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Masakan
2015-09-15, 03:10 PM
While using a one handed weapon, technically be considered a Sword and Boarder?

OldTrees1
2015-09-15, 03:25 PM
Depends on the context of the question.

As a random guess at an answer to the unknown context:
"Technically yes, but contextually no."

Kelb_Panthera
2015-09-15, 03:27 PM
While using a one handed weapon, technically be considered a Sword and Boarder?

No. The result of a shield spell is only superficially resemblant to using an actual shield. You can't bash with it, you can't apply most feats that apply to an actual shield, and you certainly can't place shield-only enhancements on it.

Your either a two-hander, a TWF'er, or an einhander with a shield bonus.

Masakan
2015-09-15, 03:27 PM
Depends on the context of the question.

As a random guess at an answer to the unknown context:
"Technically yes, but contextually no."

The context is effectively are you a caster gish, say abjurant champion and like to cast shield before every big fight, and for some weird ass reason insist on fighting with a one handed weapon either because you don't like the feel of 2 handed weapons or your stats are made so you wouldn't get a benefit out of 2 handed fighting anyway.


No. The result of a shield spell is only superficially resemblant to using an actual shield. You can't bash with it, you can't apply most feats that apply to an actual shield, and you certainly can't place shield-only enhancements on it.

Your either a two-hander, a TWF'er, or an einhander with a shield bonus.

Curses.

KillianHawkeye
2015-09-15, 05:36 PM
The real answer is that you're using the shield spell to increase your AC while wielding a one-handed weapon so that you still have your other hand free grab scrolls and material components, or to make somatic gestures for spellcasting.

Masakan
2015-09-15, 05:41 PM
The real answer is that you're using the shield spell to increase your AC while wielding a one-handed weapon so that you still have your other hand free grab scrolls and material components, or to make somatic gestures for spellcasting.
Yeah pretty much.

Necroticplague
2015-09-15, 07:09 PM
not Really. Sword and Board implies more than merely having a shield bonus while using a one handed weapon. It also implies that the shield itself has been invested in in other parts of the character's build: I.E, shield bash, shield warding, ect. Since the spell isn't an actual shield, such support typically does not work with it. You're not a sword and boarder. You're just a gish who had some questionable build choices (using a non-upgradeable shield spell instead of an enchantable animated shield, using a one-handed weapon when one could easily use a two handed weapon).

Tiri
2015-09-16, 07:44 AM
The real answer is that you're using the shield spell to increase your AC while wielding a one-handed weapon so that you still have your other hand free grab scrolls and material components, or to make somatic gestures for spellcasting.

You could do that with a two-handed weapon too. Just take one hand off it, since you wouldn't be using the weapon anyway if you were casting a spell.

Chronos
2015-09-16, 08:14 AM
What do you mean by "technically"? That suggests that you're referring to some nitpicky rules definition of "sword and board", and I don't think there is any.

Nifft
2015-09-16, 08:42 AM
I do like the idea of a character who can bash with his shield spell.

But I don't see any way for that character to happen in the rules.

Mr Adventurer
2015-09-16, 09:01 AM
While using a one handed weapon, technically be considered a Sword and Boarder?

What do you mean?

Flickerdart
2015-09-16, 10:41 AM
You can use your other hand to flip your enemies the bird, which saves you the paint you would need to paint a giant middle finger on your shield.

Telonius
2015-09-16, 10:56 AM
Using the Shield spell also means you lose out on one of the minor benefits of using an actual shield: the ability to mix and match magical enhancements between your shield and armor. A +1 Light Fortification Invulnerability Spell Resistance (13) breastplate* would clock in around 49,350gp. If you split that up between a +1 Invulnerability Breastplate and a +1 Spell Resistance (13) Light Fortification Shield, it would only be 32,500-ish (depending on the shield) gp - and give you a better total AC.

* - Not that you'd actually buy one with those specific enchantments; just for example.

Kelb_Panthera
2015-09-16, 03:03 PM
What do you mean by "technically"? That suggests that you're referring to some nitpicky rules definition of "sword and board", and I don't think there is any.

It's not a technical rules thing, just the way english works in common usage.

Sword and board colloquially refers to a warrior who uses a sword and shield. In this game it's a given that a character will invest character resources in their combat style of choice. Since you can't sink more resources into a shield spell than a spell known on being able to cast it, you can't really say that it's enough of a focus for the character to be an identifying feature of the character.

If you ask a hundred people if that would count as sword and board (and the OP has, in effect, done so) I'd hazard that the majority of them will say "no" with varying degrees of emphasis.