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Alistaroc
2015-10-15, 02:46 PM
I think it'd be interesting to create a Sybil, from Savage Species, but it requires, "an innate spell-like divination ability."

What races have this, preferably with minimum RHD and LA. LA is preferable to LA, as we use LA Buyoff.

The example uses a Lillend, but they're ECL 13. :smallannoyed:

Nifft
2015-10-15, 03:23 PM
Kobold solves everything (as usual).

Their Rite of Draconic Passage gives any 1st level Sorc/Wiz spell as a spell-like ability, 1/day. Choose one which is of the Divination school. Done.

ranagrande
2015-10-15, 03:28 PM
The most basic is the PHB Gnome.

Speak With Animals is an innate spell-like divination ability.

kopout
2015-10-15, 03:28 PM
If your willing/able to use pathfinder stuff the Changeling has an alternate racial ability called hag magic which can give them a zeroth or first level spell like ability from the witch's spell list. Pick up detect magic for example, or comprehend languages.

Thurbane
2015-10-15, 07:23 PM
Wouldn't Human (or anything else) with the Insightful feat qualify?

WhamBamSam
2015-10-15, 08:56 PM
If your willing/able to use pathfinder stuff the Changeling has an alternate racial ability called hag magic which can give them a zeroth or first level spell like ability from the witch's spell list. Pick up detect magic for example, or comprehend languages.


Kobold solves everything (as usual).

Their Rite of Draconic Passage gives any 1st level Sorc/Wiz spell as a spell-like ability, 1/day. Choose one which is of the Divination school. Done.Changelings can also undergo the Draconic Rite of Passage with Racial Emulation.

Lesser Deepwyrm Drow and Deepwyrm Half-Drow have SLA Detect Magic. Spirit Folk have Speak With Animals, like Gnomes do.

Some of this depends on what exactly counts as "innate." It's not a term that's really defined anywhere. The Draconic Rite seems like it should count, but it is one step away from being a real Racial SLA. Similarly, Sorcerous power are "innate" fluffwise, but does a character with a SLA from the Dragonblood Sorcerer 4 sub-level count as "innate" for qualification purposes?

Sybil is kinda an awkward class to play though. It doesn't really do PC things. It works much better as an NPC.

Crake
2015-10-16, 02:12 AM
Kobold solves everything (as usual).

Their Rite of Draconic Passage gives any 1st level Sorc/Wiz spell as a spell-like ability, 1/day. Choose one which is of the Divination school. Done.

The Draconic Rite seems like it should count, but it is one step away from being a real Racial SLA.

The benefits of the rite of draconic passage is something you acquire, thus making it, by it's very nature, not innate.

WhamBamSam
2015-10-16, 09:16 AM
The benefits of the rite of draconic passage is something you acquire, thus making it, by it's very nature, not innate.Except you acquire it by searching within yourself and "finding the dragon within" or however you want to describe it. It was a part of the kobold all along, they just had to realize it.

See what I mean? In absence of a good game definition for "innate" we're operating in something of a grey area.

Nifft
2015-10-16, 09:21 AM
The benefits of the rite of draconic passage is something you acquire, thus making it, by it's very nature, not innate.
1 - "Its", not "it's". The difference is not even subtle in this case. You're pedant-posting while making basic grammar errors, it's not a good look.

2 - The Rite of Draconic Passage can only be performed by Kobolds. It is only due to an innate quality of the character that the rite can be performed.

You can house-rule that a kobold's innate spell-like ability is not ~sufficiently~ innate, but by the game's rules -- and the definition of the word -- it qualifies.

Inevitability
2015-10-16, 11:32 AM
Kobold solves everything (as usual).

Their Rite of Draconic Passage gives any 1st level Sorc/Wiz spell as a spell-like ability, 1/day. Choose one which is of the Divination school. Done.

I recommend Identify. It gets rid of the annoying 100 GP cost and the spell will be really useful in many campaigns.

Nifft
2015-10-16, 11:36 AM
I recommend Identify. It gets rid of the annoying 100 GP cost and the spell will be really useful in many campaigns.

Yeah, that's a great pick for that slot.

It's really too bad there aren't more level 1 spells with XP and GP components.

Alistaroc
2015-10-16, 06:31 PM
Kobold solves everything (as usual).

Their Rite of Draconic Passage gives any 1st level Sorc/Wiz spell as a spell-like ability, 1/day. Choose one which is of the Divination school. Done.
Interesting, I rather like this idea.:smallsmile:

The most basic is the PHB Gnome.

Speak With Animals is an innate spell-like divination ability.
Eh. A gnome prophet? I could se it being funny, but not so cool.

Wouldn't Human (or anything else) with the Insightful feat qualify?
That looks beautiful. Thank you!:smallbiggrin:

Bonus points if anyone has ideas on race or templates with the same... "feel" as a Lillend. :smallsmile:

Tryxx
2015-10-16, 07:34 PM
There's also Zenythri from MMII who have True Strike if you need another option.

Thurbane
2015-10-16, 07:40 PM
Bonus points if anyone has ideas on race or templates with the same... "feel" as a Lillend. :smallsmile:

Yuan-ti with Winged template? :smalltongue: