Help me Build My Favorite Member of the Sapphire Guard: O'Chul

[Molan]

Ok guys, I know the SG are like, "soooo three books ago, but I absolutely love the concept and of the Order O'Chul is hands down my favorite character (ahead the chick with the Spear).

So, "questions" I have for the GITP theorycraft community are:

1. What level?
2. Class mix?
3. Feats?
4. Skills?
5. Ability Scores?
6. Special Equipment? (Pre-captivity)
7. Any changes or flaws? (Post-Captivity?)
8. What's his sword made of? (Noticed it was a different color then the rest of the SG blades)

Would guarantee this has already been done but I just had to post ;-)

[AvatarVecna]

Here's the stuff determined by the mechanical analyis thread. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18643435&postcount=4)

[Molan]

Here's the stuff determined by the mechanical analyis thread. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=18643435&postcount=4)

Hmmm, that link isn't working for me for some reason.

Any other ideas on how to find the thread?

[Jasdoif]

Hmmm, that link isn't working for me for some reason.

Any other ideas on how to find the thread?Try this (or not using the mobile forum skin; some single-post links don't work properly with that skin).

[Reboot]

Hmmm, that link isn't working for me for some reason.

Any other ideas on how to find the thread?

Works for me.....


http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/O-Chul.png O-Chul
Lawful Good, Human male, Fighter / Paladin (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html) 3+ (has Aura of Courage (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html)), total level 12+ (higher than Hinjo (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0671.html)).
Str 11+ (can carry Vaarsuvius (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html)).
Con ~25 (WXP).
Cha <10 (dump stat (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html)).
Age: 29+ (fighter for twelve years (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html)).
Skills: Bluff 0 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html), Diplomacy 2+ (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=19163226&postcount=74) (forum), Spellcraft (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0670.html), Swim (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0542.html).

[Molan]

I was just about to paste that in, second link worked lol.

Anyway. I agree with most of the assessment, but I'm wondering if he might have higher Wis (14?) based on a lot of the dialogue and decision making he's exhibited.

Additionally, why is his katana black and the others aren't? (Adamantine?)

Since his extreme, constant torturing and his new multitude of permanent scars, one wonders if he hasn't possibly gotten experience or leveled from his trials (even if it was off screen?)

Further, you've got to wonder if, as his "player" one wouldn't have taken some extra feat or flaw to articulate his toughness having gone through it all. Like Deep Scar or ...well...Toughness, lol.

Just thoughts.

[ti'esar]

The Class and Level Geekery Thread doesn't do speculation, so everything there is what's definitely known about O-Chul's stats from the comic. If you're trying to build a playable version of him, obviously you can add more details.

[Molan]

I think that's what I was getting at lol

[Crusher]

I was just about to paste that in, second link worked lol.

Anyway. I agree with most of the assessment, but I'm wondering if he might have higher Wis (14?) based on a lot of the dialogue and decision making he's exhibited.

Additionally, why is his katana black and the others aren't? (Adamantine?)

Since his extreme, constant torturing and his new multitude of permanent scars, one wonders if he hasn't possibly gotten experience or leveled from his trials (even if it was off screen?)

Further, you've got to wonder if, as his "player" one wouldn't have taken some extra feat or flaw to articulate his toughness having gone through it all. Like Deep Scar or ...well...Toughness, lol.

Just thoughts.

What version are you working with?

My vision is something like:

Fighter 8/Paladin 4

STR 18
DEX 12
CON 26
INT 10
WIS 12
CHR 8

Add in whatever combat feats you feel are appropriate (iirc we've only ever seen him fighting armed 2h with his katana, but there isn't much evidence so you can go wherever you want with him) and then tack on Toughness. After that we have minimal evidence so you can put the rest of his feats into whatever you like. If you run out of ideas before you run out of feats, put the rest into extra Toughness picks.

[grandpheonix]

What version are you working with?

My vision is something like:

Fighter 8/Paladin 4

STR 18
DEX 12
CON 26
INT 10
WIS 12
CHR 8

Add in whatever combat feats you feel are appropriate (iirc we've only ever seen him fighting armed 2h with his katana, but there isn't much evidence so you can go wherever you want with him) and then tack on Toughness. After that we have minimal evidence so you can put the rest of his feats into whatever you like. If you run out of ideas before you run out of feats, put the rest into extra Toughness picks.

I would definately take feats that boost saves, as thats what saved his ass.

Secondly, wep focus katana.

Two levels fighter, three pali, 5 fighter 2 pally. Mix as wanted. Focus on str and con, cha is dump and dex is maybe 12 at highest.

[Myou]

What version are you working with?

My vision is something like:

Fighter 8/Paladin 4

STR 18
DEX 12
CON 26
INT 10
WIS 12
CHR 8

Add in whatever combat feats you feel are appropriate (iirc we've only ever seen him fighting armed 2h with his katana, but there isn't much evidence so you can go wherever you want with him) and then tack on Toughness. After that we have minimal evidence so you can put the rest of his feats into whatever you like. If you run out of ideas before you run out of feats, put the rest into extra Toughness picks.

How does he have 26 con? Are these his stats including magical items?

[Quild]

Since his extreme, constant torturing and his new multitude of permanent scars, one wonders if he hasn't possibly gotten experience or leveled from his trials (even if it was off screen?)

He definitely did.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/estelindis/hinjo.gif O-Chul and Lien managed to gain a few levels since we left Azure City (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0671.html)

Xykon also has a line saying that O-Chul earned his hit points the hard way in panel 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0657.html), but he's not specific about O-Chul latest HP.

[Lexible]

Add in whatever combat feats you feel are appropriate (iirc we've only ever seen him fighting armed 2h with his katana, but there isn't much evidence so you can go wherever you want with him) and then tack on Toughness. After that we have minimal evidence so you can put the rest of his feats into whatever you like. If you run out of ideas before you run out of feats, put the rest into extra Toughness picks.

In DStP Rich was explicit that O'Chul was built around defense: being so tough that his enemies shot their wad and wearied from trying to take him down. Hi build is predicated on patience.

So, the patience of a tank then. :)