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ILM
2015-10-07, 12:05 PM
Without stacking Leadership.

The only option I can think of is Pale Master 10 (and time). Anything else?

Demidos
2015-10-07, 12:29 PM
Animate Dread Warrior is the only one that comes to mind.

Master of Shrouds gets you access to undead that can multiply limitlessly (shadows/Wraiths/etc).

Chaining Command Undead comes close (you can go up to thousands of HD at even low levels), but is not true limitless.

Psyren
2015-10-07, 12:33 PM
Just create something that can make spawn - you control them, they control their children.

Heck, you don't even need to be a spellcaster - just become a vampire or something (with your allies nearby to gank him once he turns you and get your free will back.)

Flickerdart
2015-10-07, 01:15 PM
Vampires are the worst to use if all you want is unlimited minions, since they have an HD cap on how many they can have. But enslave a single shadow or wight, and you can use it to control unlimited minions.

Fun fact: While most creatures have rules about what must happen for them to turn corpses into spawn, wights have no such condition. Any creature killed by a wight, regardless of method, becomes a wight.

Rubik
2015-10-07, 01:26 PM
Vampires are the worst to use if all you want is unlimited minions, since they have an HD cap on how many they can have. But enslave a single shadow or wight, and you can use it to control unlimited minions.

Fun fact: While most creatures have rules about what must happen for them to turn corpses into spawn, wights have no such condition. Any creature killed by a wight, regardless of method, becomes a wight.Kill a chicken via negative levels? Wight.

An Evil chicken picks up a holy avenger in its beak? Wight.

A chicken got hit in a wight's crossfire? Wight.

Chicken: The other wight meat.