[Just for fun] The Yo Dawg Thread: same name, different thing, can get both.

[Saintheart]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/000/177/800px-Sup_dawg.jpg

This came up out of a tangential conversation in another thread, but I thought it might serve as something to pass the time while we wait for the next Monk thread to raise its head. D&D 3.5 is a huge system, one so large that sometimes things got duplicated without anyone noticing. And sometimes these things can be put together on a character for Hilarious Results.

For example, it's possible to build a Beguiler (Shining South) Beguiler (PHB 2).

Or the fact you can obtain a Planar Familiar upon which you can cast the spell Planar Familiar (https://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/sb/sb20011020a).

What other duplications like this are out there, for fun and profit? :smallsmile:

[Inevitability]

A Wild Cohort can take the Wild Cohort feat to get a Wild Cohort itself.

[Novawurmson]

You can be a Helpful (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/combat-traits/helpful-combat) Helpful (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/race-traits/helpful) halfling in Pathfinder. They're a combat trait and a race trait, so you can take them both (though they don't seem to stack).

You could wield a +1 dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/dueling) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/psionic-weapons#TOC-Dueling) dueling sword (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sword-dueling).

[Chronos]

An underfolk (Races of Destiny) ranger can get both camouflage and camouflage, which actually do complementary things and would work well together.

A chameleon (prestige class, RoD) who started as a psion might know the power Chameleon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/chameleon.htm), and thus be one of the few individuals with both an enhancement bonus to a skill and a competence bonus to an ability score.

[Novawurmson]

The base PF Warpriest cannot take the feat Warrior Priest (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/warrior-priest) (though nobody really should take it to begin with).

A PF Brawler can multiclass Brawler (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/brawler) Fighter. He can then go into Barbarian to pick up the Brawler and Greater Brawler rage powers (not that he'd generally want to).

A PF Swashbuckler can multiclass Swashbuckler Rogue.

A PF Barbarian 1/Ranger 1/Paladin 1/Fighter 1/Inquisitor 1/Slayer 1/Dread 1/Hunter 1/Rogue 10 could end up as a Primal Hunter Wild Hunter Divine Hunter Vampire Hunter Vengeful Hunter Bounty Hunter Shadow Hunter Verminous Hunter Hunter with Hunter's Surprise (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo---rogue-advanced-talents/hunter-s-surprise-ex).

[Dondasch]

You could wield a +1 dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/dueling) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/psionic-weapons#TOC-Dueling) dueling sword (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sword-dueling).

Better yet, you can have a dueling (http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Dueling%20%28PSF G%29) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/dueling) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/psionic-weapons#TOC-Dueling) dueling sword (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sword-dueling).

[Novawurmson]

Better yet, you can have a dueling (http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Dueling%20%28PSF G%29) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/dueling) dueling (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/equipment/psionic-items/psionic-weapons#TOC-Dueling) dueling sword (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sword-dueling).

It's actually the same one as the next to last "dueling." :smalltongue:

[Dondasch]

It's actually the same one as the next to last "dueling." :smalltongue:

The next to last dueling is psionic, and the one I added is magical. They have the same effect, but you could have both on the same weapon.

[Eldan]

An underfolk (Races of Destiny) ranger can get both camouflage and camouflage, which actually do complementary things and would work well together.

A chameleon (prestige class, RoD) who started as a psion might know the power Chameleon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/chameleon.htm), and thus be one of the few individuals with both an enhancement bonus to a skill and a competence bonus to an ability score.

I also vaguely remember a chameleon (or chameleonic) template from somewhere. It's LA +1 and gives a huge hide bonus, IIRC.

[Grod_The_Giant]

I also vaguely remember a chameleon (or chameleonic) template from somewhere. It's LA +1 and gives a huge hide bonus, IIRC.
Pssh. We can do better.

Use the Anthropomorphic template in Savage Species to play as a chameleon.
Add the Chameleon template (from Underdark, apparently)
Take psion levels and learn Chameleon
Take Chameleon levels
Use Arcane Focus to cast Chameleon (stacks with the psionic power!)
Take the Chameleon Hide feat
Wear a Ring of Chameleon Power


You're a Chameleon Chameleon Chameleon with a Chameleon Hide, casting Chameleon and Chameleon while wearing a ring of Chameleon. And the word has officially lost any meaning.

[Divayth Fyr]

Pssh. We can do better.

Why not also wear a Psychoactive Skin of the Chameleon?
Chama-Chama-Chama-Chama-Chama-Chameleon

[ben-zayb]

Arctic (template) Arctic (racial variant) Human (race) with Human subtype, and both Cold Endurance (feat) and Cold Endurance (Arctic variant general trait)

[darksolitaire]

Warmage War Wizard War Mage is actually pretty decent blaster.

[gorfnab]

Beguiler (Shining South) Beguilers (PHBII) can be fairly decent. You could take a level of Warlock for Beguiling Influence. Then you would have a Beguiling Beguiler Beguiler.

[YossarianLives]

Warmage War Wizard War Mage is actually pretty decent blaster.
Make sure to play Warforged!

[Saintheart]

This might not be exactly RAW-legal, but you could have a Ghost from the Ghostwalk campaign setting to which the Ghost template is then applied, which PrCs into Ghost Faced Killer. Thus giving you a Ghost Ghost Ghost Faced Killer.

[Jormengand]

You can be a Paragon half-elf human paragon/elf paragon, and if PF content is allowed you can cast Paragon Surge.

You can also be a dragon half-dragon dragonborn meaning that you become a dragon dragonblood.

You can undergo the rite of rebirth, reincarnation and the ritual of renaming.

Of course, you can stack the same template more than once, so you can do even more silly stuff.

[Nifft]

If you take the Shadow Creature template and use the Shadow Form power or spell, you can be a Shadow Shadow.

[WhamBamSam]

A favorite of mine is a Blink Dog (or someone Wild Shaping*, Polymorphing, or Alter Selfing** with Assume Supernatural Ability or Metamorphic Transfer) into a Blink Dog with 2 levels of Totemist for the Blink Shirt Totem bind. "Yo dawg I heard you like Blink Dogs so I bound the spirit of a Blink Dog to your Blink Dog so you can Blink Dog while you Blink Dog dawg."

It's actually a pretty good setup for a Shadow Pouncer, since it covers your move action teleport and gives you a 1/round free action teleport.

*Exalted Wild Shape covers this, but unfortunately good alignments aren't compatible with the Shadow Pounce PrCs.

**It's inordinately hard to get the Magical Beast type. The Beguiler (of Beguiler Beguiler fame) would be a great race, but it's LA+0 (Cohort) instead of just LA+0. The Abrian (Fiend Folio) is a 2 RHD/1 LA magical beast, but its kinda crappy.

[Sayt]

In 3.pf you can play a cavalier 10/Cavalier 10

In Pathfinder, you can can be a Dervish Dancer with the Dervish Dance Feat, or a Dervish of the Dawn with the Dervish Dance Feat

[torrasque666]

You can be a Paragon half-elf human paragon/elf paragon.

False. IIRC the rules for the half blood paragon classes say that while a half human can take either class it can only take one, not both paragon classes. And that they have to take the first level of their paragon class before they can do that.

[Curmudgeon]

A non-Good, non-Lawful character can start as a Mountebank (Dragon Compendium, pages 42-45) and PrC into a Mountebank (Complete Scoundrel, pages 57-60).

[Mr Adventurer]

With the right mix of sourcebooks you can be a Gnome Artificer Gnome Artificer.

[Troacctid]

A Master of Shadow (ToM) can take Master of Shadow (DrU).

[Eldan]

Shadow shadow weave shadowcaster shadowmage?

[Inevitability]

Shadow shadow weave shadowcaster shadowmage?

Fun facts: the shadow template can be applied to the shadow monster.

[Mr Adventurer]

You can multiclass to become a Warforged Warmage War Mage Warlock Warblade War Mind. I wouldn't recommend it; might be best to stop at Warforged Warmage War Mage.

Edit: War forgedmagemagelockblademind?

[Troacctid]

You can multiclass to become a Warforged Warmage War Mage Warlock Warblade War Mind. I wouldn't recommend it; might be best to stop at Warforged Warmage War Mage.

Edit: War forgedmagemagelockblademind?

Warforged Warblade War Mind is actually a legit good build.

[SwordChucks]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the anthropomorphic bear/werebear/bear totem barbarian/bear warrior/druid in bear wildshape with a bear animal companion and a bear wild cohort.

For the most fun: choose different kinds of bears for each instance of bear and have your enemies meet a grizzly end.

[daremetoidareyo]

A non-Good, non-Lawful character can start as a Mountebank (Dragon Compendium, pages 42-45) and PrC into a Mountebank (Complete Scoundrel, pages 57-60).

And theoretically your levels of mountebank stack with your levels of mountebank for beguiling stare and infernal patron stuff due to the seemingly rampant use of the word mountebank in the ability descriptions.

[Chronos]

One that just came up in another thread is that Battle Dancer is both a base class (Dragon Magazine) and feat (PHB2), though the one can't qualify for the other without a bard dip or similar tricks.

[flamewolf393]

A shifter shifter shifter shifter swarm-shifter.

Race, template, class, prestige class, template.

[Curmudgeon]

And theoretically your levels of mountebank stack with your levels of mountebank for beguiling stare and infernal patron stuff due to the seemingly rampant use of the word mountebank in the ability descriptions.
Most Mountebank (base class) abilities are a function of Mountebank levels. You continue to gain Deceptive Attack with further Mountebank levels, even if those are Mountebank PrC levels.
This extra damage is 1d6 at 2nd level, and it increases by 1d6 every four mountebank levels thereafter. A Mountebank 10/Mountebank 10 will not only get 20th level Mountebank Beguiling Stare and Infernal Patron abilities, but also +5d6 Deceptive Attack and +3d6 sneak attack.

[Doughnut Master]

Add a Cape of the Mountebank to your Mountebank Mountebank.

Also, this seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG62zay3kck


Makes me wonder what this game is like in German....

[Troacctid]

Add a Cape of the Mountebank to your Mountebank Mountebank.

I don't know if it counts if they did it on purpose.

[Gabrosin]

A PF Barbarian 1/Ranger 1/Paladin 1/Fighter 1/Inquisitor 1/Slayer 1/Dread 1/Hunter 1/Rogue 10 could end up as a Primal Hunter Wild Hunter Divine Hunter Vampire Hunter Vengeful Hunter Bounty Hunter Shadow Hunter Verminous Hunter Hunter with Hunter's Surprise (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo---rogue-advanced-talents/hunter-s-surprise-ex).

This one is my favorite so far.

If I'm not mistaken, you can be a Forest Gnome Fist of the Forest Forest Reeve Forest Master with the Forester and Forest Gnome Phantasist feats.

[Alex12]

Pathfinder Dreamscarred Press stuff, you can be a Warder/Aegis and be an Aegis with aegis.

[Abithrios]

Pathfinder Dreamscarred Press stuff, you can be a Warder/Aegis and be an Aegis with aegis.

Dip Spheres of Power to cast an aegis.

[Vhaidara]

Combining dragon mag with races of destiny you can be a half ogre half ogre, since one is a template and the other is a race.

Oh, and then there's half red dragon half red dragon red dragon.

[ComaVision]

Combining dragon mag with races of destiny you can be a half ogre half ogre, since one is a template and the other is a race.

Oh, and then there's half red dragon half red dragon red dragon.

In that vein:
Half-Minotaur Minotaur
Half-Troll Troll (and then take a level of Barbarian for the Ice Troll Berserker feat)

and I'm sure there are very many other half templates that can be applied to the parent creature.

[Flickerdart]

You can have a Half-Celestial Celestial Celestial Mystic channeling a Celestial speaking Celestial to a Celestial with the Celestial domain.

[Enran]

You can have a Half-Celestial Celestial Celestial Mystic channeling a Celestial speaking Celestial to a Celestial with the Celestial domain.
Holy holiness, Batman!

[Vhaidara]

In that vein:
Half-Minotaur Minotaur
Half-Troll Troll (and then take a level of Barbarian for the Ice Troll Berserker feat)

and I'm sure there are very many other half templates that can be applied to the parent creature.

Ah, but I didn't apply it to the parent race for the half ogre. I applied it to its own half race.

Then I did it twice for the dragon.

[legomaster00156]

Combining dragon mag with races of destiny you can be a half ogre half ogre, since one is a template and the other is a race.

Oh, and then there's half red dragon half red dragon red dragon.
"chief grukgruk half orc too. other half also orc." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0555.html)