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Xar Zarath
2015-09-10, 03:42 AM
Is it possible to create a ring of wizardry that combines all the spell levels? (Meaning wearing this one ring is equivalent to wearing all rings of wiz I-IX)

*I know there are rules for adding enchantments onto existing magical items like upgrading swords and stuff...but I wanna know if its rules legal to make this super wizard's ring

AvatarVecna
2015-09-10, 03:48 AM
I usually just use the "doesn't take up a slot" modifier, which doubles the cost of the item. So, it would be the cost of the most expensive ring (which takes up a slot) and double the cost of the other three rings. Under that assumption...360,000 gp. Of course, I think there's other ways of calculating this by RAW, but I'm not very familiar with them. I think...I think I recall seeing somebody mention something like that (a modifier for combining items) in the Magic Item Compendium.

ArkenBrony
2015-09-10, 03:54 AM
Multiple Similar Abilities
For items with multiple similar abilities that don’t take up space on a character’s body use the following formula: Calculate the price of the single most costly ability, then add 75% of the value of the next most costly ability, plus one-half the value of any other abilities.

Multiple Different Abilities
Abilities such as an attack roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not similar, and their values are simply added together to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on a character’s body each additional power not only has no discount but instead has a 50% increase in price.

this says it can't use a space on the characters body, so it's intended for scrolls, wands, staves, etc. but the next one is for different modifiers, my take'd be to use both, doing 75 then 50, and 50 then 50
so 100% of IX, 112.5% of VIII, and 75% of all the others, with the costs listed here


Price 20,000 gp (I), 40,000 gp (II), 70,000 gp (III), 100,000 gp (IV).

Market Price: 250,000 gp (epic wizardry V), 360,000 gp (epic wizardry VI), 490,000 gp (epic wizardry VII), 640,000 gp (epic wizardry VIII), 810,000 gp (epic wizardry IX).

to craft requires caster level 35, forge ring, forge epic ring, wish, and limited wish.

that gives us 810,000+720,000+367,500+270,000+187,500+75,000+52, 500+30,000+15,000
this gives us 2,527,500 gp. that would cost 1,263,750 gp and 35,275 xp

Segev
2015-09-10, 03:25 PM
Actually, the cost to add an item to an existing item is 1.5x the cost of the additional items. The "base" item is always the most expensive, so the Ring of Wizardry XI would be the "base" item, and you'd add 1.5x the cost of each Ring of Wizardry I-VIII you were adding to it.

This will be an epic item by cost alone, but is legal if you're allowing/able to make epic items.


Rings are typically 1.5x the cost of other slotted items, anyway; it's not explicitly listed in the item creation rules, but it's evident in some of the pricings of rings with easily-broken-down costs. You could argue for the "slotless" version of a ring thus costing only 1/3 more than normal, rather than 2x normal. (That is, 2x 75% of its cost.) If your DM doesn't go for that, you can still double the ring's price to make it slotless (custom Ioun Stones are a classy choice). Wear a Ring of Wizardry XI and a Ring of Wizardry VIII, then get slotless Ioun Stones of Wizardry I-VII; you don't have to stack them, then. This is more expensive than the combo-Ring, but most of those Ioun Stones won't be Epic.

Xar Zarath
2015-09-11, 04:50 AM
to craft requires caster level 35, forge ring, forge epic ring, wish, and limited wish.

...snip...
this gives us 2,527,500 gp. that would cost 1,263,750 gp and 35,275 xp

Emphasis mine...so this would be the cost to make a Ring of Wizardry that combines all I-IX? seems pretty cheap to me...

The 2mil gp figure is how much it would cost to purchase it??

ArkenBrony
2015-09-11, 07:16 AM
my math was double checked, and i used the prices directly from the books, so short of a conceptual problem, i should be right.

Segev
2015-09-11, 09:48 AM
Again, the way you calculate slot-consuming items combined together is to take the most expensive item's price, then add 1.5x of all the other items to go onto it. While it is under the "multiple different abilites" heading, it references "not only receives no discount," which makes no sense if you don't take into account the "multiple similar abilities" write-up. That's telling us that no discount is given, period, for an item that uses a slot getting others combined onto it.

So using these prices:


Price 20,000 gp (I), 40,000 gp (II), 70,000 gp (III), 100,000 gp (IV).

Market Price: 250,000 gp (epic wizardry V), 360,000 gp (epic wizardry VI), 490,000 gp (epic wizardry VII), 640,000 gp (epic wizardry VIII), 810,000 gp (epic wizardry IX).

...it would be 810,000 + 960,000 + 735,000 + 540,000 + 375,000 + 150,000 + 105,000 + 60,000 + 30,000 = 2,955,000 gp.

Fortunately, since it incorporates epic items already, the epic item surcharge is already in there; it's not still MORE expensive.

On the other hand, if you made a slotless item of it...

1,620,000 + 960,000 + 490,000 + 360,000 + 250,000 + 100,000 + 70,000 + 40,000 + 20,000 = 3,910,000 gp. Which is less than a million more gp, oddly enough. Still, the ring is a better deal.