View Full Version : Ménage à 3 V: YAOI SENSE TINGLING
Wraith
2015-09-28, 01:18 AM
In this thread, we discuss the happenings in the webcomic Ménage à 3 (http://www.menagea3.net) (first page here (http://www.menagea3.net/strips-ma3/room_for_two_more_%28vol1%29)).
Currently, the hopeless geek has become the world's most sexually incredible lothario with two at least three something like five incredibly hot girls girls, boys and 'girls and boys' lusting for him, while the busty french girl spent months looking for just one half-decent lay.
We also had a guy who can wear sunglasses indoors and not be a total douche bag. Subverting genre expectations since 2008!
Menage a 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144966)
Ménage à 3 II: Zii's 'Z' Top - Sharp Dressed Girl (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11959371)
Ménage à 3 III: 47 Seconds Later (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13014841#post13014841)
Ménage à 3 IV: It's All Coming To A Head (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?280720-M%E9nage-%E0-3-IV-It-s-All-Coming-to-a-Head)
We also tend to discuss Mà3's sister comics, Sticky Dilly Buns (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/likes_and_dislikes) and Sandra On The Rocks (http://www.sandraontherocks.com/strips-sotr/you_are_not_cut_out_for_modeling), as well as works by the same author such as Eerie Cuties (http://www.eeriecuties.com/strips-ec/princess_darkness_-_chapter_11), MagicChicks (http://www.magickchicks.com/strips-mc/outlandish_charm) and Dangerously Chloe (http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips-dc/what_better_way).
.....Giz is, if nothing else, dedicated to her craft. :smalltongue:
But anyways, be warned: Each of these works (and Mà3 especially) contain some gently (but firmly) NSFW images and themes. If you're not allowed to read pictures of naked gay, straight and bisexual men and women all having sex with each other, or going in to details about why they aren't, then look away now.
There's no swearing though, so that's alright. :smallsmile:
Discus-Spinner
2015-09-28, 04:23 AM
How exactly would you classify Yuki and Sonya?...
Zii is careless, but those two at least didn't make their flaky stalker tendencies blatant before she goinked them. Izzy just screams "bad news", even by Zii's standards.
Wraith
2015-09-28, 12:34 PM
Arguably it's BECAUSE of Yuki and Sonya that Zii is wary of Izzy.
As far as we know, Zii has only ever been in two relationships that lasted longer than a couple of booty calls. One was Yuki, who became the psycho-stalker that we all know and love, and the other was Eric which ended badly and left Zii embarrassed. She's in no rush to repeat either mistake, and hooking up with Izzy looks like it might end up being a long term thing if only because of the latter's inability to take a hint even when dropped from a great height.
Then Sonya's clingy obsession seems to have ruined Zii's good luck in her "love 'em and leave 'em" one night stands, as not only could she not get rid of the damn girl but she was the direct cause of Sonya and Jacob's relationship breaking down. She now has some first hand experience at what her carelessness can do, and doesn't seem as carefree about it as she used to.
Poor Zii, so alone and emotionally broken that she might never love... or 'love'.... again. Bet you never thought you'd see someone say that about her, right? :smalltongue:
Discus-Spinner
2015-09-29, 03:23 AM
We only know about those two longer-term relationships in Zii's past,* but a lot of that past is unknown to the readers. I personally think that the best explanation for her whole behaviour pattern at the start of the comic involves a fairly serious relationship in her late teens that went sour when the other person dumped her very hard. (So she decided to get the loving-and-leaving thing in first in future.) No proof, but it fits so well.
Which said, yeah, she may have learned a lesson or two these last few months. Still, I don't see her deciding to avoid Izzy as requiring much new wisdom. Whereas Yuki started out looking like an interesting ****buddy, and Sonya as a really hot fling, before they both turned out to be terribly clingy, Izzy's behaviour just screams "scary nutjob" from out of the box. Zii would have to be completely drowning in hormones to miss that. If she had real sense, she'd be working out how to avoid Izzy altogether by now.
*Actually, we could also add Amber, with whom she apparently spent hours locked in her room back in their teens, and who has more recently received multiple booty calls. It may never have been a "serious" relationship, but it endured for a while, twice.
Eh, I don't like the idea that to be... well, like Zii it means someone must have hurt you badly. There are many reasons to have an easy going attitude toward commitment.
Well, Zii seems to be enjoying herself for now, I guess we'll get back to the crazy stalker plot later.
I can't exactly say why but I dislike the "all lesbians have the hots for Sandra" plotlibe. It was cute with Cammie but now...
Also: I know I'm terrible at reading women but... what is Chloe's issue suddenly? :smallconfused:
Discus-Spinner
2015-09-30, 05:56 AM
Eh, I don't like the idea that to be... well, like Zii it means someone must have hurt you badly. There are many reasons to have an easy going attitude toward commitment.
But Zii's attitude isn't just easygoing; she seemed downright scared, until Erik got past her guard. I dunno; there just seem to be a lot of tiny hints in her dialogue that there's something like that buried in her past.
Also: I know I'm terrible at reading women but... what is Chloe's issue suddenly?
Teenage romantic jealousy, compounded by the facts that she's (a) a demon, (b) an idiot, and (c) a cartoon character.
Chromascope3D
2015-10-02, 08:48 AM
I can't exactly say why but I dislike the "all lesbians have the hots for Sandra" plotlibe. It was cute with Cammie but now...
I think it's just supposed to be mirroring Gary's plotline, since they are both technically main protagonists. Unrelated, Gary and Sandra, have still had the most chemistry with each other than with any of their other ships so far, but what're ya gonna do?
I know DiDi was always on the... dim side, but good grief.
The Glyphstone
2015-10-24, 08:22 PM
All that blood has to go somewhere, and it's not to her head.
SaintRidley
2015-10-24, 10:44 PM
Didi buys into kayfabe, and it's kind of adorable.
Well, DiDi is by far not the only person who thinks wrestling is real...
I feel it's been a while since DiDi's breasts got that much attention, too. Maybe the rest of the cast is just as desentizied as the readers by now. (boing)
Also: not sure if Ruby is a great or a terrible assistant.
Discus-Spinner
2015-10-27, 02:26 PM
Great assistant, tiny bit childish about her personal grudges.
The Glyphstone
2015-10-31, 12:09 PM
Worst fan ever, DiDi.
Worst fan ever, DiDi.
Aw, come on. I'm sure she meant well. At least she's not one of the crazy kind... And she seems really into it. Like, REALLY into it. (Though, I will agree I find it confusing when she speaks French all of a sudden)
Meanwhile, in Paris, even super cute lesbians are apparently unable to get dates. Because...? :smallconfused:
Also, @SDB: Roll credits?
Olinser
2015-10-31, 02:45 PM
Aw, come on. I'm sure she meant well. At least she's not one of the crazy kind... And she seems really into it. Like, REALLY into it. (Though, I will agree I find it confusing when she speaks French all of a sudden)
Meanwhile, in Paris, even super cute lesbians are apparently unable to get dates. Because...? :smallconfused:
Also, @SDB: Roll credits?
Because she doesn't really WANT dates.
Remember, per the in-comic timeline here she just broke up with her at least somewhat long time girl friend like a week ago. And she appears to be chronically insecure, so she doesn't actually LOOK for dates and complains that she can't find them (because she's not really looking).
Discus-Spinner
2015-10-31, 05:31 PM
Meanwhile, in Paris, even super cute lesbians are apparently unable to get dates. Because...?
Because of the level of competition, as well as everything else. The degree of generic universal cuteness in that universe is astronomical.
Also, @SDB: Roll credits?
At what? Okay, the ...buns? punchline was, well, punchline-ish - but I suspect we'll see some immediate follow-through on Tuesday. That scene's barely got started.
Because she doesn't really WANT dates.
Remember, per the in-comic timeline here she just broke up with her at least somewhat long time girl friend like a week ago. And she appears to be chronically insecure, so she doesn't actually LOOK for dates and complains that she can't find them (because she's not really looking).
Because of the level of competition, as well as everything else. The degree of generic universal cuteness in that universe is astronomical.
Well, point(s) taken, I guess. :smallbiggrin: (Except the first one :smallconfused:)
At what? Okay, the ...buns? punchline was, well, punchline-ish - but I suspect we'll see some immediate follow-through on Tuesday. That scene's barely got started.
Sorry, seen too much CinemaSins. They always say that when the title is mentioned and I figured it's close enough :smalltongue:
SaintRidley
2015-11-05, 11:01 AM
Didi proves to be the kind of fan wrestling promoters want, wrestlers hate, and WWE (and to a lesser extent the other large-ish North American promotions) deserves.
Fascinating.
Didi proves to be the kind of fan wrestling promoters want, wrestlers hate, and WWE (and to a lesser extent the other large-ish North American promotions) deserves.
Fascinating.
Wrestlers hate people who think wrestling is real? I never knew.
Well, Damien lost the chance to get massively beaten up... too bad?
Zii and Ruby are going to be millionaires soon and Sandra... I have no idea where this plot is going. More lesbian shennanigans, probably.
Olinser
2015-11-07, 06:55 PM
Wrestlers hate people who think wrestling is real? I never knew.
Well, Damien lost the chance to get massively beaten up... too bad?
Zii and Ruby are going to be millionaires soon and Sandra... I have no idea where this plot is going. More lesbian shennanigans, probably.
Yeah I kind of stopped reading SOTR, it feels like it's just flailing around desperately searching for a plot rather than having anything planned out.
SaintRidley
2015-11-08, 01:30 AM
Wrestlers hate people who think wrestling is real? I never knew.
They hate the ones who have the bright idea to try and get into the ring when they're putting on a show. Fortunately Didi is talked down from it.
Mind, promoters don't like that either, but they do love viewers who are instantly absorbed into what's going on. Hence the term "marks" for referring to those viewers.
Discus-Spinner
2015-11-08, 05:44 AM
Yeah I kind of stopped reading SOTR, it feels like it's just flailing around desperately searching for a plot rather than having anything planned out.
I think that it's been set up to have a string of short-term mostly-gag stories, without a strong overarching plot, but with some possibilities for individual characters or their situations to change occasionally. Take it or leave it on that basis.
Chromascope3D
2015-11-10, 02:12 PM
Ruby is still best girl.
Olinser
2015-11-10, 11:04 PM
I think that it's been set up to have a string of short-term mostly-gag stories, without a strong overarching plot, but with some possibilities for individual characters or their situations to change occasionally. Take it or leave it on that basis.
At the beginning it actually did have at least a somewhat thought out plot, that of Sandra falling into the whole 'video game model' thing and Gary's entire cameo was basically her struggling with the fact that she's become a symbol of female gamers but hasn't actually gamed in years. Now they seemed to have jettisoned that entirely in favor of random semi-lesbian hijinx which aren't particularly entertaining.
Ruby is still best girl.
Well, she sure is. But SDB doesn't seem to stick.
SotR meanwhile... eh, I guess Lavali is getting something out of it? Though, things might get pretty bad soon. Also: So Lukas... lives with Eva? And I guess you can just tag in someone else during sex?
Oh Didi, sometimes you get portrayed as not just dumb... and sometimes you get portrayed like in this arc.
Discus-Spinner
2015-11-13, 04:38 AM
Well, she sure is. But SDB doesn't seem to stick.
It sticks with me.
So Lukas... lives with Eva? And I guess you can just tag in someone else during sex?
I'm guessing that Lukas is Eva's live-in PA/sidekick, useful and somehow trusted enough that she keeps him around and puts up with his snark because he gets stuff done. And Eva is willing to tag someone in, but Eva is being written as Decadent Evil, so of course she is. And I'm getting a "kept man" vibe off Armani, so he does what he's told.
Cikomyr
2015-11-22, 01:26 PM
I guess most people here are as generally uninterested in the current storyline as I am, seeing the lack of participation in the thread..
So.. can someone help me out to remember what was that dark lady's deal? What's that she borrowed, and why she seems.. I don't know. Awkward with Gary?
So.. can someone help me out to remember what was that dark lady's deal? What's that she borrowed, and why she seems.. I don't know. Awkward with Gary?
She's one of the million girls Amber invited to get swirlied. She turned out to be kind of geeky, or at least... interested in tech? Also, she's the secretary for a firm Gary applied at, the one where the boss thought he was a stud. They do have a bit of chemistry together, so... yeah.
The other plots aren't really exciting right now, yeah. Maybe this could become more interesting. SDB is okay, possibly building up to a good arc. DC had a few fun strips lately, imo.
Olinser
2015-11-22, 02:27 PM
I guess most people here are as generally uninterested in the current storyline as I am, seeing the lack of participation in the thread..
So.. can someone help me out to remember what was that dark lady's deal? What's that she borrowed, and why she seems.. I don't know. Awkward with Gary?
I mean for weeks now we've been following DiDi around, and quite frankly there is very little interest in staged wrestling these days, especially amongst the community that would read a webcomic.
Cikomyr
2015-11-22, 03:22 PM
She's one of the million girls Amber invited to get swirlied. She turned out to be kind of geeky, or at least... interested in tech? Also, she's the secretary for a firm Gary applied at, the one where the boss thought he was a stud. They do have a bit of chemistry together, so... yeah.
The other plots aren't really exciting right now, yeah. Maybe this could become more interesting. SDB is okay, possibly building up to a good arc. DC had a few fun strips lately, imo.
Thanks a lot. I do remember her and where she worked, and how they met.. But I forgot what she borrowed Gary.
Also, why does she stutter about K.. K.. Koffee?
JadedDM
2015-11-22, 05:02 PM
Also, why does she stutter about K.. K.. Koffee?
She doesn't. Gary is the one who does that.
Discus-Spinner
2015-11-23, 07:27 AM
I guess most people here are as generally uninterested in the current storyline as I am, seeing the lack of participation in the thread..
The comics have their own fairly decent discussion boards, and a thread over on TV Tropes. Divided attention.
She's one of the million girls Amber invited to get swirlied. She turned out to be kind of geeky, or at least... interested in tech?
She's an audio engineering student (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/adult_friends) as well as being a gaming geek, so yes, you could say that she's interested in tech.
Also, she's the secretary for a firm Gary applied at, the one where the boss thought he was a stud.
Intern, actually. (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/i_am_here_for_an_interview)
All Tracy's appearances to date. (http://www.ma3comic.com/keywords/Tracy) (Note: one or two may be in NSFW strips.)
I mean for weeks now we've been following DiDi around, and quite frankly there is very little interest in staged wrestling these days, especially amongst the community that would read a webcomic.
That storyline isn't doing much for me either. But I gather that quite a lot of geeks are pro wrestling fans (and at least one of the writers clearly is), so it's probably not that poor a commercial move.
Also, why does she stutter about K.. K.. Koffee?
She doesn't; Gary does. Look at the speech bubbles. And Gary stammers because he's suddenly realised that he's mentioned a touchy subject somehow and Tracy is angry about something. This is amazing social sensitivity and massive character development by his standards - but then, the last time he blurted tactlessly around Tracy, she half-strangled him (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/just_cut_it_out). It seems that negative reinforcement actually works on him.
Cikomyr
2015-11-23, 08:26 AM
Yhea. Again, thanks aa lot. I must have been pretty vegetative not to be able to follow a gorram speech bubble.
So.. Have we.seen that "James" guy?
The comics have their own fairly decent discussion boards, and a thread over on TV Tropes. Divided attention.
Ah, I guess maybe I should look around there then. Well, on the discussion boards, not on the black hole of time.
She's an audio engineering student (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/adult_friends) as well as being a gaming geek, so yes, you could say that she's interested in tech.
Intern, actually. (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/i_am_here_for_an_interview)
All Tracy's appearances to date. (http://www.ma3comic.com/keywords/Tracy) (Note: one or two may be in NSFW strips.)
Ah, right, the crowdfounded video performance thing. And intern, close enough. It's been a while since that strip :smallredface:
Glass Mouse
2015-11-23, 11:33 AM
So.. Have we.seen that "James" guy?
Dude. You just got a list of all Tracy's appearances. (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/those_lively_curls)
halfeye
2015-11-23, 01:05 PM
Dude. You just got a list of all Tracy's appearances.
Erm, nope. Definitely NSFW.
http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/have_to_make_a_phone_call
Third from right, last panel, I think.
http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/you_kept_this_secret_from_us
Last panel, front row right, pretty sure that's her.
Discus-Spinner
2015-11-24, 05:42 AM
Those two strips were from before she gained much individual identity, let alone a name - and retroactive tagging is a bit patchy with this comic. But anyway, they're part of a scene which was covered by some strips on that list, so I stand by the claim that all of her appearances are covered.
Ignoring latest posts...
Aww, DiDi is somehow adorable like that. But... listening?
Jerzy is surprisingly insightful. Then again, he is possibly the most normal person in the whole comic universe? Let's hope he can prevent whatever murder might be happening right now.
Also: Lavali is kind to Aaina... and Sandra (?)... and the readers :smallredface:
Discus-Spinner
2015-11-27, 05:49 AM
Jerzy is surprisingly insightful. Then again, he is possibly the most normal person in the whole comic universe? Let's hope he can prevent whatever murder might be happening right now.
Latest strip shows that the detonation is still on a five-second countdown.
As to Jerzy - he has serious claims to be the Only Sane Man in the setting. Sometimes. But other times, he blows it, mainly by ignoring problems until they detonate in his face. He likes dating drama queens, then acts surprised when they go all dramatic on him.
SaintRidley
2015-11-29, 11:07 PM
He really should explain the whole "wrestling is fiction" thing to Didi or someone's going to be hurt.
halfeye
2015-11-30, 10:19 AM
He really should explain the whole "wrestling is fiction" thing to Didi or someone's going to be hurt.
It's a fictional universe, maybe in-universe, wrestling isn't fictional?
SaintRidley
2015-11-30, 03:20 PM
It's a fictional universe, maybe in-universe, wrestling isn't fictional?
It's pretty clear pro wrestling operates the same way in their world as in ours.
halfeye
2015-11-30, 04:35 PM
It's pretty clear pro wrestling operates the same way in their world as in ours.
There are (silly) people who believe it's not fiction in ours.
I'd guess the authors of the comic would have problems with the wrestlers in our world if they said it was fiction in their world.
SaintRidley
2015-12-01, 10:35 AM
There are (silly) people who believe it's not fiction in ours.
Which is fine, as long as they stay far away from the inside of a ring until they're disabused of their silly notions.
I guess it's not a good moment to mention I also believed in wrestling when I was still a teen? :smalltongue:
Though, Didi in the ring might actually be quite a danger... I wonder if Damien is aware what he's getting into. Well, we know what he HOPES he's getting into.
Also: Wait, there are people who don't know about DOA Volleyball? Or what is that look supposed to mean? :smallconfused:
Radar
2015-12-01, 02:25 PM
Also: Wait, there are people who don't know about DOA Volleyball? Or what is that look supposed to mean? :smallconfused:
I might fail to convey my understanding of this, but here goes nothing: her look most likely means something along those lines: so you like to watch bouncing boobs, huh? She made him admit to watching digital jelly-like breasts and is amused by his shame I guess.
It wasn't about knowing of the game - it was about the ammount of details Gary immediately provided and which details he provided.
I might fail to convey my understanding of this, but here goes nothing: her look most likely means something along those lines: so you like to watch bouncing boobs, huh? She made him admit to watching digital jelly-like breasts and is amused by his shame I guess.
It wasn't about knowing of the game - it was about the ammount of details Gary immediately provided and which details he provided.
Well, but really, that is what I would think of as well, when someone mentioned the game. I mean, it's (in)famous for its special breast jiggle engine. And... really nothing else. That's like talking about Dark Souls and not commenting about its difficulty, no?
sidenote: I never played the game. I wonder if the engine is tuned for realistic effects or... appealing(?) effects.
Radar
2015-12-01, 04:46 PM
Well, but really, that is what I would think of as well, when someone mentioned the game. I mean, it's (in)famous for its special breast jiggle engine. And... really nothing else. That's like talking about Dark Souls and not commenting about its difficulty, no?
sidenote: I never played the game. I wonder if the engine is tuned for realistic effects or... appealing(?) effects.
All I know is my gut says maybe. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM)
As for the sidenote, I didn't play the game, but the cutscenes and gameplay videos are readily available. The engine is nowhere near realistic and IMO more uncanny valley then appealing. Seriously, what were they thinking?
SaintRidley
2015-12-01, 05:03 PM
All I know is my gut says maybe. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM)
As for the sidenote, I didn't play the game, but the cutscenes and gameplay videos are readily available. The engine is nowhere near realistic and IMO more uncanny valley then appealing. Seriously, what were they thinking?
13 year old boys will not know any better and will think it's the best thing ever.
Discus-Spinner
2015-12-02, 08:17 AM
...and Tracy has made Gary sound suspiciously like a thirteen-year-old boy. Which amuses her, because she's discovered how easy Gary is to mess with.
...and Tracy has made Gary sound suspiciously like a thirteen-year-old boy. Which amuses her, because she's discovered how easy Gary is to mess with.
Wasn't that clear since their first "date"? I mean, I thought anyone would realize that about Gary ithin five minutes. (Like with me)
Wow, Aaina, you... you suck at this. Way to ruin the scene :smalltongue:
And what a mess at SDB. btw, why is Angel wearing a... breast wrap? :smallconfused: And, I know it was never made quite clear but... Jerzy is bi?
SaintRidley
2015-12-05, 04:46 PM
And Didi is going to react horribly to the heel turn, given her facial expression.
Cikomyr
2015-12-05, 06:18 PM
Ooofff... Thats dirty.
A lot.
And what a mess at SDB. btw, why is Angel wearing a... breast wrap? :smallconfused: And, I know it was never made quite clear but... Jerzy is bi?
Angel is biologically a woman, but she's genderfluid, and today she's feeling more masculine than feminine. Therefore, he's using bandage to compress his chest and get a more masculine-looking silhouette. Note to anyone in Angel's situation or similar: it's actually not a good idea to do that, you can injure yourself. There exist specialized chest binders that are designed to be less dangerous to your health, though even then you shouldn't wear them 24/7.
Jerzy is bi, yes. Really, in Mà3, you should assume characters are bi until proven otherwise (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/enough_fun_for_a_week).
Adaon Nightwind
2015-12-05, 07:34 PM
Um.. i have no clue at all what is happening in that ring. Like, at all. Why did Roxie turn against her teammate, and in such a violent way? Is this a normal occurence with wrestling show matches?
SaintRidley
2015-12-05, 09:28 PM
Um.. i have no clue at all what is happening in that ring. Like, at all. Why did Roxie turn against her teammate, and in such a violent way? Is this a normal occurence with wrestling show matches?
In pro wrestling, one of the more common ways to split up a face (good guy) tag team (so the two can take different directions in singles competition) is for one of the team members to turn heel (bad guy) by betraying and/or attacking their partner.
This (https://youtu.be/O5wIrYuzDOg) is perhaps the most famous example of exactly that sort of turn, which led to Shawn Michaels becoming one of the biggest stars in the history of pro wrestling.
Angel is biologically a woman, but she's genderfluid, and today she's feeling more masculine than feminine. Therefore, he's using bandage to compress his chest and get a more masculine-looking silhouette. Note to anyone in Angel's situation or similar: it's actually not a good idea to do that, you can injure yourself. There exist specialized chest binders that are designed to be less dangerous to your health, though even then you shouldn't wear them 24/7.
Jerzy is bi, yes. Really, in Mà3, you should assume characters are bi until proven otherwise (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/enough_fun_for_a_week).
Well, point taken on the second, I guess :smallbiggrin:
But has the first ever been established? I don't recall an instance of Angel ever being established as biologically anything else than male.
JadedDM
2015-12-06, 05:05 PM
But has the first ever been established? I don't recall an instance of Angel ever being established as biologically anything else than male.
Yep, right here (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/carried_away).
Olinser
2015-12-06, 09:35 PM
Yep, right here (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/carried_away).
That was far from clear. I personally thought that Angel was a man who'd just put on a padded bra.
Glass Mouse
2015-12-07, 02:10 PM
Yep, right here (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/carried_away).
There's also this (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/missed_opportunity).
Y'know, reading through the entire archives knowing this, and knowing that Jerzy is gay (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/if_it_will_ease_your_mind), their old relationship makes a lot more sense. Here (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/i_am_whoever_you_want_me_to_be), for instance, I'm pretty sure Jerzy was about to say "Angie, you know I'm gay". Angie/Angel being dfab explains why Jerzy would've so completely written off Angie/Angel despite their clear chemistry. It might also explain the "the truth" part of this strip (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/could_you_close_your_eyes) (which was never otherwise explained).
JadedDM
2015-12-07, 06:13 PM
That was far from clear. I personally thought that Angel was a man who'd just put on a padded bra.
What was unclear about her specifically saying she was genderfluid, verbatim?
Hm... yeah, the first bit I'd say I took as him being a male but using the ladies room and the kiss with Jerzy... I guess it should have been more obvious.
sidenote: Will Didi jump in the ring and beat up Roxxy? Ten bucks say so.
Olinser
2015-12-07, 11:03 PM
What was unclear about her specifically saying she was genderfluid, verbatim?
Which has what to do with whether Angel is a male or female? Oh right, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Regardless of what term you use, Angel biologically is either male or female. The impression of most people was that Angel was male that was bisexual and cross dressed. 'Gender fluid' certainly doesn't refute that.
JadedDM
2015-12-08, 02:04 AM
Which has what to do with whether Angel is a male or female? Oh right, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Regardless of what term you use, Angel biologically is either male or female. The impression of most people was that Angel was male that was bisexual and cross dressed. 'Gender fluid' certainly doesn't refute that.
Genderfluid means one who shifts between genders, and isn't locked into one or the other. In other words, Angel is male or female, depending. Sometimes Angel identifies as male, sometimes as female.
And why would 'most people' think Angel was a cismale crossdresser, when Angel outright claimed to be genderfluid in the comic I linked? I'm confused.
EDIT: Also, what's up with the hostility there?
Discus-Spinner
2015-12-08, 05:20 AM
The fact that Angel is anatomically female was kind of nailed down when Ruby yelled "YOU'RE A GIRL!", and Angel winced a little and then spent a couple of strips' worth of conversation politely clarifying the details for Ruby. I assumed that everybody had read those strips by now.
Before that, most people in the comic who hadn't known Angel previously assumed that he was male with a taste for nigh-crossdressing camp style, because that's how he'd been presenting whenever we saw him. A lot of readers were fooled too.
And nobody here, and nobody who knows in-comic, denies that Angel is gender-fluid, or thinks that she/he shouldn't be. The fact that Angel is biologically/anatomically female is a relevant detail, though, partly because it obliges her to do something to flatten or disguise her bust when presenting as male, as seen in these latest strips, but mostly because of how Jerzy (who's apparently known Angel since childhood) feels about it.
Yes, Jerzy is clearly bisexual by any sane definition. He's not only had (enthusiastic) sex with both Zii and Dillon, he seems to be attracted to both Angel's male and female personas. However, he insisted to Dillon that he transitioned from bisexual to entirely gay. Trouble is, he's clearly fooling himself. He hinted at least once that he wasn't attracted to Angel because he sees Angel as female (understandable, given that friendship going so far back), but then they wound up in bed together anyway. And the denial is messing up his head.
Glass Mouse
2015-12-08, 08:11 AM
Yes, Jerzy is clearly bisexual by any sane definition. He's not only had (enthusiastic) sex with both Zii and Dillon, he seems to be attracted to both Angel's male and female personas. However, he insisted to Dillon that he transitioned from bisexual to entirely gay. Trouble is, he's clearly fooling himself. He hinted at least once that he wasn't attracted to Angel because he sees Angel as female (understandable, given that friendship going so far back), but then they wound up in bed together anyway. And the denial is messing up his head.
Most people exist on a spectrum. Just like asexual people can span from "sex feels super nice but I don't ever feel a particular need to grab any specific person and get it on" to "ewwww sex!", people's attractions to different genders can span. Dillon certainly seems on the "eww, gross!" side of things when it comes to sex with women (or at the very least incapable of making it work (http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/with_girls)), whereas Jerzy has managed to get it up.
I've known gay people who had sex with people of the gender they were "supposed" to, and it was perfectly okay and tolerable, and then they slept with someone of their own gender, and it was MINDBLOWING. Those people are still gay, and might be the majority. I figure if you're actively repulsed, it's a lot easier to figure out your sexuality much earlier.
You see straight people engage in same-sex, uh, sex all the time as well. That's why we made the word "situational homosexuality". If it's all there is, and sex feels good, and you're not actively repulsed, eh, sure, why not. Touch is touch, and it's better than nothing. Gay people can engage in the same "eh, whatever" in regards to another gender.
Of course a lot of people exist in the gray area. "Bi" spans a wide spectrum of experiences, and a lot of it comes down to where we put the borders. Let's look at our old friend the Kinsey scale.
http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/images/ak-hhscale2_clip_image001.jpg
How do we define "gay" here? Is it only people who are at 6? What about bi? Only people who are at 3? But then 4-6 would be gay.
Point being, no matter which scale we look at (and let's be real, the Kinsey scale is extremely simplistic in the first place), there's a lot of fuzziness.
So no, Jerzy is not bi "by any sane definition". He's bi by a somewhat narrow definition of homosexuality. Genderfluid people are in relationships with monosexual people all the time without anyone having to redefine themselves. Jerzy may very well shift his choice of identifier. Or he might continue to prefer male Angel (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/this_deserves_another_chance), date only the boy side (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/dating_my_boy_side), and have gay sex (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/now_is_good) with Angel.
It's a non-standard definition of gender and homosexuality, but the entire queer movement (including genderfluid individuals) is working hard to redefine a lot of those things anyway. Either way, I wouldn't mistrust Jerzy's gayness just yet.
SaintRidley
2015-12-08, 10:43 AM
What glass mouse said. Also, Olinser, you seem to be completely missing the fact that by being genderfluid that makes all the difference.
That's actually a pretty good drawing of a scorpion crosslock. Also, Didi should be kept far away from professional wrestling until she understands the concept of kayfabe.
Discus-Spinner
2015-12-08, 11:00 AM
So no, Jerzy is not bi "by any sane definition". He's bi by a somewhat narrow definition of homosexuality.
But he's not just had heterosexual sex out of situational desperation, or because he was confused by a conservative upbringing; he had sex with Zii, at his own instigation (according to her), quite recently, and for emotional reasons that he can still describe passionately enough to bring a tear to Erik's eye. And even while he was trying to describe himself as gay, he admitted to a bisexual "phase". If a character described himself as straight, but admitted to a bisexual "phase" which turned out to have included relatively recent, enthusiastic gay sex which he himself instigated, I rather doubt that many people here would be saying that yes, he was indeed entirely straight.
I get it that boundaries are fuzzy and a few experiences don't define anyone for life, but Jerzy's insistence that he's entirely gay looks much more like denial than self-knowledge to me.
More to the point, I'll bet that when Dillon notices those bindings, he's going to conclude that he's been let down by another closet bisexual...
*mumblemumblecanwenothavethisdiscussionmumble*
That's actually a pretty good drawing of a scorpion crosslock. Also, Didi should be kept far away from professional wrestling until she understands the concept of kayfabe.
I think DiDi might spontaneously become the new Montrealean Wrestling sensation. For better or worse. Also, Roxxy might get hurt badly.
Olinser
2015-12-09, 03:42 PM
What glass mouse said. Also, Olinser, you seem to be completely missing the fact that by being genderfluid that makes all the difference.
That's actually a pretty good drawing of a scorpion crosslock. Also, Didi should be kept far away from professional wrestling until she understands the concept of kayfabe.
No, it doesn't. The question was asked when it had been established that Angel was male or female. The strip linked demonstrated literally nothing with regards to that.
Ruby's outburst WOULD have been a good strip to link, and was much more concrete evidence.
Well, Dillon being confused makes me a bit less worried about my lack of observation. Also, Zii is being helpful. Or at least, giving useful advice.
And the main comic leaves the more interesting part to skip to an older scene... I guess that answers why that date went wrong.
Cikomyr
2015-12-10, 08:20 AM
Let us be fair. He has the rights to.hold these opinions regarding its degrading treatment of women.
Maybe he goes over the edge when he claims no women right in their mind should like it. Maybe. Its a bit judgemental.
But he certainly in the wrong for not even picking on some obvious visual cues she was sending. Come on bud, you are in a date. The meal isnt the important part, your date is? Pay attention to HER
Glass Mouse
2015-12-10, 09:06 AM
But he certainly in the wrong for not even picking on some obvious visual cues she was sending. Come on bud, you are in a date. The meal isnt the important part, your date is? Pay attention to HER
Also, it's always charming to promote a cause so fiercely that you completely steamroll someone the cause is actually about/for.
Dude messed up on quite a few levels here :smalltongue:
Adaon Nightwind
2015-12-10, 03:44 PM
@ SaintRidley: Thanks for the Wrestling Information and Link! It does explain it, but i must admit it makes it unappealing for me. (I do not like betrayal in a team, just a personal quirk.)
BtT, the Date could have gone worse for him. Dude got both dishes, appearantly, and without even asking. :smallbiggrin:
Jayngfet
2015-12-11, 10:49 AM
Let us be fair. He has the rights to.hold these opinions regarding its degrading treatment of women.
Deciding that something meant for adults shouldn't be available for purchase by them because it offends your sensibilities is an opinion that should never be entertained. She can't get the version she wants due to people exactly like him.
This is pretty anvilicious but the point itself needs to be made. Especially by an artist who's career is based on this kind of thing.
Cikomyr
2015-12-11, 01:51 PM
Deciding that something meant for adults shouldn't be available for purchase by them because it offends your sensibilities is an opinion that should never be entertained. She can't get the version she wants due to people exactly like him.
This is pretty anvilicious but the point itself needs to be made. Especially by an artist who's career is based on this kind of thing.
Oh, i am not claiming that he is right in deciding what is best for others. But i have to say i am pretty uncomfortable defending what is essentially blatant objectification of women, where the feminine gender is reduced to nothing more than a shape to be lusted at.
Its.. Degrading. But holding that opinion (like i clearly do) is not a license to act like a jerk.
And even if you want to preach about these values (which is rarely effectice), there is a time and place. A date is NOT the time and place.
Felius
2015-12-15, 04:10 PM
And there it is. She almost felt she didn't actually belong to this webcomic, and was being far too reasonable and self aware. Now we know she actually does fit in with the rest of the characters. :smalltongue:
And there it is. She almost felt she didn't actually belong to this webcomic, and was being far too reasonable and self aware. Now we know she actually does fit in with the rest of the characters. :smalltongue:
Maybe it's the characters. Maybe they carry some weird kind of sexual diesease they spread to people getting close? :smallconfused: Anyway... she's acting normal in the way she's reating Gary now. For the comic's standard.
Also: So... Aaina had Sandra eat her... steamed buns all night? And then...? And I totally forgot... Marie's gay now? (It's chic, too)
And SDB... uhm, OKAY. Better no comment.
Thialfi
2015-12-16, 12:09 PM
Judging by Angel's reaction I'm assuming that there is something derogatory to the term that Ramona used to describe herself. Is this the case?
The origin of the word is from greek mythology as it refers to the love child of Hermes and Aphrodite, so I don't see a cause for offense there, but I don't really know.
JadedDM
2015-12-16, 03:19 PM
Judging by Angel's reaction I'm assuming that there is something derogatory to the term that Ramona used to describe herself. Is this the case?
The origin of the word is from greek mythology as it refers to the love child of Hermes and Aphrodite, so I don't see a cause for offense there, but I don't really know.
Indeed, 'hermaphrodite' is considered an offensive term by many. 'Intersex' is the preferred term now.
Olinser
2015-12-16, 09:37 PM
Indeed, 'hermaphrodite' is considered an offensive term by many. 'Intersex' is the preferred term now.
It's a word that's been around for somewhere in the neighborhood of 700 years and has a concrete definition with no negative connotations. PC people seriously need to get over themselves.
Guancyto
2015-12-17, 01:42 AM
This is also an intersex person referring to themselves as a hermaphrodite.
I, uh, I think that even in the most PC paradigms they're allowed to do that?
tonytong
2015-12-17, 02:38 AM
nice:smallsmile:
Olinser
2015-12-17, 02:46 AM
This is also an intersex person referring to themselves as a hermaphrodite.
I, uh, I think that even in the most PC paradigms they're allowed to do that?
Which is why Angel screaming about the term is idiotic. Angel is essentially demanding that the person the term ACTUALLY refers to arbitrarily be offended and conform to her 'correct' terminology.
One other note. Am I the only one that finds the most recent SoTR to be extremely creepy? Aaina basically sexually molested Sandra when she was too drunk to even know what was going on.
Discus-Spinner
2015-12-17, 04:51 AM
Angel is being an idiot, obviously (like, this is new?), but technically, "hermaphrodite" means a creature with both male and female genitals, which is insanely rare (like, probably non-existent) among human beings. "Intersex" means ambiguous genital anatomy or hormonal responses, and hence is presumably correct for Ramona.
Sure, Angel is almost certainly being right on rather than being a semantics fascist - but he'll have the semantics fascists on his side this time. Plus, I think that there's a slight sense that "hermaphrodite" has overtones of the old-fashioned freak show, though whether that's a real problem is another matter.
As for Aaina - well, yes, she's being a little bit creepy. But she didn't so much "molest" as "let herself be molested by", so I'll still call it comedy.
Angel is being an idiot, obviously (like, this is new?), but technically, "hermaphrodite" means a creature with both male and female genitals, which is insanely rare (like, probably non-existent) among human beings. "Intersex" means ambiguous genital anatomy or hormonal responses, and hence is presumably correct for Ramona.
I'm not going to say "more common than you might think" but it happens, i.e. hermaphrodite humans. But it's rare enough. I guess the big-ish issue is the term is used for animals and plants and - yes- used to be the "freak" term, but it also somewhat excludes questions about the individuals psyche and self-identification.
However... Ramona can call herself whatever she wants in my book.
As for Aaina - well, yes, she's being a little bit creepy. But she didn't so much "molest" as "let herself be molested by", so I'll still call it comedy.
What I was going to say. And it's not like she actively did something, cuddle with a drunk Sandra who gave no indication she minded. She didn't start groping back or anything from what we know.
edit: it seems Gary's small developing spine has vanished again.
Olinser
2015-12-17, 02:39 PM
Angel is being an idiot, obviously (like, this is new?), but technically, "hermaphrodite" means a creature with both male and female genitals, which is insanely rare (like, probably non-existent) among human beings. "Intersex" means ambiguous genital anatomy or hormonal responses, and hence is presumably correct for Ramona.
Sure, Angel is almost certainly being right on rather than being a semantics fascist - but he'll have the semantics fascists on his side this time. Plus, I think that there's a slight sense that "hermaphrodite" has overtones of the old-fashioned freak show, though whether that's a real problem is another matter.
As for Aaina - well, yes, she's being a little bit creepy. But she didn't so much "molest" as "let herself be molested by", so I'll still call it comedy.
So if Aaina were male and Sandra had dreamed about 'eating sausages' instead of 'steamed buns', then everything would still be cool?
So if Aaina were male and Sandra had dreamed about 'eating sausages' instead of 'steamed buns', then everything would still be cool?
You know that... steamed buns and sausages are not equivalent, right? I mean, if Sandra was eating... uh... clams(?) all night things might be somewhat more iffy, but then... honstly, it's not like you'd sleep-******** anyone in real life. Right?
TinyMushroom
2015-12-18, 08:36 AM
I know I shouldn't expect too much from these comics, but to be honest the fact that Dillon is being a total jerk and denying the legitimacy of Angel's gender identity while getting off practically scot-free is making me really uncomfortable.
I mean I agree that Angel is being a jerk about things as well and shouldn't be policing how Ramona refers to herself. But the way Angel's being portrayed as the most unreasonable person in the room, especially taking into account the fact that he's the first/only nonbinary character in the comic as far as I remember just doesn't sit well with me.
Glass Mouse
2015-12-18, 11:53 AM
I know I shouldn't expect too much from these comics, but to be honest the fact that Dillon is being a total jerk and denying the legitimacy of Angel's gender identity while getting off practically scot-free is making me really uncomfortable.
I mean I agree that Angel is being a jerk about things as well and shouldn't be policing how Ramona refers to herself. But the way Angel's being portrayed as the most unreasonable person in the room, especially taking into account the fact that he's the first/only nonbinary character in the comic as far as I remember just doesn't sit well with me.
While, yes, Dillon is being a complete and total jerk, I wouldn't say he's presented as being in the right. In the past three strips:
Dillon loses the verbal sparring by inadverdently acknowledging Angel's gender. (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/knockout_in_a_dress)
Dillon's cisnormative assumptions become a punchline. (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/not_tomboyish_at_all)
"Angel's... right." (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/out_of_whack)
Not to mention that in Angel's previous scene, s/he was the calm educator with Ruby's awkward yaoi-fangirlism being the punchline. (http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/hard_for_you_to_understand) The comic has generally been good about not going the "omg she thinks she's a boy, isn't that hilarious?" route, with most punchlines having very little to do with Angel's gender and more to do with his eccentric personality, his Dillon hate, or other people's awkwardness around him.
It's on iffy territory, but I wouldn't call it damning. Personally, I'm kinda expecting Zii to step in with a 101 smackdown (which might justify her inclusion in the storyline, since she has thus far mostly just been a foil for Ruby's business ideas).
But I also might be biased because I've never loved Angel more than I do in these strips. He's being hilarious and strangely endearing. It's refreshing to see new flavors of jerk apart from "catty Jerzy-stealer" :smalltongue:
Discus-Spinner
2015-12-22, 06:11 AM
As it has been put elsewhere, Dillon and Angel are currently playing douchebag tennis. They're a pair of egomaniac drama queens, and putting them in the same room is a recipe for disaster. If you think either of them is "being portrayed as correct" or "getting off scot-free", then you need to pay attention to the whole scene rather than to individual strips. It's just a question of whose serve it is.
SaintRidley
2015-12-24, 11:33 AM
Izz needs to go. Getting all Single White Female creeps me out, and that's all I see happening here.
Chromascope3D
2015-12-25, 09:32 PM
Izz needs to go. Getting all Single White Female creeps me out, and that's all I see happening here.
I only just now realized that Izz is a letter inversion of Zii. That's... even creepier than it was. :P
I only just now realized that Izz is a letter inversion of Zii. That's... even creepier than it was. :P
Uhm... I guess posting a popular pokemon meme would be inconsiderate :smallredface:
So... I'm still not sure how much of this Izz is planning in order to replace Zii and how much is just coincidence... Not that I would say I don't expect her to but she seems... er... okay, stupid enough to just act like this by accident without intending to come across creepy as eff.
Glass Mouse
2015-12-30, 03:18 AM
Sigh. If only lesbian shenanigans were this easy in the real world.
Also, considering the actual pronounciation of those letters, Ingrid's Sweden-speak is hilariously bad. I tried and just doubled over laughing.
Sigh. If only lesbian shenanigans were this easy in the real world.
Also, considering the actual pronounciation of those letters, Ingrid's Sweden-speak is hilariously bad. I tried and just doubled over laughing.
:smallbiggrin: Wow, Marie has the worst best luck ever :smallltongue: So... that's how lesbians meet new people? In Ma3Paris?
Wait, so Swedish is not just English with umlauts? My life is a lie!
Eldan
2015-12-30, 08:01 AM
:smallbiggrin: Wow, Marie has the worst best luck ever :smallltongue: So... that's how lesbians meet new people? In Ma3Paris?
Wait, so Swedish is not just English with umlauts? My life is a lie!
As a German, you should know that Scandinavian languages are German with different Umlauts. I'm disappointed.
As a German, you should know that Scandinavian languages are German with different Umlauts. I'm disappointed.
It is? Well, I guess it's still closer to German than Bavarian.
Izz' plan(?) seems to be working better and better. I wonder if she'll actually try to kill Zii now. If she ever returns from her cameo.
halfeye
2015-12-31, 11:50 AM
Izz' plan(?) seems to be working better and better. I wonder if she'll actually try to kill Zii now. If she ever returns from her cameo.
Nah, she's much too plump.
Nah, she's much too plump.
Izzy? Well, yeah, they don't look alike in the face either, doesn't mean she can't try to take her place in a less literal sense. But I forgot she sucks at playing the guitar, so that is quite a problem there, I assume.
Also, SDB reveals Angel and Ramona's relationship. Dun dun dun?
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-03, 06:39 AM
Also, SDB reveals Angel and Ramona's relationship. Dun dun dun?
Anybody who hadn't guessed that already was reading in their sleep.
I was more amused by the very, very Ruby line in the first frame.
Anybody who hadn't guessed that already was reading in their sleep.
I was more amused by the very, very Ruby line in the first frame.
Really? So... are, uh, non-binary genders something that runs in the family? :smallconfused:
Which one? Googling the issue?
Also: Wow, Ingrid must be one hell of a kisser. Not sure if that makes Marie super-lucky or super-unlucky. (Wait, did I say that already?)
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-06, 04:16 AM
Really? So... are, uh, non-binary genders something that runs in the family?
No, their interactions only made sense if they were siblings (or, just possibly, if Angel had appointed herself Ramona's honorary big sis for some deranged reason). The way they talked to and about each other just screamed family, especially given their dissimilarities.
Which one? Googling the issue?
Yeah. Ruby is one of the few characters in that universe who's really got the hang of the Internet, and is basically grafted to her smartphone. While other people shout, she googles.
No, their interactions only made sense if they were siblings (or, just possibly, if Angel had appointed herself Ramona's honorary big sis for some deranged reason). The way they talked to and about each other just screamed family, especially given their dissimilarities.[/spoiler]
Really? Angel didn't strike me that much as protective of her, just someone who likes to yell at people when they get gender-related words wrong... Okay, a bit protective, but not more than you'd be of a friend.
[quote]Yeah. Ruby is one of the few characters in that universe who's really got the hang of the Internet, and is basically grafted to her smartphone. While other people shout, she googles.
Eh, probably true.
Also, I think Marie might be getting a bit confused. But then she's like the one straight character... or used to be.
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-07, 05:02 AM
Really? Angel didn't strike me that much as protective of her, just someone who likes to yell at people when they get gender-related words wrong... Okay, a bit protective, but not more than you'd be of a friend.
But in that case, you'd have to ask why they were hanging out together in the first place.
Also, I think Marie might be getting a bit confused. But then she's like the one straight character... or used to be.
I think she's still as straight as Ruby and marginally straighter than Gary. But she's also suffering from a bad case of teenage. She's susceptible to fashions, wants to emulate people she thinks are cool, and is, yes, confused by sexuality.
But in that case, you'd have to ask why they were hanging out together in the first place.
Well, they have shared interests, it seems. So maybe in an online forum? Or both are apparently non-binary in gender, so they might have met in some related group? Or, I guess least likely, they just met somewhere. But as they seem to have enough in common to some extent it seems to me more likely they got to know each other due to that rather than being born sibling.
I think she's still as straight as Ruby and marginally straighter than Gary. But she's also suffering from a bad case of teenage. She's susceptible to fashions, wants to emulate people she thinks are cool, and is, yes, confused by sexuality.
Okay, yeah, Ruby is straight, but then Ruby also has... other interests.
I guess her youth might be something I tend to forget. Also, she learns fast there's more to attraction than just looks. And amazing kissing skills.
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-08, 05:01 AM
Well, they have shared interests, it seems.
Like the yaoi? Which Ramona doesn't talk about much to strangers? Or... Umm...
Or both are apparently non-binary in gender, so they might have met in some related group?
Ramona's condition is pretty much entirely medical. Psychologically and socially, she seems to be an unremarkably well-adjusted young woman. The only thing that are binary about her are her biochemistry and internal anatomy - if she chose not to talk about those, the only people who'd even know would be her family and her doctors.
Angel, on the other hand, seems to be medically an ordinary woman; her ambiguities are psychological and social. It's all about the presentation with her.
So they don't actually have any issues or problems in common, and they'd have very little to share on that score. Actually, they're kind of total diametrical opposites in almost every respect.
Okay, yeah, Ruby is straight, but then Ruby also has... other interests.
Like looking at pictures of attractive men?
I guess her youth might be something I tend to forget. Also, she learns fast there's more to attraction than just looks. And amazing kissing skills.
That's the positive side of her geekishness; she knows that interests and inclinations are what's most important. And the real human being to whom she's shown most real attraction so far is the one whose interests match her own most closely.
Like the yaoi? Which Ramona doesn't talk about much to strangers? Or... Umm...
"Doesn't talk much to strangers" nowadays doesn't really mean "doesn't talk about on the internet", does it? :smallconfused:
So they don't actually have any issues or problems in common, and they'd have very little to share on that score. Actually, they're kind of total diametrical opposites in almost every respect.
Eh, I'd say we don't know Ramona enough to judge how much at ease she is with her condition, but point somewhat taken :smalltongue: Though, I still think there are forums for people with general gender issues, whether they are psychcological or medical.
Like looking at pictures of attractive men?
YES! The horror! Who would do something like that?! :smalltongue:
Like setting up people to watch them make out. Or being herself as a fully grown adult unable to do any kind of relationship, or at least have no real sexual interest apart from yaoi.
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-09, 06:44 AM
Eh, I'd say we don't know Ramona enough to judge how much at ease she is with her condition ...
It's limited evidence, obviously, but the way she casually mentioned it to Dillon, then chatted about it without any signs of stress (except when Angel started shouting) suggests she's adjusted okay.
Like setting up people to watch them make out. Or being herself as a fully grown adult unable to do any kind of relationship, or at least have no real sexual interest apart from yaoi.
Eh, Ruby has some problems with repression, but she's getting there by stages. The yaoi interest and a related streak of voyeurism are clearly temporary outlets for a libido that's digging itself out from under where she's buried it - they're making her a bit of a jerk sometimes, but hopefully the damage won't be permanent. And she's developing a working relationship with Andy that gives her further options.
As adolescent sexual awakenings go, it's really not a bad one, apart from the fact that it's six or eight years late.
As adolescent sexual awakenings go, it's really not a bad one, apart from the fact that it's six or eight years late.
Huh, I must have done some things wrong during puberty then :smallbiggrin:
Zii has to face her band mates weak mindedness... This can't possibly end badly.
Wraith
2016-01-10, 09:50 AM
This is where Izz strikes. Zii takes Sonya and Yuuki outside for a talk, comes back in alone to lay down the law to Izz....
....And then out comes the proboscis, in through the ear, *slurp*slurp*slurp* and the invasion is complete. No one will ever know, and no one will ever remember a time when the band's lead singer wasn't a short girl with black and pink hair and a 'Z' in her name.
It's really a miracle of nature, in many small ways.
It's really a miracle of nature, in many small ways.
Ah, nature, so beautiful...
Anyway, Zii finally got laid. More or less. She might need to do some counseling now instead of finishing what she started... Oh, Matt, I'm so close to feeling sorry for you.
I would start to wonder what the proper breat measurements among the cast are and whether Kiley or Zii have a reason to complain but maybe we'd be getting too far off topic.
Marie makes being a lesbian look easy. Also, interesting advice from her subconscious, I feel after the last strip they be byond the coats already...
Wraith
2016-01-24, 02:12 PM
"Now say something smart!" - a thread title, if ever I heard one. :smallbiggrin:
Alas, we're just now on the 4th page of this thread. Doubtless something equally memetic will rear its head in the next few years that it'll take us to get another thread started.
Also, is this the same Matt that we started the comic with? I mean, wow.
Chromascope3D
2016-01-25, 08:38 PM
Ah, nature, so beautiful...
Anyway, Zii finally got laid. More or less. She might need to do some counseling now instead of finishing what she started... Oh, Matt, I'm so close to feeling sorry for you.
I would start to wonder what the proper breat measurements among the cast are and whether Kiley or Zii have a reason to complain but maybe we'd be getting too far off topic.
Marie makes being a lesbian look easy. Also, interesting advice from her subconscious, I feel after the last strip they be byond the coats already...
So, I've completely forgotten, why's she pretending to be a lesbian, exactly?
Discus-Spinner
2016-01-26, 06:25 AM
So, I've completely forgotten, why's she pretending to be a lesbian, exactly?
Because she's just discovered that her friend Lavali is, and she mistakenly thinks that Sandra (who she practically worships) is, and she's deduced that being a lesbian is (a) in, (b) cool, and (c) a way to be BFFs with Sandra.
(How often have people asked that question now?)
The Glyphstone
2016-01-26, 11:32 AM
If only Real Sandra were as assertive as Imaginary Sandra.
Because she's just discovered that her friend Lavali is, and she mistakenly thinks that Sandra (who she practically worships) is, and she's deduced that being a lesbian is (a) in, (b) cool, and (c) a way to be BFFs with Sandra.
(How often have people asked that question now?)
Have we? I mean, it's not like it makes a lot of sense so it's easy to forget but I don't think the question came up that often :smalltongue:
Imaginary Sandra is after all what marie thinks she is like... though, Sandra has become a lot more confident. I mean, maybe because I'm comparing her to the other protagonist here (ahem) but even if not... she's fine, by me.
Also: So... nobody told DiDi the truth about wrestling? Ooookay.
SaintRidley
2016-01-28, 11:38 PM
The first of these personal workouts should absolutely be a viewing of and lecture on Wrestling Isn't Wrestling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvMOf3hsGA) (fair warning, some cursing).
SaintRidley
2016-02-03, 01:01 PM
Kayfabe gonna be broken imminently! Batten down the hatches, Roxie is about to expose the business!
Kayfabe gonna be broken imminently! Batten down the hatches, Roxie is about to expose the business!
I don't think it's possible to train someone to be a wrestler without telling them what wrestling actually is.
Besides, we're talking DiDi here. If you don't tell her she's supposed to fake the hit, she'll send her sparring partner to a hospital -- or a morgue.
halfeye
2016-02-03, 03:00 PM
I don't think it's possible to train someone to be a wrestler without telling them what wrestling actually is.
Besides, we're talking DiDi here. If you don't tell her she's supposed to fake the hit, she'll send her sparring partner to a hospital -- or a morgue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Smith_%28equestrian%29
This guy wrestled on TV once, because he was famous (for horse riding), he was clearly signalling to the other wrestler, who was enough of a pro, though not half so famous, that you couldn't really see the signals going back. I believed wrestling was fake before, but watching that guy really showed how it worked.
Okay, that is something I did not see coming. :smallcool: Not that I mind but... well, good for you.
Though, why did they say they shouldn't meet? Are they actually broke up but can't resist their sexual tension?
also: Subtle, Ruby......
Cikomyr
2016-02-04, 07:53 AM
Gratuitous lesbian make out, with a side order of upper butcrack.
There are worse things to wake up to
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-05, 04:14 AM
Though, why did they say they shouldn't meet? Are they actually broke up but can't resist their sexual tension?
I imagine that the end of the unfinished sentence there was something like "...we wouldn't talk to each other in front of other people." They've just conducted that huge violent break-up in character, and they now have to maintain the illusion, but acting violently hostile in public would be hard work and no fun given that it's the opposite of how they actually feel. So the outline script they've agreed is a huge mutual sulk, and if that means not seeing as much of each other as they'd like for a while, well, that's a cost of doing business.
SaintRidley
2016-02-05, 11:48 AM
Yep. It doesn't happen anymore in the big leagues of pro wrestling, but it's often the case in smaller indies and used to be the case in the whole shebang that heels and faces didn't travel together, hang out, or otherwise interact outside of shows so as not to let outsiders in on the fact that everything's a work - if fans knew, it would expose the business.
The Madison Square Garden Curtain Call incident pretty well ended that for WWE and other big promotions - it got one of the guys punished (one was world champion and couldn't be punished severely, two were literally leaving the company for a rival, so it all fell on the fourth guy, but that's okay, he's now married to the boss's daughter).
Wait... there are still people who believe wrestling is real? :smalltongue:
Okay, I was not aware they actually kept up appearances outside of the ring. I'm not sure how to react to this, though.
The Glyphstone
2016-02-05, 04:10 PM
I don't think anyone actually truly believes wrestling is real anymore, even in indie circuits. Now it's just part of the theater of the whole thing to keep the appearance of kayfabe.
SaintRidley
2016-02-05, 11:37 PM
Smaller promotions often try to keep up the appearances, even if they know the audience all knows it's a work.
It wasn't until 1995, though, that the veil was well and truly pulled back past the point of no return. The steroid scandal of the late 80s and early 90s was an early step in pulling back the veil, and Vince McMahon's testimony about the nature of wrestling as a simulation of a bona fide athletic competition in 1989 (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/wwe-mma-wrestling/historic-moments-in-wrestling-part-6-vince-mcmahon-admits-wrestling-is-predetermined-9461429.html) was a major thing, because it also paved the way for pro wrestling get out of state athletic regulations.
Hm... I mean, as a kid I believed in Wrestling, and for a year or so I was pretty into it. It's been quite a while since I saw any, though. Still, I will very much admit to it's entertainment value, for over-the-top acting and for some physical choreography. So I kind of don't see the point in pretending it to be real, outside of the actual thing. But oh well, whatever floats people's boats.
Oh, also, now we know where the (main) problem lies... I'm sure this can't possibly have any lasting effects. (Though I'm not sure which in this case. btw, is it possible Montr3al has more lesbian than straight citizens? )
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-07, 05:50 AM
In any case, my guess was wrong; they had in fact broken up, but with enough of a soft landing that succumbing to their mutual attraction when they see each other again feels like a silly mistake rather than a personal disaster - and there may also still be some element of "and it makes it easier to preserve kayfabe, too" in the agreement.
Cikomyr
2016-02-11, 03:17 PM
Thats one gigantic pair..
Thats one gigantic pair..
:smallconfused: DiDi's? Is that... news? Or something else.
But really, girls, just drop it on her. She must grow up one of these days.
Also: Not sure if Marie had that epiphany way too late or just in time....
Cikomyr
2016-02-12, 09:34 AM
:smallconfused: DiDi's? Is that... news? Or something else.
But really, girls, just drop it on her. She must grow up one of these days.
I dont know. I just feel like today's really highlighted the absurd size.
Must be the sports bra. I like sports bra
I dont know. I just feel like today's really highlighted the absurd size.
Must be the sports bra. I like sports bra
Well, yeah, DiDi's size varies sometimes between the more and less absurd. But they didn't look that big to me there. Oh well.
So... Roxy vs JLaw. I think I'd watch that :smallbiggrin:
Ruby is... totally relaxed. I wonder if anyone ever talked to her about... relief.
And what. the. hell. Marie?
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-14, 06:12 AM
Ruby is... totally relaxed. I wonder if anyone ever talked to her about... relief.
That's the fundamental problem. People talking to her about relief from stress causes her stress.
And what. the. hell. Marie?
She's young and therefore stupid.
Wraith
2016-02-24, 01:49 AM
I feel like I'm missing a reference in today's comic ("Eat Will Ya"). I mean, Tracy and Jim seemed to have worked things out, so if that's on her mind then I don't see what's stopping her...
....Unless she's suddenly inclined to follow in Senna's footsteps, albeit approaching from the opposite side. I'm... what? :smallconfused:
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-24, 05:03 AM
Insufficient data to determine background. All we know is that Tracy has just weirded Gary out of eating his lunch. Reasons for what she said may become available on Thursday.
Insufficient data to determine background. All we know is that Tracy has just weirded Gary out of eating his lunch. Reasons for what she said may become available on Thursday.
While still nterpolating from incomplete data... it seems her bf refused a bj. THE HORROR! Okay, I guess many people might take it the wrong way but I assumed Tracy to be smarter than this.
Also: Holy effing eff, Ramona just dropped the most stunning reveal in all the series so far, I think.
Cikomyr
2016-02-25, 05:50 PM
While still nterpolating from incomplete data... it seems her bf refused a bj. THE HORROR! Okay, I guess many people might take it the wrong way but I assumed Tracy to be smarter than this.
I think you nailed it.
Pretty immature reaction, IMHO. Things will just weird out people. How about not making a big deal out of it.
Some guys will like getting a Kayne West, others wont. Its the same thing.
The Glyphstone
2016-02-25, 11:58 PM
I knew Jungan would turn out to be a player somehow.
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-26, 04:45 AM
While still nterpolating from incomplete data... it seems her bf refused a bj. THE HORROR! Okay, I guess many people might take it the wrong way but I assumed Tracy to be smarter than this.
She's very upfront about sex, to the point where I suspect it's a big part of her self-image. Having her offer refused, even if James just thought that he was expressing a preference and saving her from a chore, may have felt like a peculiarly severe blow to her self-esteem.
Plus, yeah, she's kind of emotionally flaky. The last time we saw her, she recovered from the consequences of one irrational outburst by engaging in another sort of irrational outburst.
Also: Holy effing eff, Ramona just dropped the most stunning reveal in all the series so far, I think.
Put me down as someone else who always had suspicions about Jung, if he wasn't being written as a total stereotype. He's a cool, snarky geek, but I've known plenty of cool, snarky geeks who had love lives.
The fact that he's evidently a good lover is just flattering the readership.
Thialfi
2016-02-26, 09:59 AM
Wow, that was a quick transition. Ruby went from total freak out to actively considering a plan for her first time in the span of one strip.
Of course we will find out that Andy had something much more innocent in mind with his "next level" comment and wacky hijinks will ensue.
Olinser
2016-02-27, 11:13 PM
Wow, that was a quick transition. Ruby went from total freak out to actively considering a plan for her first time in the span of one strip.
Of course we will find out that Andy had something much more innocent in mind with his "next level" comment and wacky hijinks will ensue.
I mean it's glaringly obvious. This would mark the.... 4th? 5th? time that Andy has said/done something questionable due to confusion or information that was taken out of context.
I'm about 95% sure that the Middle Eastern place they're going to is on the 1st floor of a building, and the 'next level' (as in the 2nd floor) has an ice cream place or something for dessert. (The other 5% is the possibility that the dessert place is actually NAMED 'Next Level' or something like that).
Discus-Spinner
2016-02-28, 07:31 AM
Wow, that was a quick transition. Ruby went from total freak out to actively considering a plan for her first time in the span of one strip.
It's pretty obvious that she really wants to try sex with Andy. She's just nervous and looking for minimal reassurance.
I'm about 95% sure that the Middle Eastern place they're going to is on the 1st floor of a building, and the 'next level' (as in the 2nd floor) has an ice cream place or something for dessert. (The other 5% is the possibility that the dessert place is actually NAMED 'Next Level' or something like that).
Either something like that, or his idea of "taking things to the next level" is taking Ruby home to meet his parents. Cue massively embarrassing misunderstanding.
I also suspect that when they do wind up in bed, he'll thank her for suggesting it.
Cikomyr
2016-03-08, 10:32 PM
Oh god. Okay. I just had to laugh at today's Ma3's comic
Gary continues to have the spine of an unusually floppy invertebrate.
Officer Joy
2016-03-10, 12:21 AM
I'm really surprised by last sandra on the rocks, I had honestly suspected the pretty hitchiker to have run off with a bunsh of her electronics while she was so long in the shower.
Gary continues to have the spine of an unusually floppy invertebrate.
Oh please. Invertebrate have some structure to it. Gary is more like some kind of negative spine man. He'd need to get a spine, just so he can be an invertebrate.
EDIT: How did this thread get to page V? Seriously Unsounded has one thread. And there are more things to discuss there. This comic is the worst thing I've read since Sinfest.
Cikomyr
2016-03-10, 11:35 AM
EDIT: How did this thread get to page V? Seriously Unsounded has one thread. And there are more things to discuss there. This comic is the worst thing I've read since Sinfest.
Because its Fapping Good!
Oh please. Invertebrate have some structure to it. Gary is more like some kind of negative spine man. He'd need to get a spine, just so he can be an invertebrate.
Heh, quite an accurate assessment of Gary's biology. Though, I wonder... didn't he develop a temporary spine at some point?
Anyway, I'm sure he will somehow get out of this without requiring to do a blowjob... the gods are enough in his favor for that. Usually...
the gods are enough in his favor for that. Usually...
You mean what Giiz decides? She's singular, not plural :smalltongue:
I think we're going to see some BJ.
You mean what Giiz decides? She's singular, not plural :smalltongue:
Don't forget Dave Lumsdon is co-writer and Terrence Campbell also provides input.
I think we're going to see some BJ.
I remain uncorrected :smallbiggrin:
This comic is beyond predictable.
Eldan
2016-03-23, 11:27 AM
So, who's actually in there? Because I don't think it's Gary.
So, who's actually in there? Because I don't think it's Gary.
Dillion. Though Gary, tricking Dillion into doing that for him, seems like it will have same consequences.
Dillion. Though Gary, tricking Dillion into doing that for him, seems like it will have same consequences.
So... how? Is Dillon a master of disguise or did he fit into that bag or...? :smallconfused:
My best bet right now is Gary brought a toy he used but not sure if you could tell the difference... I feel you should, even if you never had a bj. Or Gary is a wizard. But he had sex before he turned 30, right?
Also... so, is Zii going to do something evil in SDB or just somehow satisfy her pent up lust?
Discus-Spinner
2016-03-25, 06:38 AM
My best bet right now is Gary brought a toy he used but not sure if you could tell the difference... I feel you should, even if you never had a bj.
Gary was briefed by Amber, who's supposed to be a bit of a technical expert. Also, comedy.
Also... so, is Zii going to do something evil in SDB or just somehow satisfy her pent up lust?
There's no obvious route to the latter, and Zii, who's always been written as impulsively vengeful, would probably regard stitching up the annoying Angel as a way to sublimate her current sense of dissatisfaction. Also, note that "doing something evil" in this case could amount to no more than saying a couple of sentences to Jerzy or Dillon.
Gary was briefed by Amber, who's supposed to be a bit of a technical expert. Also, comedy.
So the secret is revealed... And I have to wonder... don't grapefruits have a hell of a lot of acid? Wouldn't that hurt? :smalleek:
There's no obvious route to the latter, and Zii, who's always been written as impulsively vengeful, would probably regard stitching up the annoying Angel as a way to sublimate her current sense of dissatisfaction. Also, note that "doing something evil" in this case could amount to no more than saying a couple of sentences to Jerzy or Dillon.
Well, I guess... then again, just telling Jerzy wouldn't really be evil, more like... honest. Blackmailing Angel on the other hand.....
SaintRidley
2016-03-26, 09:57 PM
Based on this anecdote (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a6897/grapefruit-blow-job-ahhhh/) in Cosmo, it doesn't seem the acids hurt.
Discus-Spinner
2016-03-27, 06:18 AM
So the secret is revealed... And I have to wonder... don't grapefruits have a hell of a lot of acid? Wouldn't that hurt?
The grapefruit thing appears to be a minor Internet meme at this point. (Proof is left as an exercise for the reader's search engine skills.) Though actually, the technique Amber gave Gary doesn't really correspond to what you can find described online. So this is mostly a geek joke.
Wraith
2016-03-30, 05:37 AM
So the secret is revealed... And I have to wonder... don't grapefruits have a hell of a lot of acid? Wouldn't that hurt? :smalleek:
I've heard a rumour that this is what happens when you bite into a pineapple. The 'fizzing' sensation on your tongue is the acid in the fruit dissolving your skin on a tiny, microscopic scale, which technically makes pineapples carnivorous - try to eat one, and they try to eat you right back! :smallwink::smalltongue:
I have no idea how this applies to grapefruit, but the theory is sound. Certainly true if Gary had improvised and used a different kind of fruit..... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080391/)
The grapefruit thing appears to be a minor Internet meme at this point. (Proof is left as an exercise for the reader's search engine skills.)
I wish I was less curious :smallsigh:
So... Apparently Gary again got nothing but... the thing with Peggy is now a casual relationship? Like, they did that more than once? What the heck are you complaining about, boy?!
Also: I guess SOTR is over. Too bad. It was fun while it lasted.
And... was SDB posted today? Because... that sure seems not like something Jerzy would do... but then, I've been wrong about people in this comic more than once.
Thialfi
2016-04-01, 09:13 AM
Also: I guess SOTR is over. Too bad. It was fun while it lasted.
I wouldn't count on it. They very specifically went from back dating their comics to an on time APRIL 1st. date. This has April fools written all over it.
I wouldn't count on it. They very specifically went from back dating their comics to an on time APRIL 1st. date. This has April fools written all over it.
Sorry, I'm afraid my blant sarcasm wasn't obvious enough :smallredface:
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-02, 06:22 AM
So... Apparently Gary again got nothing but... the thing with Peggy is now a casual relationship? Like, they did that more than once? What the heck are you complaining about, boy?!
If you've seen the print collection bonus strip, you'll know that he may have legitimate grounds for complaint. Not that we've actually seen him complaining.
Edit: In fact, today's strip (which may be considered somewhat NSFW) illustrates the point.
And... was SDB posted today? Because... that sure seems not like something Jerzy would do... but then, I've been wrong about people in this comic more than once.
Jerzy looked sane when he first appeared. Then he turned out to have shaky impulse control and appalling taste in boyfriends. Looking at his on-screen behaviour in total, I don't find this strip overly surprising.
The Glyphstone
2016-04-02, 01:10 PM
Are these scenes actually happening, or are they just Peggie's fantasies?
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-03, 06:07 AM
This comic plays by clear and simple rules on that; if a frame doesn't have crinkly thought-bubble edges, you can assume that it's really happening.
It's a very, very WYSIWYG piece of storytelling. If you start assuming hidden unstated subtleties, you'll soon make an idiot of yourself.
JadedDM
2016-04-03, 04:51 PM
So, uh...is Sonya eating ketchup-flavored potatoes chips? 0_o
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-06, 04:35 AM
Apparently. Which illustrates a curious national division among readers. Canadians go "Oh yeah, okay"; USAans go "Dafug?"; and Brits go "What, not hedgehog flavour?"
Though personally, I prefer sour cream and chives. Anyhow, don't ask me why USAan crisp flavours are apparently terminally boring.
Cikomyr
2016-04-06, 07:05 AM
So, uh...is Sonya eating ketchup-flavored potatoes chips? 0_o
Yhea.. Its one of the standard potatoe chip flavoring. Along with Vinegar, Onion and dills, and a few other i csnt be bothered to look up.
What do you have for chips flavoring in the forsaken land of America?
SaintRidley
2016-04-07, 10:07 AM
The basic chip flavors in the US are regular (salt and vinegar, I believe), sour cream and onion, and barbecue.
There are a lot more, and they can get out there, but those are the standards here.
JadedDM
2016-04-07, 01:20 PM
Oh, so it's a Canadian thing. I thought it was supposed to be some kind of visual gag.
Shogo
2016-04-07, 01:20 PM
Salt and vinegar is its own flavor.
Basic American potato chips come in Original, Sour Cream and Onion, and Barbecue. (Original is just salt. No vinegar.)
We have a lot more flavors than just those three, but they're the big ones.
Man, Gary is fantasizing about his crush's boyfriend thinking of him fantasizing about them and you are talkig about chip flavors... Well, whatever. (Paprika is pretty popular in Germany, besides standard stuff like salt or barbecue)
Cikomyr
2016-04-18, 09:26 PM
I think Gary is now officially 100% bi.
Good for him
The Glyphstone
2016-04-18, 09:32 PM
I think Gary is now officially 100% bi.
Good for him
I think he's just an invertebrate. He doesn't look to actually be enjoying himself there, at least from facial expression.
I think he's just an invertebrate. He doesn't look to actually be enjoying himself there, at least from facial expression.
It's kind of hard to make out but would he really do this if he didn't somewhat enjoy it? Even with his lack of an internal skeleton? I mean... hey, look, Peggy got ripped. And she teaches it to other women. Soon every woman in Ma3real will want to... get ripped. Yay?
I do wonder somewhat if Peggy is only doing what we see them do... doesn't she want to be on the receiving end at least once in a while?
btw... is SDB on hiatus?
I think he's just an invertebrate. He doesn't look to actually be enjoying himself there, at least from facial expression.
He's not spineless. He's just written that way :smalltongue:
JadedDM
2016-04-19, 03:06 PM
btw... is SDB on hiatus?
Yes, until 'sometime in May.' They weren't more specific than that.
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-20, 04:08 AM
It's kind of hard to make out but would he really do this if he didn't somewhat enjoy it? Even with his lack of an internal skeleton? I mean... hey, look, Peggy got ripped. And she teaches it to other women. Soon every woman in Ma3real will want to... get ripped. Yay?
I do wonder somewhat if Peggy is only doing what we see them do... doesn't she want to be on the receiving end at least once in a while?
We saw that Peggy gave Gary a blowjob, and apparently a very good one, and we have no reason to assume that it was a one-off. On past form, Peggy is smart enough to know that you have to give as well as take. So I'm assuming that Gary is doing all this (a) as a favour for a friend and (b) because, yes, she does some stuff that he does really enjoy. But the joke at the moment is about Peggy's new enthusiasm, so - having had the blowjob scene to establish that she's not entirely selfish - that's what we'll see on screen.
Eldan
2016-04-20, 08:44 AM
It's kind of hard to make out but would he really do this if he didn't somewhat enjoy it? Even with his lack of an internal skeleton? I mean... hey, look, Peggy got ripped. And she teaches it to other women. Soon every woman in Ma3real will want to... get ripped. Yay?
I do wonder somewhat if Peggy is only doing what we see them do... doesn't she want to be on the receiving end at least once in a while?
btw... is SDB on hiatus?
Has anyone in Mà3 ever really said that they didn't enjoy any sex act?
Has anyone in Mà3 ever really said that they didn't enjoy any sex act?
I'm pretty sure it would cause a paradox and ergo destruction of the entire Ma3 universe.
Felius
2016-04-21, 06:38 AM
Has anyone in Mà3 ever really said that they didn't enjoy any sex act?
Actually yes. Dii did said she never had an orgasm (until she had lesbian sex). :smalltongue:
And Yuuki, you really didn't need to explain yourself to Gary. Hell, even if you were still together or you owed him anything, you'd still not need to explain himself to him, he doesn't really have enough of a spine for it to actually matter instead of him just accepting whatever it was you decided.
Actually yes. Dii did said she never had an orgasm (until she had lesbian sex). :smalltongue:
And Yuuki, you really didn't need to explain yourself to Gary. Hell, even if you were still together or you owed him anything, you'd still not need to explain himself to him, he doesn't really have enough of a spine for it to actually matter instead of him just accepting whatever it was you decided.
Well, but not having an orgasm is not the same as not enjoying it. But yeah, DiDi did seem disappointed in her previous sex life.
Also, I think it has nothing to do with Gary. Yuki would be embarassed to tell a tree she has sex with Sonya because officially they hate each other, right? It's a dark, dirty secret, not because she tells it to Gary because this kind of means she admits it to herself.
Does anyone else think that at this point, the story is slowly shifting towards Gary and Zii going out with each other?
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-24, 04:22 AM
Frankly, it's been easing toward that so blatantly for a while now that it could be a fake-out, with them never going anywhere.
Though I'm not sure that they're likely to go out so much as stay in.
Cikomyr
2016-04-24, 11:09 PM
..wasn't there a comic once showing "the future", with Yuki and a littlr japanese toddler welcoming Gary home saying " daddy"?
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-25, 03:56 AM
..wasn't there a comic once showing "the future", with Yuki and a littlr japanese toddler welcoming Gary home saying " daddy"?
That was one of the "What if Gary married [X]" bonus strips, in one of the print volumes. (Parts of it may have appeared on the web in advertising.) It's totally non-canonical; those bonus strips also featured future-Gary married to Zii, DiDi, Sonya, Chanelle, Matt...
halfeye
2016-04-25, 06:54 AM
That was one of the "What if Gary married [X]" bonus strips, in one of the print volumes. (Parts of it may have appeared on the web in advertising.) It's totally non-canonical; those bonus strips also featured future-Gary married to Zii, DiDi, Sonya, Chanelle, Matt...
The way this thing goes, maybe all of that is canon? :smallbiggrin:
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-25, 10:17 AM
The way this thing goes, maybe all of that is canon?
Gary would have to be a busy boy. There've been ten different "What if he married [X]" strips.
Gary would have to be a busy boy. There've been ten different "What if he married [X]" strips.
Doesn't the average marriage last 0.5 years or something by now? He could get it done in only five years then :smalltongue:
Also... Yuki discovers "hate sex". Oh my. And Gary... at this point I'm really not sure if any being can have so little spine to go on with this if he doesn't enjoy it.
The Glyphstone
2016-04-26, 10:49 AM
Is it possible to not simply be spineless, but to have negative spine?
Is it possible to not simply be spineless, but to have negative spine?
Yes (http://previews.123rf.com/images/igordabari/igordabari1409/igordabari140900441/31895278-Negative-x-ray-skiagrames-of-the-human-spine-front-and-side-views--Stock-Photo.jpg).
Math checks out.
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-27, 03:19 AM
And Gary... at this point I'm really not sure if any being can have so little spine to go on with this if he doesn't enjoy it.
He's just said he does enjoy it. I'm not sure how much clearer the writers could make it.
He's just said he does enjoy it. I'm not sure how much clearer the writers could make it.
Not by the looks of those images. He looks like he isn't comfortable.
But that would require that Gary has a character. And we all know that ain't true.
He's just said he does enjoy it. I'm not sure how much clearer the writers could make it.
Well, he said it after I asked. Also, as -D- says, there's this concept called lying. And gary is I think the kind of person who lies especially to himself? I'm not totally unwilling to believe he does enjoy it but the look on his face in all the panels is not one of pleasure.
Also: Matt's penis gets touched a lot. I hope people properly wash their hands in ma3real.
Also: Matt's penis gets touched a lot. I hope people properly wash their hands in ma3real.
In Ma3real everyone has HPV.
Discus-Spinner
2016-04-28, 03:55 AM
Generally, Gary seems too short of character to lie about matters of fact to other people - and this comic isn't terribly long on subtle ambiguity at the best of times. But anyway, he's just also said that he finds the MMF threesome stuff uncomfortable; he's not trying to convince Yuki that everything in the garden is lovely. So why should he lie to her about liking the main thing?
Olinser
2016-05-11, 08:03 PM
So in SOTR, it's kind of hard to tell, but it looks like the 'uniform' is Tatiana. I sense a plot to kidnap Yuliya is afoot.
Chromascope3D
2016-05-18, 03:21 PM
L'eaubleu. Lowblow. Nice. Also, I don't think that's quite how French names work. :P
Cikomyr
2016-05-18, 11:32 PM
L'eaubleu. Lowblow. Nice. Also, I don't think that's quite how French names work. :P
Actually, there are some nicknames who ARE english puns said in french. If i think of one anytime soon, ill write it down.
But Didi's Franglais is starting to annoy me. Its so forced. She is waaaay too good at english to use the french words she uses, and she doesnt use them in a logical manner.
Goddamnit, "rapidement" is so much clumsier to say that "fast", or "quick". Or even "rapidly"
But Didi's Franglais is starting to annoy me. Its so forced. She is waaaay too good at english to use the french words she uses, and she doesnt use them in a logical manner.
I'm not sure if/in how far you are bilingual but as a native German who uses a lot of English in his spare time I constantly jump between both, mostly in my head and with people I know it's okay with but often enough also for no reason. Not even because one is easier or shorter but just because it feels right at the moment.
Sidenote: I missed a few updates on SoTR. Uhm... what are they on to start weird undercover stories all of a sudden? And why the eff would Eloise need to crossdress? Is nadine that angry at her? Or just... doesn't think of the complications?
Chromascope3D
2016-05-19, 11:36 AM
Sidenote: I missed a few updates on SoTR. Uhm... what are they on to start weird undercover stories all of a sudden? And why the eff would Eloise need to crossdress? Is nadine that angry at her? Or just... doesn't think of the complications?
I think the answer is simpler than you think...
...they're all morons. :P
Cikomyr
2016-05-19, 12:20 PM
I'm not sure if/in how far you are bilingual but as a native German who uses a lot of English in his spare time I constantly jump between both, mostly in my head and with people I know it's okay with but often enough also for no reason. Not even because one is easier or shorter but just because it feels right at the moment.
I am as Quebecois as Didi, and live in the same city as her.. but also lived abroad in Dubai and England
The Glyphstone
2016-05-19, 04:07 PM
Actually, there are some nicknames who ARE english puns said in french. If i think of one anytime soon, ill write it down.
But Didi's Franglais is starting to annoy me. Its so forced. She is waaaay too good at english to use the french words she uses, and she doesnt use them in a logical manner.
Goddamnit, "rapidement" is so much clumsier to say that "fast", or "quick". Or even "rapidly"
It's almost like the author read your comment or something.
http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/wrestlers_support_each_other
Discus-Spinner
2016-05-20, 03:03 AM
1. I think that the thing with DiDi is that, by her character definition, everything about her has to be stereotypically sexy in some way. And "everyone knows" that French accents are sexy -- so she has to be perpetually manifesting a French "accent" in a blatant way.
(One of her writers is Francophone Quebecois, note, so I'm sure that she could be written with more subtle speech patterns.)
2. The SotR plotlines are repeating a lot of gag ideas at the moment, and it isn't subtle at all, but note that these are gag ideas. Nadine has put Eloise into male drag because it's funny -- at least to Nadine, who to be fair to the writer, is clearly the sort of character who'd do stuff like that for **** and giggles.
(One of her writers is Francophone Quebecois, note, so I'm sure that she could be written with more subtle speech patterns.
Wait, wait, wait. Time out.
This comic has writters? And not just fanfic authors?
Cikomyr
2016-05-20, 03:44 PM
1. I think that the thing with DiDi is that, by her character definition, everything about her has to be stereotypically sexy in some way. And "everyone knows" that French accents are sexy -- so she has to be perpetually manifesting a French "accent" in a blatant way.
(One of her writers is Francophone Quebecois, note, so I'm sure that she could be written with more subtle speech patterns..
Its pretty funny that we (french) consider Italian the language of love seduction.
I really, really dont find Didi's speech attractive in the slightest
Olinser
2016-05-25, 05:03 PM
'Annie Conda'.
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Really? That's where we're at? REALLY?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k1wqciODsC8/maxresdefault.jpg
SaintRidley
2016-05-25, 05:54 PM
It's a better wrestling name than some that have actually been used. I point to Beaver Cleavage as an example.
Benthesquid
2016-06-04, 08:49 AM
It's a better wrestling name than some that have actually been used. I point to Beaver Cleavage as an example.
Or the Undertaker's longtime manager, Paul Bearer.
Cikomyr
2016-06-08, 07:27 AM
Have we ever seen any of these two characters before, beside the wrestling cameo?!
The Glyphstone
2016-06-08, 10:41 AM
I thought the blonde was Amber at first, but apparently not from the tags. So no, these two characters are entirely new unless the tags got mislabeled.
I thought the blonde was Amber at first, but apparently not from the tags. So no, these two characters are entirely new unless the tags got mislabeled.
Well, would be a bit weird... Amber isn't known as a tech geek. But... nice call sign for her boss. Also, kind of a bitch move to use her for tech advice and booty? Oh well, she seems to enjoy it.
Glass Mouse
2016-06-08, 04:14 PM
Have we ever seen any of these two characters before, beside the wrestling cameo?!
Well, Lynn has been imported from Eerie Cuties, just like Didi's new wrestling buddies, but otherwise... I think not?
Discus-Spinner
2016-06-09, 06:08 AM
Also, kind of a bitch move to use her for tech advice and booty? Oh well, she seems to enjoy it.
The second sentence invalidates the first. On current evidence, this looks like a happily functional occasional open relationship on both sides. As for exploiting her tech competence ... well, the technologically competent get used to that.
Olinser
2016-06-09, 04:35 PM
I feel like it's getting more and more obvious that they're going to go to offer Roxie and Moxie a job but DiDi is going to be there and they'll want her to be part of their group. And of course she will be named Foxie.
Which is a shame. She should totally be a solo act with the stage name of the Double D-Structor
The second sentence invalidates the first. On current evidence, this looks like a happily functional occasional open relationship on both sides. As for exploiting her tech competence ... well, the technologically competent get used to that.
But even if you get used to it, isn't it still exploitation? :smalltongue: I wasn't really serious there, though.
I feel like it's getting more and more obvious that they're going to go to offer Roxie and Moxie a job but DiDi is going to be there and they'll want her to be part of their group. And of course she will be named Foxie.
Which is a shame. She should totally be a solo act with the stage name of the Double D-Structor
Well, seems the girls are trying something that will definitely fail... if she want to pass as DiDi, that is. Sorry, girl, no chance, cute as you are.
Discus-Spinner
2016-06-12, 04:54 AM
But even if you get used to it, isn't it still exploitation?
Tech geeks often love showing off their amazing skills. It's a sub-domme sorta thing. "Use me, you big ignorant doofus!" - because the person being used is the one who's really in control.
Only with less leather and more IP protocols, obviously.
Well, seems the girls are trying something that will definitely fail... if she want to pass as DiDi, that is. Sorry, girl, no chance, cute as you are.
I really doubt that they're stupid enough to think that could work. They're running some kind of probe op to find out what Annie/Lynn was up to.
halfeye
2016-06-12, 11:10 AM
Only with less leather and more IP protocols, obviously.
Obviously?:smallbiggrin:
Tech geeks often love showing off their amazing skills. It's a sub-domme sorta thing. "Use me, you big ignorant doofus!" - because the person being used is the one who's really in control.
Only with less leather and more IP protocols, obviously.
Sounds kinky... I always gave away tech advice for free. Maybe I need to try that. :smalltongue:
I really doubt that they're stupid enough to think that could work. They're running some kind of probe op to find out what Annie/Lynn was up to.
Don't forget the average IQ of the people in Ma3real. Maybe she thinks if she just uses a pair of huge, fake breasts...
Discus-Spinner
2016-06-13, 04:22 AM
I always gave away tech advice for free. Maybe I need to try that.
Tech support is like sex and writing. You start out doing it for love, then you do it as a favour for a friend, and in the end you wind up doing it for money.
halfeye
2016-06-13, 10:15 AM
Tech support is like sex and writing. You start out doing it for love, then you do it as a favour for a friend, and in the end you wind up doing it for money.
That's where I did it right then. I don't do tech support.
Tech support is like sex and writing. You start out doing it for love, then you do it as a favour for a friend, and in the end you wind up doing it for money.
Well, I'm on the second stage with writing, and somewhat in the first at the same time. Guess I'll never get to three.
Not good enough at tech support beyond the most basic, though.
Anyway, seems to me they are trying to impersonate DiDi. Now that can't possibly go wrong.
Olinser
2016-06-16, 04:43 PM
Tech geeks often love showing off their amazing skills. It's a sub-domme sorta thing. "Use me, you big ignorant doofus!" - because the person being used is the one who's really in control.
Only with less leather and more IP protocols, obviously.
I really doubt that they're stupid enough to think that could work. They're running some kind of probe op to find out what Annie/Lynn was up to.
Apparently they really are that stupid.
Discus-Spinner
2016-06-17, 05:27 AM
Apparently they really are that stupid.
It does seem that appearing in Ma3 causes a loss of five IQ points per panel for your first ten panels.
It does seem that appearing in Ma3 causes a loss of five IQ points per panel for your first ten panels.
Well, that is quite a drop... do they all start out as geniuses? :smallbiggrin:
The girls' plan works... a little. She will help them, anyway.
Also.. so.. they are not lesbians? I kind of start assuming anyone in Ma3verse is gay or bi... for SOME reason.
Discus-Spinner
2016-06-25, 06:19 AM
Well, that is quite a drop... do they all start out as geniuses?
No, they all end up as Ma3 characters.
(Ruby is the exception to prove the rule; her IQ actually woke up. But she's in SDB.)
I kind of start assuming anyone in Ma3verse is gay or bi... for SOME reason.
Given that the first of the central characters to be introduced remains a broad-minded heterosexual...
No, they all end up as Ma3 characters.
(Ruby is the exception to prove the rule; her IQ actually woke up. But she's in SDB.)
Given that the first of the central characters to be introduced remains a broad-minded heterosexual...
But all characters are still more or less functional adults, so they must be around 80. Which suggest they started at 130 :smallbiggrin:
Well, Ruby also has her moments of confusion... But she still has her business sense intact.
Okay, maybe it should have been "all females..."
Kylie is such a caring therapist... I sure hope this works. I mean, how could it possibly not.
Also: Eva's plan. Hahahahahaha.
The Glyphstone
2016-07-26, 04:52 PM
Aaaand it didn't work. I was hoping it would too, just to get a new plotline out of the void.
But how is Gary holding her up like that when he doesn't have a spine?
Felius
2016-07-30, 10:13 AM
Kylie is such a caring therapist... I sure hope this works. I mean, how could it possibly not.
Well, seems that something has worked, if not in ways one would expect...
halfeye
2016-08-25, 11:59 AM
Given that the first of the central characters to be introduced remains a broad-minded heterosexual...
That's pretty broadminded.
That's pretty broadminded.
More like broad behinded. Seriously, at this point. Gary had more anal sex than most gay characters.
Chromascope3D
2016-08-25, 01:17 PM
So, SotR is back to being my favorite again. :p
Olinser
2016-08-25, 07:05 PM
So, SotR is back to being my favorite again. :p
Not sure why. The story has completely stagnated. At this point 95% of the story can be congealed down to - Sandra gets drunk, does something stupid, Zoe/Domenico fight about Sandra, pointless lesbian innuendo/hijinxs, Sandra gets drunk again, repeat.
A few weeks ago it looked like it MIGHT actually be making story progress, with the whole evil rival going undercover and it looking like they were setting it up for one of them to be crunching on Alex while Marie is trying to finally make her move. Then... they forget about it and Sandra gets drunk and does something stupid. And Zoe and Domenico are going to fight about Sandra again.
Chromascope3D
2016-08-26, 11:38 AM
Not sure why. The story has completely stagnated. At this point 95% of the story can be congealed down to - Sandra gets drunk, does something stupid, Zoe/Domenico fight about Sandra, pointless lesbian innuendo/hijinxs, Sandra gets drunk again, repeat.
A few weeks ago it looked like it MIGHT actually be making story progress, with the whole evil rival going undercover and it looking like they were setting it up for one of them to be crunching on Alex while Marie is trying to finally make her move. Then... they forget about it and Sandra gets drunk and does something stupid. And Zoe and Domenico are going to fight about Sandra again.
Because it's started making me laugh again. :smallwink:
So, SotR is back to being my favorite again. :p
That's like saying, wet tissue paper is more edible than three day old, used bubblegum.
Glass Mouse
2016-08-26, 01:20 PM
Because it's started making me laugh again. :smallwink:
Same. Its particular brand of absurdity tickles my funny bone. And who minds lesbian shenanigans? :smalltongue:
Felius
2016-09-10, 01:34 PM
Okay, Matt did one thing I really did not expected a MA3 character to do. Acted sensibly and bailed out and the sign of the crazy. :smalltongue:
Okay, Matt did one thing I really did not expected a MA3 character to do. Acted sensibly and bailed out and the sign of the crazy. :smalltongue:
Also, refuse sex. CRAZY sex but sex nonetheless. I feel like he was smart but it seems Yuki is just more... motivated now. (But sorry, even you are too busty, Yuki)
Another ressurection attempt...
I'm not sure if this is better or worse Sonya.... but until the jury judges, I'm gonna say you just tricked someone into having violent sex. So that is... not good?
SaintRidley
2016-09-24, 11:23 PM
Well, that's surprisingly smart of Matt.
Discus-Spinner
2016-09-25, 06:51 AM
Matt's always been written as a bright guy. Hopeless impulse control, horrible vanity, but actually one of the two or three smartest characters in the comic. Having him come up with a half-sensible (if somewhat goofy) idea is entirely in character.
Matt's always been written as a bright guy. Hopeless impulse control, horrible vanity, but actually one of the two or three smartest characters in the comic. Having him come up with a half-sensible (if somewhat goofy) idea is entirely in character.
Yeah, it seems to have worked quite well... strange nobody considered it before. So another duo had sex now.... I feel the urge to make a ma3 relationship/sex chart...
Also... dc got much more openly sexual suddenly.
So... I guess we gave up on this?
Last try: Yes, gary is so humble... also, if this was any other story I think this could end well for him. Here? Not so much...
Olinser
2016-10-15, 06:11 PM
So... I guess we gave up on this?
Last try: Yes, gary is so humble... also, if this was any other story I think this could end well for him. Here? Not so much...
Not really gave up, its just there isn't very much to talk about. I feel like the series has just kind of stagnated, with the author not really having any idea where the story is going and kind of flailing around trying to figure out something that works.
halfeye
2016-10-15, 06:13 PM
I sort of like the comic, but its pretty random and there's not much I want to say about it.
Benthesquid
2016-10-28, 04:23 PM
I don't think we've seen any direct evidence of the answer to Tracy's question, but my instinct says... "Not great."
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