Building a Mystic Theurge that follows Nethys

[Azoth]

Okay, so for a backup character in a friend's game I have decided to tackle the mental hurdle of building a Mystic Theurge in Pathfinder. To make it more fun, he will worship Nethys. Mechincally, I know I do not want spontaneous casters, so I have to bite the MAD bullet.

Relevant bits and bobs for the game:
Starting lvl 10
25pb for stats
Any first Party SRD material is fair game

DM has ruled that I can early entry into Mystic Theurge starting at lvl4.

DM has ruled to allow continued dual progression beyond the 10lvls of Mystic Theurge if I advance it with Evangelist. I get no other class features or benefit from it, but my casting will still advance.

I still get 2 free spells per level on Wizard side.

The main build I am aiming at is Wizard2/Cleric1/Mystic Theurge2/Evangelist10/Mystic Theurge+5.

Aside the skeleton of class levels I am drawing a blank. Which Domains, Arcane School, and Archetypes would work best with this.

Personality wise, I see the character as one who disregards the merit of doing things without magic. This means purely mundane people are second class to him. His main goal is to gain as much magical knowledge as possible. He has the arrogance to think that he can attain the omniscience of Nethys without losing his mind in the process, and surpass him in magical prowess.

[Eox]

Reveal Weakness, the main ability of the Void school, is based on Caster Level rather than Wizard Level. It's not a bad school overall either, nice bonus spells and a somewhat rare bonus to saves vs all spells.

[Spore]

Divine Subdomain: Every time a divine spell hits you, you grant all your allies a bonus on rolls which is significant throughout much of your career. Plus you can get to say "Wallow in my divine aura as its magic helps your feeble minds to fulfill your goals!"

Memory Subdomain: You tap into the divine teachings about something and retry a Knowledge check.

Wizard could be a Spell Sage (allowing you do cast a druid, bard or cleric spell with your wizard spell slots 1/day). Trading in the Arcane Bond is hefty but I dislike managing the Familiar anyhow. Also you can add +4 to your caster level once per day.

Or you go Exploiter Wizard giving you access to Arcanist exploits (the See Magic Exploit is great for people who desparately want to know magic properties. Cast this with Identify and have your Spellcraft check be somewhere near 30 at first level.

[Azoth]

I was strongly considering the Magic (Divine) sub domain, and maybe going seperatist on the cleric side to pick up Void (Isolation) Domain since its abilities aren't based on Cleric Level. I had originally wanted the Madness domain with Separatist, but the ability sucks without invested Cleric levels.

Maybe even go Divine Strategist, sacrificing my second Domain and Channel Energy so that I can always act in the surprise round. It seems like a rather strong ability, and can allow me to get the group off the back foot in case of an ambush.

I had looked into Exploiter Wizard, but wasn't sure if giving up the bonded object was worth it for any of the exploits, even if I could get more with a feat.

Void School seems very fitting, and is overall better than Universalist. It will also be nice to play a Wizard who isn't either an Evoker or Conjuration (Teleportation) specialist. Any suggestions for least painful elemental school to lose? Maybe one whose spells appear on the cleric list as well, so I can cheat my way into casting them without sacrificing 2 spell slots.

*edit* Maybe instead of Void School, go Diviner (Foresight) School so I can bank a D20 a few times per day and can keep my second Domain as a Cleric since it also gives an always go in the surprise round ability?

[Spore]

Maybe even go Divine Strategist, sacrificing my second Domain and Channel Energy so that I can always act in the surprise round. It seems like a rather strong ability, and can allow me to get the group off the back foot in case of an ambush.

This a good option since a decent ambush can severely cramp your style.


I had looked into Exploiter Wizard, but wasn't sure if giving up the bonded object was worth it for any of the exploits, even if I could get more with a feat.

I honestly didn't even consider the fact of the bonded object. In my humble opinion the chance to loose your arcane spellcasting is weird. Also if you want to ascent to godhood start thinking like one. Who would think someone is a great source of magical power if a stolen doodad weakens you so considerably?


Void School seems very fitting, and is overall better than Universalist. It will also be nice to play a Wizard who isn't either an Evoker or Conjuration (Teleportation) specialist. Any suggestions for least painful elemental school to lose? Maybe one whose spells appear on the cleric list as well, so I can cheat my way into casting them without sacrificing 2 spell slots.

*edit* Maybe instead of Void School, go Diviner (Foresight) School so I can bank a D20 a few times per day and can keep my second Domain as a Cleric since it also gives an always go in the surprise round ability?

Both are mechanically good options but I cannot see someone trying to convince others that he is the ULTIMATE spellcaster while struggling to cast Fire/Water/Enchantment/Abjuration spells.

[Azoth]

Okay, if you were trying to basically usurp the God of Magic, which exploits would be worth losing your familiar/bound object?

[Spore]

Okay, if you were trying to basically usurp the God of Magic, which exploits would be worth losing your familiar/bound object?

Dimensional Slide (never ever prep Dimension Door again!), Quick Study (Holy flexibility, Batman!), School Understanding (why choose one school when you can have all?), See Magic (it is not necessary but I like it, also this additional info makes fighting enemies with magical items and looting much much easier).

[Eox]

The Wood elemental school is a pretty popular choice for an opposition school.