In a gestalt game- Randomly rolled spells?

[The Vagabond]

Let's just say someone decided to run a Gestalt Sorcerer game- But to encourage a wide variety of spells, and to make it something of a Nerf, required that you randomly roll for spells. What do you think of this?

[noob]

It is pretty cool until the sorcerer only useful spell is fireball and that the wizard still got all the spells by trading with six wizards in the university in exchange of giving them spells and some money.(with everybody as a sorcerer gish the priest and wizard are still going to be better even more true if the fighter sorcerer have bad luck)

[Doc_Maynot]

If I am understanding this correctly. The entire party get's sorcerer levels on the gestalt side, and they randomly roll for spells known? Do they get to choose their bloodline?
If they get to choose the bloodline, I could see that being just fine honestly. Otherwise you could end up with a wide disparity (The character with 13 Charisma has all the good 4+ Level spells, and no 1st through 3rd level utility ones they can use to help them out.)

[ExLibrisMortis]

What spell list is used? Can you access runestaves, or better yet, psychic reformation?

A random sorcerer is worse than a beguiler or dread necromancer, possibly worse than a warmage even, simply because you don't know what to build for. You can invest in metamagic reduction, and end up without orb spells (or similar).

You can use something like Ultimate Magus, or Arcane Strike, to usefully expend spell slots, without caring what spells you know. You can also use Arcane Disciple and prestige classes like Walker in the Waste to expand your spell list with powerful options. Overall, sorcerer casting still gives you dozens of spell slots per day, you just need a couple of spells to get t2 power.

Overall, expect spikes of full t2 power, but generally builds will focus on the other side of the gestalt build, because it's more dependable.

[Kurald Galain]

Let's just say someone decided to run a Gestalt Sorcerer game- But to encourage a wide variety of spells, and to make it something of a Nerf, required that you randomly roll for spells. What do you think of this?

That's quite the nerf, because there are a lot of really bad spells on the sorc/wiz list. Sculpt Corpse! Mirror Polish! Poisoned Egg! Have fun playing a sorc with spells like those :smalltongue: