Max Caysey
2015-09-20, 07:12 PM
So we have begun a new campaign, where I play a rogue, and so, am trying to get my head around all the details about hiding, since I play a cat burglar.
In that regard, I have a couple of questions, that I hope this forum will help me answer.
1. It says that: "You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty." Is it correct, that I can walk into an open well lit area, and still remain hidden? (meaning enemies still have to succeed a spot check to see me). The reason fo me asking is because of what it says in the Rules Compendium:
"Move between Cover: If you’re already hiding thanks to cover or concealment, and you have at least 5 ranks in Hide, you can make a Hide check (with a penalty) to try to move across an area that doesn’t offer cover or concealment without revealing yourself. For every 5 ranks in Hide you possess, you can move up to 5 feet between one hiding place and another. For every 5 feet of open space you must cross between hiding places, you take a –5 penalty on your Hide check. Movement speed penalizes the check as normal."
And this:
"Sneak up from Hiding: You can sneak up on someone after emerging from a hiding place. For every 5 feet of open space between you and the target, you take a –5 penalty on your Hide check. If your Hide check succeeds, your target doesn’t notice you until you attack or perform some other attention-grabbing action. Such a target is treated as being flat-footed with respect to you." (Personally I though that the skill was meant for just this, and therefore fail to see why this gets mentioned)
I had always imagined, that you had to initiate the hiding behind some sort of cover, and then could feel free to leave that cover and still remain unseen... why else put in the movement speed clause? It was not the case, as it would seem in the RC, then I would assume the HIde skill not to say you can remain hidden by moving slowly, but if you move out of cover, you become visible. When I read the Rules Compendium I got confused. Therefore I hope that someone here, can explain how the skill works.
In that regard, I have a couple of questions, that I hope this forum will help me answer.
1. It says that: "You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty." Is it correct, that I can walk into an open well lit area, and still remain hidden? (meaning enemies still have to succeed a spot check to see me). The reason fo me asking is because of what it says in the Rules Compendium:
"Move between Cover: If you’re already hiding thanks to cover or concealment, and you have at least 5 ranks in Hide, you can make a Hide check (with a penalty) to try to move across an area that doesn’t offer cover or concealment without revealing yourself. For every 5 ranks in Hide you possess, you can move up to 5 feet between one hiding place and another. For every 5 feet of open space you must cross between hiding places, you take a –5 penalty on your Hide check. Movement speed penalizes the check as normal."
And this:
"Sneak up from Hiding: You can sneak up on someone after emerging from a hiding place. For every 5 feet of open space between you and the target, you take a –5 penalty on your Hide check. If your Hide check succeeds, your target doesn’t notice you until you attack or perform some other attention-grabbing action. Such a target is treated as being flat-footed with respect to you." (Personally I though that the skill was meant for just this, and therefore fail to see why this gets mentioned)
I had always imagined, that you had to initiate the hiding behind some sort of cover, and then could feel free to leave that cover and still remain unseen... why else put in the movement speed clause? It was not the case, as it would seem in the RC, then I would assume the HIde skill not to say you can remain hidden by moving slowly, but if you move out of cover, you become visible. When I read the Rules Compendium I got confused. Therefore I hope that someone here, can explain how the skill works.