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Grim Reader
2015-09-07, 02:09 PM
I was browsing the Pathfinder Srd, and noticed there is a Witch archetype that gets channel energy. I am not extensively familiar with Pathfinder, but I was wondering if there were ways to get...

Bardic Performance on a non-Bard ?

Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?

More than one favoured class bonus when levelling ?

Evolution points besides levelling, the feat that gives 1 extra point, and the half-elf favoured class bonus ?

An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?

A spell or spells that is not normally on your list ?

I am thinking of stuff like feats, archetypes, bloodlines, prcs, etc. Primarily Paizo, but I am also interested in third party. The total amount of material to wade through is just...massive.

Dusk Eclipse
2015-09-07, 02:15 PM
I'm pretty sure most of them easily archive able (specially with VMC), the problem would be trying to get everything at once on the same character.

Mehangel
2015-09-07, 02:21 PM
I'm pretty sure most of them easily archive able (specially with VMC), the problem would be trying to get everything at once on the same character.

Just to clarify, examples include:

VMC Bard: Trade out feats gained at levels 3, 7, 11, 15, & 19 for Bardic Knowledge, Bardic Performance, Versatile Performance, Loremaster, and Additional Performances in that order.

VMC Cleric: Trade out feats gained at levels 3, 7, 11, 15, & 19 for Domain, Channel, Improved Channel, Improved Domain, and Greater channel.

There is nearly a VMC for every class. so yeah.

Slithery D
2015-09-07, 02:21 PM
VMC options are here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement#TOC-Variant-Multiclassing).

Kurald Galain
2015-09-07, 02:32 PM
Bardic Performance on a non-Bard ?

Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?

An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?

Sure. Various archetypes let you do that.


A spell or spells that is not normally on your list ?
Yep, there's a guide for that. LMTGFY.

Grim Reader
2015-09-07, 03:05 PM
I'm pretty sure most of them easily archive able (specially with VMC)


VMC Bard, VMC Cleric...There is nearly a VMC for every class. so yeah.


VMC options are here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement#TOC-Variant-Multiclassing).

I see. VMC does seem to cover a lot of the possibilities here. Are there non-VMC options?


Sure. Various archetypes let you do that.


Yep, there's a guide for that. LMTGFY.

This one, I think? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?296803-Pathfinder-mini-guide-Casting-spells-from-other-lists) I didn't actually think to look for a guide before :(

Does anyone know ways of getting more than one favoured class bonus when levelling ? Is there any way of moving factored class bonuses around? Multi-talented mastery can make prcs favored classes, but there are no bonuses beyond the +1 hp/ skill.

Rainshine
2015-09-07, 04:45 PM
Half-elf Racial trait gives you Multitalented, allowing you to have two favored classes. Or are you meaning getting two bonuses (+1 HP AND +1 skill points) on each level?
There's a plethora of archetypes/class choices for Animal Companions. Wild Child Brawler, Mad Dog Barbarian, Animal domain cleric, Lunar Oracle with the right revelationn, etc.

gartius
2015-09-07, 05:09 PM
I was browsing the Pathfinder Srd, and noticed there is a Witch archetype that gets channel energy. I am not extensively familiar with Pathfinder, but I was wondering if there were ways to get...

Bardic Performance on a non-Bard ?

Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?

More than one favoured class bonus when levelling ?

Evolution points besides levelling, the feat that gives 1 extra point, and the half-elf favoured class bonus ?

An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?

A spell or spells that is not normally on your list ?

I am thinking of stuff like feats, archetypes, bloodlines, prcs, etc. Primarily Paizo, but I am also interested in third party. The total amount of material to wade through is just...massive.

Sensei monk, evangelist,

Life Oracle, Paladin, warpriest (yes its fevor but its the same thing), adept channel

half elf mutlitalented,

there is the spell that gains you bonus evolution points as well a feat that gives your animal companion 1 evolution points

nature oracle, animal domain cleric, beastmaster,

samsaran, spell sage

Baroncognito
2015-09-08, 11:28 PM
Only considering archetypes for classes that do not get the ability normally.
Answers given in Class: Archetype format, different archetypes separated by commas, different classes separated by line breaks. Some answers have been provided in this thread already and are only included for completeness.


Bardic Performance on a non-Bard ?
Brawler: Exemplar
Cleric: Evangelist
Medium: Storyteller
Monk: Sensei
Rogue: Carnivalist, Deadly Courtesan


Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?
Bard: Arcane Healer
Inquisitor: Cold Iron Warden
Oracle: Life Mystery (not really an archetype, but close enough)
Sorcerer: Wild Blooded (Empyreal Bloodline)
Shaman: Witch Doctor, Life Spirit (again, Life Spirit is not really an archetype)


An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?
Animal Companion
Alchemist: Construct Rider, Winged Marauder
Barbarian: Mad Dog, Mounted Fury, Shoanti Burn Rider
Bloodrager: Bloodrider
Brawler: Wildchild
Cleric: Not archetypes, but the following domains (and subdomains); Animal, Feather, Fur, Saurian, Scalykind, and Venom
Inquisitor: Sacred Huntmaster
Warpriest: Divine Commander

Familiar
Alchemist: Homunculist, Horticulturist
Bard: Duettist, Sea Singer
Cleric: Demonic Apostle, Fiendish Vessel
Druid: Leshy Warden
Fighter: Eldritch Guardian
Gunslinger: Buccaneer
Paladin: Chosen One
Rogue: Carnivalist
Sorcerer: Tattooed Sorcerer

grarrrg
2015-09-09, 12:49 AM
Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?

Linky (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=15428441&postcount=6)
(and for the record, the Witch Channeling option is pretty horrible, but frighteningly not the worst)


More than one favoured class bonus when levelling ?

Half-Elf can take Human Spirit (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/human-spirit-half-elf) and gets +1 Skill Rank (for four levels).
Humans can take Fast Learner (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/fast-learner-human), if you choose +HP or +Skill you get both. If you choose an Alternate Bonus, you only get the alternate.

Finding Haleen (http://www.archivesofnethys.com/TraitDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Finding%20Haleen) is a Campaign trait, comes with a LOT of built in story baggage, and was written before Alternate Favored Bonuses were invented, so winds up being open to interpretation.


Evolution points besides levelling, the feat that gives 1 extra point, and the half-elf favoured class bonus ?

Not really. Evolution Surge spell comes close. And there is the Wild Caller (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/half-elf/wild-caller-summoner-half-elf) (the ARG version, not the more recent one) archetype, but that bans a variety of useful Evolutions.


An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?

LOTS of archetypes.
Any class that can get a Domain can take Animal or Scalykind for a Companion.
Any class can take the Animal Ally (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/animal-ally) feat.

Do note that multiple Animal Companions automatically 'combine'. You need to take a specific archetype if you want multiples. Also note that an Animal Companion is NOT the same as a Mount, but they still sometimes stack (http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9qqn).



Also, feel free to peruse the Dipping Guide (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?230500-Pathfinder-Dipping-for-Fun-and-Profit-%28mostly-Profit%29)
The 3rd post may be the most helpful for your needs.

Baroncognito
2015-09-09, 03:03 AM
Linky (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=15428441&postcount=6)
(and for the record, the Witch Channeling option is pretty horrible, but frighteningly not the worst)

Is there an option worse than Sorcerer though?

Jack_Simth
2015-09-09, 05:35 AM
I was browsing the Pathfinder Srd, and noticed there is a Witch archetype that gets channel energy. I am not extensively familiar with Pathfinder, but I was wondering if there were ways to get...

Oracle is great for this...


Bardic Performance on a non-Bard ?

Variant Multiclassing Bard (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement#TOC-Core-Classes), as noted. Applies to any class.


Channel energy on a non-Cleric (and non-Witch) ?

A Spirit Guide Oracle (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/archetypes/paizo---oracle-archetypes/spirit-guide), selecting the Life Spirit (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/shaman/spirits/life) for the day, gains Channel Energy at 7th.


More than one favoured class bonus when levelling ?

The Finding Haleen / Finding your Kin (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/campaign-traits/legacy-of-fire/finding-haleen) campaign trait from Legacy of FIre.


Evolution points besides levelling, the feat that gives 1 extra point, and the half-elf favoured class bonus ?
Evolved Companion (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/evolved-companion) can add it to your animal companion.


An animal companion for a class that doesn't normally get one (aka Sacred Huntsmaster) ?

An Oracle with the Lunar Mystery (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/mysteries/paizo---oracle-mysteries/lunar-mystery) can select the "Primal Companion" revelation, which does just that. There's a few others that do it too.


A spell or spells that is not normally on your list ?

Oracle is great for this. Many curses and all mysteries come with bonus spells, not all of which are classed. The spirits for the Spirit Guide Oracle (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/archetypes/paizo---oracle-archetypes/spirit-guide) all come with a set of spells, again, not all of which are class. By some readings, the Lore Spirit's (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/shaman/spirits/lore) Arcane Enlightenment hex adds arbitrary Sor/Wiz spells to the list here.


I am thinking of stuff like feats, archetypes, bloodlines, prcs, etc. Primarily Paizo, but I am also interested in third party. The total amount of material to wade through is just...massive.
... so with a little work, you can get everything you list on one character, in the right campaign.

Edit:
Oh yes, and the third-party Feral (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/oracle-curses#TOC-Feral-3PP-) curse gets you the named ability Wildshape (which is important for things like taking Natural Spell), as well as the named ability Wild Empathy.

So one Oracle, using variant multiclassing, can have everything you asked for all at once to one degree or another, and then some.