead is with a giant blunt and pointy object to the face, after all. I picture that weapon would also be great for tripping, a good tactic for a dwarf.

Martial or Exotic wouldn't matter, I'd have no issue spending the necessary feats. Warmace seems definitely fitting, which comes from a D&D book but I can't find anything similar for PF.

Perhaps this?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/earth-breaker

If you want it as a custom weapon with martial or exotic properties, this would be my suggestion:

Martial: Dmg 1d8 Critical x2, disarm, trip
Exotic: Dmg 1d10, critical x3, disarm, trip

Either way, that weapon looks one-handed, or the shaft would have far too much girth to handle with human hands.

[That's what she said]

tadkins
2015-08-19, 10:08 PM
Profession (Maid) + Rough and Ready (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/equipment-traits/rough-and-ready). Done. :smallcool:

Wow, I'm gonna have to build a character around something like that at some point. xD


If you want it as a custom weapon with martial or exotic properties, this would be my suggestion:

Martial: Dmg 1d8 Critical x2, disarm, trip
Exotic: Dmg 1d10, critical x3, disarm, trip

Either way, that weapon looks one-handed, or the shaft would have far too much girth to handle with human hands.

[That's what she said]

Rofl.

Yep that's the one flaw to that weapon, the handle is a bit too thick. Some races in the game that comes from look like they have trouble holding it for that reason. I think I would design the shaft to be a little thinner if it was going to be an actual weapon, to make it more reasonably graspable. It is meant to be a 2h weapon though. The hooks look like they'd be great for puncturing and tripping; I'd picture the latter being an effective tactic for a dwarf. But at its heart, the weapon would be one mighty cold smasher!

Qwertystop
2015-08-19, 11:00 PM
Profession (Maid) + Rough and Ready (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/equipment-traits/rough-and-ready). Done. :smallcool:

Doesn't do anything for the fragility of the tools, or nonlethality thereof, though. You'd be better at hitting things with dusters, but they'd still be dusters, that is, blobs of fluff on short sticks.

Mystral
2015-08-20, 04:32 AM
Wow, I'm gonna have to build a character around something like that at some point. xD



Rofl.

Yep that's the one flaw to that weapon, the handle is a bit too thick. Some races in the game that comes from look like they have trouble holding it for that reason. I think I would design the shaft to be a little thinner if it was going to be an actual weapon, to make it more reasonably graspable. It is meant to be a 2h weapon though. The hooks look like they'd be great for puncturing and tripping; I'd picture the latter being an effective tactic for a dwarf. But at its heart, the weapon would be one mighty cold smasher!

Either way, that weapon looks positively ridiculous. Just imagine having to carry that thing around between battles, snagging into curtains and your clothes, poking the mage until he bleeds in cramped situations..

tadkins
2015-08-20, 04:35 AM
Either way, that weapon looks positively ridiculous. Just imagine having to carry that thing around between battles, snagging into curtains and your clothes, poking the mage until he bleeds in cramped situations..

Just a few extra pointy bits. Would other weapons be much less annoying, really?

Vogie
2015-08-20, 08:22 AM
Either way, that weapon looks positively ridiculous. Just imagine having to carry that thing around between battles, snagging into curtains and your clothes, poking the mage until he bleeds in cramped situations..

He could always give it permenant shrink item. Since that could also "change its now shrunken composition to a clothlike one", it would basically go from Gothic Terror Stick to Tassel.

This actually looks more like an Hooked Axe to me, or it would act like one in combat.

Oberon Kenobi
2015-08-20, 02:23 PM
Doesn't do anything for the fragility of the tools, or nonlethality thereof, though. You'd be better at hitting things with dusters, but they'd still be dusters, that is, blobs of fluff on short sticks.That's why you take Arcane Strike! Or be a Magus. Either way ya can treat your feather duster as a magic weapon temporarily, and magic weapons lose the fragile quality. Magus gets bonus points for letting you make your feather duster vorpal eventually. :smallamused:

Qwertystop
2015-08-20, 03:14 PM
That's why you take Arcane Strike! Or be a Magus. Either way ya can treat your feather duster as a magic weapon temporarily, and magic weapons lose the fragile quality. Magus gets bonus points for letting you make your feather duster vorpal eventually. :smallamused:

Fine, no longer fragile. Do you have a way to make it do lethal damage? Or any damage at all, really? I mean, the stick on its own would probably do less damage than a sap, and then you add fluffy padding to make it a duster.

Thurbane
2015-08-20, 04:31 PM
How a bout this weapon? Simply a battle axe with a fancy pommel, or some kind of double weapon?

http://i58.tinypic.com/2iqy5vk.jpg

No one?
...........

Oberon Kenobi
2015-08-20, 06:26 PM
Fine, no longer fragile. Do you have a way to make it do lethal damage? Or any damage at all, really? I mean, the stick on its own would probably do less damage than a sap, and then you add fluffy padding to make it a duster.You've clearly been hit with different feather dusters than I have. :smalltongue:

ExLibrisMortis
2015-08-20, 06:47 PM
I tried to search for 'most epic feather duster', but all I got was a Yu-Gi-Oh card, a deformed budgie, some sea anemone-like creatures, and a lot of regular feather dusters :smallfrown:.

tadkins
2015-08-20, 09:32 PM
No one?
...........

Not sure, the weapon in question would probably function more like a mace than an axe.

DrMotives
2015-08-20, 11:44 PM
Other than the glowey weirdness, this looks kinda like the grapple pole weapon from an old Sega game, Chakan. Basically a grapple hook on a stick. That's a game that has lots to give for conversion to something else though, you got to play an immortal zombie swordsmaster who usually dual wielded katana, and wore a pilgrim hat. Then you hunt down and kill demon lords, and forgotten gods of things that died before the dinosaurs came around.

Thurbane
2015-08-21, 02:17 AM
Not sure, the weapon in question would probably function more like a mace than an axe.

I was thinking maybe one end axe, one end morning star - like a variant Orc Double-axe, or Dwarven Urgrosh?