View Full Version : Pathfinder Using your own ability score with wands/scrolls?
Elric VIII
2015-09-30, 02:24 PM
Is there a way to do this outside of the magus arcana or magician bard archetype?
Psyren
2015-09-30, 02:31 PM
Yes - the Staff-Like Wand (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-discoveries/arcane-discoveries-paizo/staff-like-wand) Arcane Discovery for Wizards, which means any class can get it via VMC Wizard. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement)
As written it only lets you apply Intelligence, but Alchemists can use wands too.
Crake
2015-09-30, 10:51 PM
I was under the impression you used your own ability score for casting from scrolls already, unless they changed that in pathfinder?
Jack_Simth
2015-09-30, 11:05 PM
I was under the impression you used your own ability score for casting from scrolls already, unless they changed that in pathfinder?
Even in 3.5, you could only do that with a magic staff by default. You had to have a high enough ability score to cast the spell to do it safely from a scroll... but it still used the minimum.
ThinkMinty
2015-10-01, 12:10 AM
Yes - the Staff-Like Wand (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-discoveries/arcane-discoveries-paizo/staff-like-wand) Arcane Discovery for Wizards, which means any class can get it via VMC Wizard. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement)
As written it only lets you apply Intelligence, but Alchemists can use wands too.
With the right wand selection, that makes Wizard more attractive for a spontaneous-or-bust kinda guy like me.
Elric VIII
2015-10-01, 12:53 AM
Yes - the Staff-Like Wand (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-discoveries/arcane-discoveries-paizo/staff-like-wand) Arcane Discovery for Wizards, which means any class can get it via VMC Wizard. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement)
As written it only lets you apply Intelligence, but Alchemists can use wands too.
I could work with that. Thanks for pointing it out.
Garktz
2015-10-01, 05:09 AM
There is a trait, cant look for it right now, that lets you use INT for UMD, and makes it a class skill...
If not found, ill search for it whrn i go back home
Aldrakan
2015-10-01, 01:48 PM
There is a trait, cant look for it right now, that lets you use INT for UMD, and makes it a class skill...
If not found, ill search for it whrn i go back home
I can only find Pragmatic Activator, which lets you use your INT instead of CHAR on Use Magic Device checks, but it doesn't make it a class skill and doesn't affect the spell itself, just whether you succeed on the check
Elric VIII
2015-10-01, 02:23 PM
There is a trait, cant look for it right now, that lets you use INT for UMD, and makes it a class skill...
If not found, ill search for it whrn i go back home
Yeah, Aldrakan is correct. The trait does not give you UMD as a class skill, just lets you use Int instead of Cha. Although it is a complete flavor fail, clever wordplay also lets you use Int instead of Cha for a chosen skill.
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