Alternative ways to get new Class skills

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Originally posted on the WOTC boards by Griff on Dec 03, 2006
Continued by Bullet06320 and GitP Community

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Ever wished you had a certain skill on your class list?

Here is a compiled list of feats, domains and other stuff that grant you class skills from various official sources


Any
Cosmopolitan - FRCS - Choose any 1 nonexclusive skill you do not have as a class skill, it is always a class skill. It was Nerfed in PGtF
Aereni Focus - PGtE p 20
Skill knowledge - UA (for use with UA Variant skill system)
Flexible Mind (Anarchic) - Dragon 326 p 80 must be chaotic, any 2 skills you already have ranks in become class skills
Academy Graduate - Savage Tide Player's Guide Location: Sasserine (http://paizo.com/dungeonissues/SavageTide/SavageTide_HR.pdf) p 10 have "District Feats" Must be from Sasserine Noble District choose any 3 Cha or any 3 Intel based skills

Appraise
Apprentice (craftsman) - DMG II also Knowledge (arch & eng)
Draconic heritage (Type) – RoD (sorcerer only)
Appraise Magic - online (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sg/20051125a)

Autohynosis
Hypnotic Focus(General) - Dragon 349 p 88

Balance
Martial Study (Iron heart/stone dragon) - ToB

Bluff
Apprentice (criminal) - DMG II - also Gather Information
Greensinger initiate - ECS - also Bluff, Perform (druid only)
Draconic heritage (Type) - RotD - sorcerer only
Initiate of Aasterinian - Dragon Magic - also Disguise, Speak Language, Sleight of Hand - cleric only

Climb
Far horizons [initiate] – RotD - also Jump, Swim - cleric only

Concentration
Apprentice (martial artist) - DMG II also tumble
Draconic Heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Martial Study (diamond mind) – ToB
Born Under a Setting Sun - Dragon 340 p 48

Diplomacy
Apprentice (entertainer) - DMG II - also Perform
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Martial Study (white raven) – ToB
Noble Born (General) Dragon 333 p 45 - also Knowledge (nobility & royalty) only at 1st level
Recognized Elder - Dragon 334 - also Knowledge (history)

Disable Device
Initiate of Gond - PGtF - also Open lock - cleric only
Initiate of Astilabor - Dragon Magic - also Open Lock, Search - cleric only

Disguise
Draconic heritage (Type) - RotD - sorcerer only
City Slicker – RoD - also Forgery, Gather Information, Knowledge (local)
Initiate of Aasterinian -Dragon Magic - also Bluff, Speak Language, Sleight of Hand - cleric only

Escape Artist
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Slippery – Behind the Screen: The Agony of the Feat, Building a Campaign Story Arc, Part 3 (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/bs/20040725a) bullywug or siv only

Forgery
City Slicker – RoD - also Forgery, Gather Information, Knowledge (local)

Gather Information
Apprentice (criminal) - DMG II - also Bluff
Ecclesiarch – ECS - also Knowledge (local)
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
City Slicker – RoD - also Disguise, Forgery, Knowledge (local)
Initiate of Lendys - Dragon Magic - also Sense Motive cleric only
Initiate of Olidammara [initiate] - Dragon 342 p 51 - also Sleight of Hand, Tumble - divine spellcaster only

Handle Animal
Initiate of Ehlonna [initiate] - Dragon 342 p 50 - also Survival - divine spellcaster only

Heal
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Self-medicating (General) - Dragon 354 p 55 - Must have Wedded to History with survivor background (from the same article)

Hide
Greensinger initiate – ECS - also Bluff, Perform - druid only
Draconic heritage (Type) - RotD - sorcerer only
Martial Study (shadow hand) – ToB
Nightbringer Initiate - FoE= (Nongood alignment) also Move Silently - druid only

Intimidate
Apprentice (soldier) - DMG II - also Knowledge (local)
Martial Study (devoted sprit) – ToB
Dread Tyranny [initiate] – RoD - cleric only
Initiate of Tiamat - Dragon Magic - cleric only
Dread Tyranny [initiate] - RoD - can also add Str to the skill check
Illithid Heritage - CPs p 61-2 - must have a power point reserve of 1 or more

Jump
Far horizons [initiate] – RoD - also Climb, Swim - cleric only
Martial Study (Tiger claw) – ToB

Knowledge (All)
Education – ECS, FRCS, PGtF, Ghostwalk - only at first level
Draconic Knowledge (requires Draconic heritage) - Dragon Magic
Well Read - Dragon 315 p 54

Knowledge (Any)
Knowledge Devotion - Complete Champion - require 5 ranks in Knowledge (any) but grants any 1 other
Apprentice (philosopher) - DMG II - also Sense Motive
Apprentice (spellcaster) - DMG II - also use magic device
Any of Geography, History, Local, Religion, or the Planes: Dderywd Chymdeithas Initiate - Dragon 332 - Druid only

Knowledge (arcana)
Arcane insight – RoD - cleric only

Knowledge (architecture & engineering)
Apprentice (craftsman) - DMG II - also Appraise

Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Draconic Heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only

Knowledge (history)
Recognized Elder - Dragon 334 - also Diplomacy

Knowledge (local)
Apprentice (soldier) - DMG II - also intimidate
Ecclesiarch – ECS - also Gather information
City Slicker – RoD - also Disguise, Forgery, Gather Information
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD sorcerer only

Knowledge (nature)
Apprentice (woodsman) - DMG II also survival

Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Noble Born - Dragon 333 p 45 - also Diplomacy only at first level

Knowledge (the planes)
Keeper of forbidden lore [abyssal heritor] - FC1 - also Spellcraft
Gatekeeper initiate – ECS - Druid only

Knowledge (religion)
Bronze Solaris Member - Dragon 334 - sorcerer only

Listen
Draconic Heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Whispered Secrets [initiate] – RoD - also Spot - cleric only

Move Silently
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Nightbringer Initiate - FoE - (Nongood alignment) adds Hide - druid only

Open Lock
Initiate of Gond – PGtF - also Disable Device - cleric only
Initiate of Astilabor - Dragon Magic - also Disable Device, Search - cleric only

Perform
Apprentice (entertainer) - DMG II - also Diplomacy
Greensinger initiate – ECS - also Bluff, Hide - druid only
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Divine Inspiration - Dragon 333 p 85
Hymnist - Dragon 325 p 62

Profession
Sailor: Seafarer - Dragon 337 - also Survival

Search
Draconic Heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Initiate of Astilabor -Dragon Magic - also Disable Device, Open Lock - cleric only

Sense Motive
Apprentice (philosopher) - DMG II - also a Knowledge
Martial Study (setting sun) – ToB
Initiate of Lendys - Dragon Magic - also Gather Information - cleric only

Sleight Of Hand
Initiate of Aasterinian -Dragon Magic - also Bluff, Disguise, Speak Language - cleric only
Initiate of Olidammara [initiate] - Dragon 342 p 51 - also Gather Information,Tumble - divine spellcaster only

Speak Language
Gift of tongues – RoF - elf only
Initiate of Aasterinian -Dragon Magic - also Bluff, Disguise, Sleight of Hand - cleric only
Mercenary Background - Dragon 315 p 54
Multilingual - LEoF
Polyglot - Dragon 323 p 90

Spellcraft
Keeper of Forbidden lore [abyssal heritor] - FC1 - also knowledge (the planes)

Spot
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Whispered secrets [initiate] – RoD - also Listen - cleric only

Survival
Nature: Apprentice (woodsman) - DMG II - also Knowledge (nature)
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Initiate of Ehlonna [initiate] - Dragon 342 p 50 - also Handle Animal divine spellcaster only
Seafarer - Dragon 337 - also Profession: Sailor

Swim
Draconic heritage (Type) – RotD - sorcerer only
Far horizons [initiate] – RoD - Climb, Jump, and Swim - cleric only

Truespeak
Truename Training - ToM

Tumble
Apprentice (martial artist) - DMG II - also Concentration
Martial Study (desert wind) – ToB
Initiate of Olidammara [initiate] - Dragon 342 p 51 - also Gather Information, Sleight of Hand - divine spellcaster only

Use Magic Device
Apprentice (spellcaster) - DMG II - also a Knowledge
Wedded to History - Dragon 354 p 54 - with the "Golden Ager" background only at 1st level.

also honorable mentions go to:
Able learner - RoD (human doppleganger changling only) makes cross class ranks cost less.

Jack of all Trades - CAdv
Half a rank in every skill.. including trained only..

Elf Dilettante - RotW - +1 bonus on all untrained skill checks, allows untrained checks using skills that do not allow untrained use

Ancestral Wisdom (Divine) - FoE - spend a Turn Undead Attempt you get a +4 sacred bonus to any one skill, and treat it as trained in that skill and can take 10 even if rushed for a limited time.

Of Special Note

Initiate of Shar - City of Splendors: Waterdeep pg 144-5 - adds bluff and hide and several spells, must be able to cast 1st level divine spells and patron deity Shar according to the text on pg 145.
Now according to the table on p 144, you add Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (dungeoneering), several new spells, must be Blackguard level 1 or cleric level 3 with patron deity Shar.

And it should be noted that according to the primary source rule, text trumps table, so the text version should be used.

Initiate of Shar was also printed in Champions of Ruin, and there both text and table agreed on Bluff/Hide and prerequisites.

Although this might well be considered invalid since Champions of Ruin was from May 2005, and City of Splendors: Waterdeep is from July 2005

Kingdoms of Kalamar

Skill Prodigy - Kingdoms of Kalamar: Player's Guide - a feat, which gives you class skills equal to your int mod every time you take it

Scholar - Kingdoms of Kalamar: Player's Guide - all knowledge skills and a bonus on 3 and does not need to be taken at 1st level


Kingdoms of Kalamar was licensed for D&D 3.0, but not for 3.5
But it was updated to 3.5 here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG5_feats.pdf) and here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG2_classes.pdf).




Appraise
Commerce - ECS p 105
Pact - SC also Intimidate, Sense Motive
Wealth - SC

Autohypnosis
Gem Dragon - Dragon 344 p 107 - also Knowledge (psionics), Psicraft

Bluff
Baator [planar] - SC
Dragon - SC - also Intimidate
Envy - SC
Trickery - PHB - also Disguise, Hide

Disable Device
Kobold - here http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a also Search

Disguise
Trickery - PHB also Bluff, Hide

Gather Information
City - RoD 162-3 - also Knowledge (local)

Hide
Trickery - PHB - also Bluff, Disguise

Intimidate
Abyss [planar] - SC
Dragon - SC - also Bluff
Herald - BOED
Pact - SC - also Appraise, Sense Motive

Knowledge (all)
Knowledge - PHB

Knowledge (nature)
Animal - PHB
Plant - PHB

Knowledge (local)
City - RoD 162-3 also Gather Information

Knowledge (psionics)
Gem Dragon - Dragon 344 p 107 - also Autohypnosis, Psicraft

Psicraft
Gem Dragon - Dragon 344 p 107 - also Autohypnosis, Knowledge (psionics)

Search
Kobold - here http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a also Disable device

Sense Motive
Celestia [planar] - SC
Pact - SC - also Appraise, Intimidate
Hashalaq Ancestor - PGtE - Kalashtar only

Spot
Sky - RotW p 174

Survival
Arborea [planar] - SC
Travel - PHB
Weather - ECS p 108



Autohypnosis
Kalashtar Monk Substitution Levels - RoE p 124 - also Knowledge (psionics)

Balance
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - RoE p 126 - also Climb, Jump
Shifter Ranger Substitution Levels - RoE p 128
Elf Ranger Substitution Levels - RotW

Bluff
Zhentarim Soldier Fighter Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) also Diplomacy
Tiefling Incarnate Substitution Levels - MoI p 48 - also Hide
Changeling Egoist Substitution Levels - RoE p 121 - also Disguise
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - RoE p 123 - also Disguise, Sleight of Hand
half-elf bard Substitution Levels - RoD - also Diplomacy, Sense Motive
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - RoD - also Diplomacy, Sense Motive
Ruby Rose Knight (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 49 - also Perform (dance, oratory, sing, string instruments)
Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") also Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive

Climb
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - RoE p 126 - also Balance, Jump
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - MoI p 46 - also Hide, Jump, Move Silently
Halfling Druid - RotW - also Hide, Jump, Move Silently

Concentration
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Craft, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Craft
Warforged Fighter Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Intimidate
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Concentration, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Diplomacy
Zhentarim Soldier Fighter Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) also Bluff
Aasimar Incarnate Substitution Levels - MoI p 42
Fangshields Ranger Substitution Levels - CoV p 41 - nonhumanoid only
half-elf bard - RoD - also Bluff, Sense Motive
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - RoD - also Bluff, Sense Motive
Blood of Eberron Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Handle animal, Heal, Knowledge (nature)
Blood of Siberys Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Knowledge (the planes)
Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive

Disable Device
Ranger Trap Expert ACF - Dungeonscape p 12

Disguise
Changeling Egoist Substitution Levels - RoE p 121 - also Bluff
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - RoE p 124 - also Knowledge (the planes), Perform
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - RoE p 123 - also Bluff, Sleight of Hand

Gather Information
half-elf ranger Substitution Levels - RoD - also Sense Motive
Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") also Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, Sense Motive
Skilled City-Dweller (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a) replaces Handle Animal

Handle Animal
Blood of Eberron Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Diplomacy, Heal, Knowledge (nature)

Heal
Broken one Monk substitution Levels - CoV p 36 - also Survival
Blood of Eberron Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Knowledge (nature)

Hide
Gnome Incarnate Substitution Levels - MoI p 46
Tiefling Incarnate Substitution Levels - MoI p 48 - also Bluff
Shadow Cloak Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) also Move Silently - Gnome only
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - MoI p 46 - also Climb, Jump, Move Silently
Halfling Druid - RotW - also Climb, Jump, Move Silently
Illusionist variant - Shadow Shaper (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#shadowShaper)

Intimidate
Warforged Fighter Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Craft
Skarn Monk Substitution Levels - MoI p 47
Kalashtar Telepath Substitution Levels - RoE p 125
half-orc druid Substitution Levels - RoD
half-orc paladin Substitution Levels - RoD - replace Diplomacy
Blood of Khyber Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") also Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Sense Motive

Jump
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - RoE p 126 - also Balance, Climb
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - MoI p 46 -also Climb, Hide, Move Silently
Halfling Druid - RotW - also Climb, Hide, Move Silently

Knowledge (any one, chosen at 1st level)
Changeling Rogue Substitution Levels - RoE p 122

Knowledge (arcana)
Dragonborn Paladin Substitution Levels - RotD
Mystic Fire Knight (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 45 - also spellcraft
Shooting Star (Ranger Substitution Levels) - CoV p 50 - also spellcraft
Shadow Soulknife Umbragen Racial Substitution Levels - Dragon 330 p 46 - replaces Knowledge (psionics) with Knowledge (arcana). also Knowledge (dungeoneering), Survival
Paladin Domains Substitution Level- Dragon 328 p 90 - also Spellcraft
Favored Soul Knowledge Specialty (Ex) (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/cwc/20070227x) or Knowledge (religion)

Knowledge (architecture & engineering)
Dwarf Rogue Substitution Levels - Dragon 338 p 96

Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Dwarf Soulborn Substitution Levels - MoI p 44
Kobold Rogue Substitution Levels - RotD
Dwarf Cleric Substitution Levels - RoS
Dwarf Fighter Substitution Levels - RoS
Dwarf Sorcerer Substitution Levels - RoS
Relic Hunter (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 p 89 - also Search
Blood of Khyber Sorcerer substitution level -Dragon 351 p 79 - also Intimidate
Shadow Soulknife Umbragen Racial Substitution Levels - 330 p 46 - also Survival, replace Knowledge (psionics) with Knowledge (arcana)

Knowledge (geography)
Wanderer (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 p 89 - also gains Knowledge (local), Speak Language, Survival

Knowledge (history)
Red Falcon (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 48
Shadow Sword (Ranger Substitution Levels) -CoV p 49

Knowledge (local)
Wanderer (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 p 89 - also Knowledge (geography), Speak Language, Survival
Skilled City-Dweller (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a) replace Knowledge (nature)

Knowledge (local-Impiltur)
Crescent Moon Knight (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 37

Knowledge (nature)
Goliath Barbarian Substitution Levels - RoS
Lion Legionnaire (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 44
Blood of Eberron Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Diplomacy, Handle animal, Heal

Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Concentration, Craft, Profession, Ride

Knowledge (psionics)
Kalashtar Monk Substitution Levels - RoE p 124 - also Autohypnosis

Knowledge (religion)
Favored Soul Knowledge Specialty (Ex) (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/cwc/20070227x) or Knowledge (arcana)

Knowledge (the planes)
Duskling Barbarian Substitution Levels - MoI p 43
Planar Barbarian Substitution Levels - PlH p 28
Planar Druid Substitution Levels - PlH p 31
Planar Fighter Substitution Levels - PlH p 32
Planar Monk (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040706a&page=2) Substitution Levels - PlH p 32
Planar Paladin Substitution Levels - PlH p 33
Planar Ranger Substitution Levels - PlH p 34
Planar Rogue Substitution Levels - PlH p 34
Planar Sorcerer Substitution Levels - PlH p 35
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - RoE p 124 - also Disguise, Perform
Holy Judge (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 44
Hunter of Fiends (Paladin Substitution Levels) - Dragon 349 p 93 - also Survival, Knowledge(the planes) lose Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Blood of Siberys Sorcerer substitution level - Dragon 351 p 79 - also Diplomacy

Listen
Wary Swordknight Paladin Substitution Levels - CoV p 51 - also Spot - halfling only

Move Silently
Shadow Cloak Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) also Hide - Gnome only
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - MoI p 46 - also Climb, Hide, Jump
Halfling Druid - RotW - also Climb, Hide, Jump

Perform
Harmonious Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a)
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - RoE p 124 also Disguise, Knowledge (the planes)
Darksong Knight (Fighter Substitution Levels) - CoV p 38 - adds Perform Dance
Ruby Rose Knight (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 49 - adds Perform (dance, oratory, sing, and string instruments) also Bluff

Profession
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Concentration, Craft, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Ride

Profession (miner)
kobold fighter - RotD - also Search

Profession (siege engineer)
added to the Marshal (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b) class list - Dragon 348 p 92

Ride
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - RoE p 130 - also Concentration, Craft, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Search
Elf Soulborn Substitution Levels - MoI p 45 - also Spot
Kobold Fighter Substitution Levels - RotD - also Profession (miner)
Elf Wizard Substitution Levels - RotW
Relic Hunter (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 p 89 - also Knowledge (dungeoneering)

Sense Motive
Diviner Variant - Enhanced Awareness (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#divinerVariants)
Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") also Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate
half-elf bard Substitution Levels - RoD - also Diplomancy, Bluff
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - RoD - also Bluff, Diplomacy
half-elf ranger Substitution Levels - RoD - also Gather Information
Skilled City-Dweller (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a) replace Survival

Sleight of Hand
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - RoE p 123 - also Bluff, Disguise

Speak Language
Rilkan Rogue Substitution Levels - MoI p 47
Voice of the City ACF - Druid, ranger, spirit shaman http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a
Wanderer (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 pg 89 - also Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (local), Survival

Spellcraft
Erudite Convert Spell to Power ACF (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a)
Mystic Fire Knight(Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 45 - also Knowledge (arcana)
Shooting Star (Ranger Substitution Levels) - CoV p 50 - also Knowledge (arcana)
Paladin Domains Substitution Level - Dragon 328 p 90 - "Magic Domain" also Knowldege (arcana)

Spot
Elf Soulborn Substitution Levels - MoI p 45 - also Search
Wary Swordknight Paladin Substitution Levels - CoV p 51 - also Listen - halfling only

Survival
Golden Hands of Vergadain Rogue Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) dwarf only
Shifter Wilder Substitution Levels - RoE p 129
Goliath Rogue Substitution Levels- RoS
Broken one Monk Substitution Levels - CoV p 36 - also Heal
Noble Heart (Paladin Substitution Levels) - CoV p 46
Hunter of Fiends (Paladin Substitution Levels) - Dragon 349 p 93 - also Survival, Knowledge (the planes). lose Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Wanderer (Cleric ACF) - Dragon 353 p 89 - also Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (local), Speak Language
Elf Paladin Substitution Levels - RotW
Shadow Soulknife Umbragen Racial Substitution Levels - Dragon 330 p 46 - also Knowledge (dungeoneering). Replace Knowledge (psionics) with Knowledge (arcana)

Swim
Dukar Wizard Substitution Levels - CoV p 38

Tumble
Skilled City-Dweller (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a) replace Ride

Use Magic Device
Dragonblood Sorcerer Substitution Levels - RotD - lose Craft, Profession



Any
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - Add Perform, Sense Motive, and any 2 other skills. Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local)

Appraise
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Profession (sailor), Spot, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate.

Balance
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Appraise, Profession (sailor), Spot, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate.
Horseman (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Tumble lose Climb, Intimidate, Swim
Kensai (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Concentration, Tumble. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate
Survivalist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Hide, Move Silently, Survival, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Ride

Bluff
Thug (Fighter) (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Gather Information, Knowledge (local), Sleight of Hand.
Paladin of Freedom (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Replace Diplomacy
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 pg 30 - also Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Deathwalker (Wizard) - Dragon 312 - Replace Decipher Script
Fencer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Gather Information. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim.
Pugilist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Sense Motive, Spot. lose Craft, Handle Animal, Jump
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive
Anarch (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Disable Device, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Ride
Despot (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Intimidate, Search. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Ride
Avenger (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), Move Silently. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride
Corrupter (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Disguise, Forgery, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Climb
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive

Concentration
Kensai (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Tumble. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate

Decipher Script
Cloistered Cleric (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Speak Language, all Knowledge skills (from Knowledge domain)

Diplomacy
Bodyguard (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Gather Information, Search, Sense Motive, Spot. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim.
Commander (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive, Spot. lose Climb, Jump, Swim.
Shield Bearer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - lose Swim
Thane (Fighter) - Dragon 323 p 96 - Replace Intimidate
Knight (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - Replace Intimidate, add heal
Fencer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Gather Information. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim.

Disable Device
Anarch (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Ride

Disguise
Corrupter (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Forgery, Hide, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Forgery
Corrupter (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Disguise, Hide, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Gather Information
Thug (Fighter) (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Bluff, Knowledge (local), Sleight of Hand.
Urban Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Knowledge (local), and Sense Motive. lose Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (dungeoneering), Survival
Evangelist (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - lose Knowledge (history) and Knowledge (the planes)
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Bodyguard (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Search, Sense Motive, Spot. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim.
Urban Ranger - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (local). loses Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature)
Filidh (Wizard) - Dragon 324 p 90 - also Intimidate, Sense Motive, Survival. lose Profession
Fencer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Diplomacy. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim
Enforcer (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Intimidate, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Handle Animal
Wilderness Rogue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Also Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature), Ride, and Survival. lose Appraise, Diplomacy, Decipher Script, Forgery, Gather Information
Crusader (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Knowledge (arcana), Intimidate. lose Knowledge (the planes), Diplomacy

Heal
Knight (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - Replace Intimidate with Diplomacy
Fleshcrafter (Wizard) - Dragon 312 - lose Decipher Script, Profession

Hide
Survivalist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Move Silently, Survival, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Ride
Targetteer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Move Silently, Profession. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, Swim
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Climb, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive
Avenger (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), Move Silently. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride
Corrupter (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Disguise, Forgery, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Intimidate
Paladin of Slaughter (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Replaces Diplomacy
Druidic Avenger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) lose Diplomacy
Battle Sorcerer (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) lose Bluff
Crusader (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Knowledge (arcana) and Handle Animal. lose Knowledge (the planes) and Diplomacy
Wild Reaper (Druid) - Dragon 311
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Martial Monk- Dragon 310 - Replace Knowledge skills
Filidh (Wizard) - Dragon 324 p 90 - also Gather Information, Sense Motive, Survival. lose Profession
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Climb, Hide, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive
Despot (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Search. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Ride
Enforcer (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Gather Information, Knowledge (history). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Jump
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (the planes), Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive

Knowledge (all)
Cloistered Cleric (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Speak Language, and all Knowledge skills (from Knowledge domain)

Knowledge (any)
Janissary (Fighter) -Dragon 334 p 88 - Adds any 2 Knowledge skills and Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate and Swim

Knowledge (arcana)
Arcane Disciple (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Use Magic Device
Aspirant (Cleric) - Dragon 311
Benevolent (Cleric) - Dragon 311
Crusader (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Handle Animal and Intimidate. lose Knowledge (the planes), Diplomacy
Sidhe Scholar (Druid) Dragon 339 p 90
Wyrmslayer (Paladin) - Dragon 332 p 90 - Replaces Knowledge (nobility & royalty)

Knowledge (architecture & engineering)
Metal Master (Druid) - Dragon 311 - also Knowledge (dungeoneering). lose Handle Animal.
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Commander (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive, Spot. lose Climb, Jump, Swim.
Anarch (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Disable Device, Intimidate, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Ride

Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Metal Master (Druid) - Dragon 311 - also Knowledge (architecture & engineering). lose Handle Animal.

Knowledge (geography)
Wilderness Rogue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Also Handle Animal, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Survival. lose Appraise, Diplomacy, Decipher Script, Forgery, Gather Information
Winter Warden (Druid) - Dragon 311

Knowledge (history)
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (local), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Enforcer (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Gather Information, Intimidate. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride
Corrupter (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Disguise, Forgery, Hide. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession

Knowledge (local)
Thug (Fighter) (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm)also Bluff, Gather Information, Sleight of Hand.
Urban Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) , also Gather Information, Sense Motive. lose Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (dungeoneering), Survival
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local). Add Perform, Sense Motive, any 2 other skills
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Perform, Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Urban Ranger - Dragon 310 - also Gather Information. lose Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature)
Avenger (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Move Silently. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Knowledge (nature)
Wilderness Rogue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Also Handle Animal, Knowledge (geography), Ride, Survival. lose Appraise, Diplomacy, Decipher Script, Forgery, Gather Information
Wild Monk - Dragon 324 p 97 - also Survival. Lose Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perform, Sense Motive
Incarnate (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Listen, Sense Motive, Survival. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty)

Knowledge (the planes)
Planar Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Speak Language (Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Ignan, Infernal, Terran)Eliminate Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive
Sentinel (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Listen, Search, Spot, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Listen
Incarnate (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (nature), Sense Motive, Survival. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Sentinel (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (the planes), Search, Spot, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Move Silently
Survivalist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Hide, Survival, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Ride
Targetteer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Hide, Profession. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, Swim
Avenger (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (local). lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Perform
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Sense Motive, and any two other skills. Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local)
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Speak Language. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim

Perform (comedy)
Gnome Paladin - Dragon 329 p 94 - Replace Knowledge (nobility & royalty)

Profession
Targetteer (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Hide, Move Silently. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, Swim

Profession (sailor)
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Appraise, Balance, Spot, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate.

Profession (siege engineer)
Commander (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Sense Motive, Spot. lose Climb, Jump, Swim.

Ride
Wilderness Rogue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Also Handle Animal, Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature), Survival. lose Appraise, Diplomacy, Decipher Script, Forgery, Gather Information

Search
Bodyguard (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Gather Information, Sense Motive, and Spot. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim.
Despot (Paladin) - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Intimidate. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Ride
Sentinel (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Spot, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Sense Motive
Urban Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) , also Gather Information, Knowledge (local). lose Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (dungeoneering), Survival
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Sense Motive, any two other skills. Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local)
Bodyguard (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Gather Information, Search, Spot. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim.
Commander (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Spot. lose Climb, Jump, Swim.
Filidh (Wizard) - Dragon 324 p 90 - also Gather Information, Intimidate, Survival. lose Profession
Pugilist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Spot. lose Craft, Handle Animal, Jump
Incarnate (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - Add Knowledge (nature), Listen, Survival. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty)

Sleight of Hand
Thug (Fighter) (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Bluff, Gather Information, Knowledge (local)
Athasian Sorcerer - Dragon 319 p 97
Athasian Wizard - Dragon 319 p 97

Speak Language
Cloistered Cleric (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) also Decipher Script, all Knowledge skills (from Knowledge domain)
Planar Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) adds Speak Language (Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Ignan, Infernal, Terran) And Knowledge (the planes) lose Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Urban Druid - Dragon 317 p 30 - also Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, Swim
Janissary (Fighter) -Dragon 334 p 88 - also any 2 Knowledge skills. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Swim

Spellcraft
Mystic Ranger - Dragon 336 p 105

Spot
Bodyguard (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Gather Information, Search, Sense Motive. lose Craft, Climb, Jump, Swim.
Commander (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive. lose Climb, Jump, Swim.
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Appraise, Balance, Profession (sailor) Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate.
Pugilist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Sense Motive. lose Craft, Handle Animal, Jump
Sentinel (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Survival. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Survival
Savage Bard (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) lose Decipher Script, Speak Language
Wilderness Rogue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm) Also Handle Animal, Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature), Ride. lose Appraise, Diplomacy, Decipher Script, Forgery, Gather Information
Hunter Monk - Dragon 310
Wild Monk - Dragon 324 p 97 - also Knowledge (nature). Lose Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perform, Sense Motive.
Anagakok (Wizard) Dragon 344 p 104
Filidh (Wizard) - Dragon 324 p 90 - Add Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive. lose Profession
Survivalist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Hide, Move Silently, Use Rope. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Ride
Anti-Paladin - Dragon 312 - also Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes). lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Sense Motive
Anarch (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Bluff, Disable Device, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture & engineering). lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Ride
Incarnate (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (nature), Listen, Sense Motive. lose Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
Sentinel (Paladin) - Dragon 310 - also Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Spot. lose Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, Ride

Tumble
Exoticist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - Lose Handle Animal, Ride
Horseman (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance. lose Climb, Intimidate, Swim
Kensai (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Concentration. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate

Use Magic Device
Arcane Disciple (Cleric) - Dragon 311 - also Knowledge (arcana)
Survivalist (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Balance, Hide, Move Silently, Survival. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate, Ride

Use Rope
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon 310 - also Appraise, Balance, Profession (sailor), Spot. lose Handle Animal, Intimidate.


[B]Monastic Orders
http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20041213a

A Flayed Hand monk adds Intimidate

A Shaarat'khesh Monk adds Knowledge (local), Knowledge (history). These replace Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion). Goblin only


Druid Organizations
Glendale Park Protectorate - Dragon 337 p 95 - members add Knowledge (local) to Druid class skill list


Barbarian Backgrounds
Born-Again Barbarian - Dragon 335 p 84 - Suggested Benefit: add Knowledge (local) as a Barbarian class skill




Disguise
Silverbrow Humans - Dragon Magic

Craft(Trapmaking)
Kobolds - http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a

Heal
Glimmerskin Halflings - Dragon Magic

Hide
Forestlord Elves - Dragon Magic
Forestlord Half-Elves - Dragon Magic

Knowledge (Nature)
Bhukas - Sandstorm
Uldra - Frostburn

Knowledge (the planes)
Ghost Elves- Dragon 313 p 73

Listen
Dragonkin - Draco p 150-1 also spot

Move Silently
Viletooth Lizardfolk - Dragon Magic

Ride
Lupin - Dragon Compendium

Speak Language
Changelings - RoE
Illumians - RoD

Spellcraft
Jaebrin - MM5

Spot
Dragonkin - Draco p 150-1 - also listen

Survival
Adu'jas - Dragon 317 p 22-5

Use Magic Device
Arcane Gnomes - Dragon 291


Sovereign Archetypes (True Dragons)
Dragons of Eberron pgs 30-1

Child of Eberron adds Survival
Flame of the Forge adds Craft, Use Magic Device
Fortune's Fang adds Bluff, Disguise
Guide of the Weak adds Diplomacy, Intimidate
Loredrake adds Spellcraft
Master of the Hoard adds Appraise, Diplomacy, Sense Motive
Passion's Flame adds Perform
Stalking Wyrm adds Hide, Move Silently, Survival


Human Regions - Dragon 334 pg 60-4 - adds a Class Skill, a Favored Class and suggests common PRCs
Shou Lung - Knowledge (nobility & royalty)
T'U Lung - Knowledge(arcana)
Tabot - Knowledge (religion)
The Plain of Horses - Ride
The Northern Wastes - Knowledge (spirits)
The Jungle Lands - Survival
The Island Kingdoms - Bluff
Koryo - Knowledge (history)
Kozakura - Intimidate
Wa - Diplomacy


Human Racial Traits
Oriental Adventures p 9-10
The Standard PHB traits and a class skill and favored class based on your clan
Crab: Knowledge (shadowlands)
Crane: Diplomacy
Dragon: Knowledge (history)
Lion: Knowledge (war) errated to Intimidate in Dragon 318
Phoenix: Knowledge (arcana)
Scorpion: Bluff
Unicorn: Ride




Magic Mantle - Complete Psionic - pg 70
Must be an Ardent, Divine Mind, Psychic Warrior with Mantled Warrior ACF, or Wilder with Mantled Wilder ACF, both here http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070214a

granted power gives you Use Magic Device as a class skill, and if you had bought ranks in Use Magic Device or Use Psionic Device at cross class prices you get a bonus in skill ranks as if it was originally a class skill



Elder Serpent - Dragon 313 pg 86-7 - If the Base creature has less than 10 class skills, choose additional class skills to bring the total to 10, adds skills to RHD, must be snake or snake like creature

The variant Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630x&page=1) article adds skills of the Fiendish parent to RHD.
That article was continued in "Elite Opponents: More (Half-)Fiendish Variety (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070209a)"

Lycanthrope (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm) adds skills to RHD

Entomanothrope (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a) adds skills to RHD

Primordial - Secrets of Xen'drik p 81 - gain any 1 Knowledge skill as a class skill - Giant only

Tauric - Savage Species - Treat skills from both the base creature's list and the base humanoid's list as class skills

Frenzy Dog (https://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20011025a) - If the animal didn't already have these skills, it receives them as class skills: Intimidate, Listen, Spot, Wilderness Lore. All other class skills get lost in the transformation




The Codex Anathema (LoM p 214) grants an inherent +2 int/-2 wis, as well as 5 ranks Knowledge (dungeoneering) and 2 ranks each of Knowledge (arcana) and (the planes)

Yenejg Togan's Planar Syllabus (Dungeon 88 p 104) grants 6 ranks in Knowledge (the planes)




Paragnostic Assembly - Complete Champion p 72–4 - your choice of Appraise, Decipher Script, any Knowledge skill, Psicraft, or Spellcraft as a class skill for all your classes, if you achieve rank 3. You have to tithe and pay monthly dues

Land of Honor -PHb II p 175 - grants you Knowledge (nobility and royalty) as a class skill with an affiliation score of 11+

[Curmudgeon]

Missing from the Cleric domains section:

o Appraise
Commerce - Eberron Campaign Setting 105

o Autohypnosis
Gem Dragon - Dragon # 344 107 (also Knowledge (psionics), Psicraft)

o Gather Information
City - Races of Destiny 162-163 (also Knowledge (local))

o Knowledge (local)
City - Races of Destiny 162-163 (also Gather Information)

o Knowledge (psionics)
Gem Dragon - Dragon # 344 107 (also Autohypnosis, Psicraft)

o Psicraft
Gem Dragon - Dragon # 344 107 (also Autohypnosis, Knowledge (psionics))

o Spot
Sky - Races of the Wild 174

o Survival
Weather - Eberron Campaign Setting 108

[daremetoidareyo]

Skilled City Dweller ACF from Cityscape web editions (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a):

Note, a skilled city dweller does not need to swap all of these skills.

Replace______ with _______.

handle animal with gather information
Knowledge (nature) with Knowledge (local)
Survival with Sense Motive
Ride with Tumble

[Curmudgeon]

Skilled City Dweller ACF from Cityscape web editions (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a)
Covered in a quote by inkubus.

[daremetoidareyo]

Covered in a quote by inkubus.

Failed my spot check. Sorry.

[Troacctid]

Several races gain class skills. Bhuka and Uldra always have Knowledge (Nature), Illumians and Changelings always have Speak Language, and Silverbrow Humans always have Disguise, off the top of my head.

Are you going to update the list? Not much point in having it sorted if you gotta read through the entire thread anyway.

[Curmudgeon]

In addition to those listed by surreal, there are more class skills from substitution levels and ACFs.

o Autohypnosis
Kalashtar Monk Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 124 (also Knowledge (psionics))

o Balance
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 126 (also Climb, Jump)
Shifter Ranger Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 128

o Bluff
Zhentarim Soldier Fighter Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) (also Diplomacy)
Tiefling Incarnate Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 48 (also Hide)
Changeling Egoist Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 121 (also Disguise)
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 123 (also Disguise, Sleight of Hand)

o Climb
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 126 (also Balance, Jump)
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 46) (also Hide, Jump, Move Silently)

o Concentration
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Craft, Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Profession, Ride)

o Craft
Warforged Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Intimidate)
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Concentration, Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Profession, Ride)

o Diplomacy
Zhentarim Soldier Fighter Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) (also Bluff)
Aasimar Incarnate Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 42
Fangshields Ranger Substitution Levels - Champions of Valor 41 (nonhumanoid only)

o Disable Device
Ranger Trap Expert ACF - Dungeonscape 12

o Disguise
Changeling Egoist Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 121 (also Bluff)
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 124 (also Knowledge (the planes), Perform)
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 123 (also Bluff, Sleight of Hand)

o Hide
Gnome Incarnate Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 46
Tiefling Incarnate Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 48 (also Bluff)
Shadow Cloak Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) (Gnome only) (also Move Silently)
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 46) (also Climb, Jump, Move Silently)

o Intimidate
Warforged Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Craft)
Skarn Monk Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 47
Kalashtar Telepath Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 125

o Jump
Shifter Druid Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 126 (also Balance, Climb)
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 46) (also Climb, Hide, Move Silently)

o Knowledge (any one, chosen at first level)
Changeling Rogue Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 122

o Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Dwarf Soulborn Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 44

o Knowledge (nobility and royalty)
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Concentration, Craft, Profession, Ride)

o Knowledge (psionics)
Kalashtar Monk Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 124 (also Autohypnosis)

o Knowledge (the planes)
Duskling Barbarian Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 43
Planar Barbarian Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 28
Planar Druid Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 31
Planar Fighter Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 32
Planar Monk (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040706a&page=2) Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 32
Planar Paladin Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 33
Planar Ranger Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 34
Planar Rogue Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 34
Planar Sorcerer Substitution Levels - Planar Handbook 35
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 124 (also Disguise, Perform)

o Listen
Wary Swordknight Paladin Substitution Levels - Champions of Valor 51 (Halfling only) (also Spot)

o Move Silently
Shadow Cloak Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) (Gnome only) (also Hide)
Halfling Totemist Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 46) (also Climb, Hide, Jump)

o Perform
Harmonious Knight Paladin Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a)
Kalashtar Soulknife Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 124 (also Disguise, Knowledge (the planes))

o Profession
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Concentration, Craft, Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Ride)

o Ride
Warforged Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 130 (also Concentration, Craft, Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Profession, Ride)

o Search
Elf Soulborn Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 45 (also Spot)

o Sleight of Hand
Changeling Wizard Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 123 (also Bluff, Disguise)

o Speak Language
Rilkan Rogue Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 47

o Spellcraft
Erudite Convert Spell to Power ACF (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a)

o Spot
Elf Soulborn Substitution Levels - Magic of Incarnum 45 (also Search)
Wary Swordknight Paladin Substitution Levels - Champions of Valor 51 (Halfling only) (also Listen)

o Survival
Golden Hands of Vergadain Rogue Substitution Levels (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060327a) (Dwarf only)
Shifter Wilder Substitution Levels - Races of Eberron 129

[Thurbane]

Don't planar Sorcerer levels also grant Knowledge (the planes)?

I only know this because of the borked entry reqs of Fiend-blooded, a PrC designed for Sorcerers that a straight Sorcerer cannot enter without some finagling.

[Curmudgeon]

Don't planar Sorcerer levels also grant Knowledge (the planes)?
Yes, as does Planar Barbarian. I fixed a couple more omissions also. I've ported over and taken up maintenance of the Alternative Class Features thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444354-3-5-Alternative-Class-Features-%28ported-from-Wizards-community-boards%29&p=19852965). The original style was rather freeform, and the problems here were the difference between "add <whatever> to class skill list" and "add <whatever> to class list"; when I searched for "skill" I failed on the latter type entries.

Edit: We're still missing skills from class variants, like Cloistered Cleric. Maybe I'll get to those this weekend.

[Thurbane]

Yes, as does Planar Barbarian. I fixed a couple more omissions also. I've ported over and taken up maintenance of the Alternative Class Features thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?444354-3-5-Alternative-Class-Features-%28ported-from-Wizards-community-boards%29&p=19852965). The original style was rather freeform, and the problems here were the difference between "add <whatever> to class skill list" and "add <whatever> to class list"; when I searched for "skill" I failed on the latter type entries.

Edit: We're still missing skills from class variants, like Cloistered Cleric. Maybe I'll get to those this weekend.

Nice work, as always. :smallsmile:

[Bullet06320]

Are you going to update the list? Not much point in having it sorted if you gotta read through the entire thread anyway.

yes I plain on updating it with missing info as its found and provided, probly starting in 20 hours or so, Friday is my long day at work and in a couple hours I continue work on my deck, so not much time till the wee hours of sunday

and thank you curmudgeon for providing so much so far

it also seems to be light on Dragon Magazine material and templates, so I got some searching through Dragon issues coming up soon, lol

[Bullet06320]

I've updated that

[Curmudgeon]

You've still got those ACFs from surreal in the quote, but not integrated into the list you copied from my post.

[Bullet06320]

You've still got those ACFs from surreal in the quote, but not integrated into the list you copied from my post.

those are integrated in just trying to figure out how to do the rest when I have some more time

[Troacctid]

More racial class skills: Forestlord Elves and Forestlord Half-Elves get Hide. Glimmerskin Halflings get Heal. Viletooth Lizardfolk get Move Silently. All of these are from Dragon Magic.

Uldra is from Frostburn.

[WhamBamSam]

The Lupin race (Dragon Compendium) get Ride as a permanent class skill.

[Bullet06320]

thanks guys for those

[ZamielVanWeber]

Since we are in official 3rd party Kingdoms of Kalama has the Skill Prodigy feat, which gives you class skills equal to your int mod every time you take it.

[Curmudgeon]

Since we are in official 3rd party Kingdoms of Kalama has the Skill Prodigy feat, which gives you class skills equal to your int mod every time you take it.
Kingdoms of Kalamar was licensed for D&D 3.0, but not for 3.5.

[Bullet06320]

KoK fits in that fuzzy grey area, but deserve mentioning with an * attached to it, which book is that feat in? I'm missing a few, going to look now tho

[ShurikVch]

There are a bit more races:
Craft (trapmaking) - any Kobold
Knowledge (the planes) - Ghost Elf (Dragon #313)
Survival - Adu’ja (Dragon #317)

[ZamielVanWeber]

Kingdoms of Kalamar was licensed for D&D 3.0, but not for 3.5.

But it was updated to 3.5 here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG5_feats.pdf) and here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG2_classes.pdf).


KoK fits in that fuzzy grey area, but deserve mentioning with an * attached to it, which book is that feat in? I'm missing a few, going to look now tho

The Player's Guide.

[Troacctid]

There are a bit more races:
Craft (trapmaking) - any Kobold
Knowledge (the planes) - Ghost Elf (Dragon #313)
Survival - Adu’ja (Dragon #317)

Where do kobolds get trapmaking as a class skill? I thought they just get a +2 bonus to it.

[ShurikVch]

Where do kobolds get trapmaking as a class skill?In the Races of the Dragon
Link (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a):
Races of the Dragon introduced Craft (trapmaking) as a class skill for all kobolds.

[Curmudgeon]

But it was updated to 3.5 here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG5_feats.pdf) and here (http://www.kenzerco.com/Orpg/kalamar/KPG2_classes.pdf).
Sure, but those changes are not WotC-approved (i.e., not licensed for D&D).

[Bullet06320]

Since we are in official 3rd party Kingdoms of Kalama has the Skill Prodigy feat, which gives you class skills equal to your int mod every time you take it.

I found it, fell asleep before I could get back, also found another feat while I was there, Scholar, better version of Education, posted it in the first post
made a new section specifically for KoK stuff at the bottom of the feats stuff, with Curmudgeon's note about it

[Curmudgeon]

Here's one I stumbled across:

Profession (siege engineer) is added to the Marshal (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b) class list (see Dragon # 348, page 92) to make the class more compatible with Heroes of Battle. This is an optional adjustment, but without a tradeoff.

[Cirrylius]

If I wanted my class to have more skill points, the first thing I would do is buy Pathfinder.

[Bullet06320]

If I wanted my class to have more skill points, the first thing I would do is buy Pathfinder.

Yes, the Pathfinder system does consolidate the skills in a good format, I'm not too familiar with them personally

and thanks Curmudgeon once again for the good finds, I added that to the ACF section

[Endarire]

If I wanted my class to have more skill points, I'd ask my GM.

[Bullet06320]

added under races
o Knowledge (the planes)
Ghost Elves- Dragon Magazine 313 pg 73

just found it, so put it where it belongs

[Bullet06320]

update:
I added a new section on the Sovereign Archetypes for dragons as many of them add class skills

[Troacctid]

The following variant classes gain new class skills:

Savage Bard: Survival
Cloistered Cleric: Decipher Script, Speak Language (not counting Knowledge domain skills)
Druidic Avenger: Intimidate
Thug (Fighter): Bluff, Gather Information, Knowledge (local), Sleight of Hand
Paladin of Freedom: Bluff
Paladin of Slaughter: Intimidate
Planar Ranger: Knowledge (the planes), Speak Language (Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Ignan, Infernal, Terran only)
Urban Ranger: Gather Information, Knowledge (local), Sense Motive
Wilderness Rogue: Handle Animal, Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature), Ride, Survival
Battle Sorcerer: Intimidate

[Bullet06320]

and once again Thank you Troacctid

and updated, added a new section on the main the page for those variant classes, posted a link to the srd where they are, and added what they trade out as well, figured it was important to add that part

[Troacctid]

It looks like the Champions of Valor substitution levels are missing as well.

[Bullet06320]

I'll look through that on Saturday night and see what's there

[Bullet06320]

I just took a quick glance, and didn't see any that give new or different skills, if I missed any, let me know and I update it

[daremetoidareyo]

Substitution Levels from Champions of Valor
Monk:
Broken one Monk (p. 36) Levels 3,6,7: Add Heal & Survival

Fighter:
Darksong Knight (p. 38) Levels 2,6,10: Add Perform (dance)

Wizard:
Dukar (p. 38) Levels 5,10,15: Add Swim

Paladin:
Crescent Moon Knight (p.37) Levels 4,6,10: Add Knowledge (local Impiltur)
Holy Judge (p.44) Levels 1,4,6: Add Knowledge (the planes)
Lion Legionnaire (p. 44) Levels 3,4,5: Add Knowledge (nature)
Mystic Fire Knight (p. 45) Levels 4,5,6: Add Spellcraft and Knowledge (arcana)
Noble Heart (p. 46) Levels 3,4,6: Add Survival
Red Falcon (p.48) Levels 2,4,6: Add Knowledge History
Ruby Rose Knight (p.49) Levels 3,6,12: Add Bluff and Perform (dance, oratory, sing, and string instruments)
Wary Swordknight (p.51) Levels 3,4,6: Add Listen and Spot

Ranger:
Fangshields (p.41) Levels 2,4,5: Add diplomacy
Shadow Sword (p.49) Levels 3,6,8: Add Knowledge (history)
Shooting Star (p.50) Levels 2,4,8,11,14: Add Knowledge (arcana) and spellcraft

[martixy]

There is, a feat, in Dragon Magazine #326, on p.80, called Flexible Mind.
It has no prerequisites and straight up lets you make any 2 skills, you have at least half a rank in, class skills. (And gives +1 in both.)

The only "catch", if you can call it that, is that they are [Anarchic] feats(sort of like [Exalted], but for the chaotic end of the alignment spectrum).
There's some vague RP implications and the fact that you now radiate an Aura of Chaos.

[Bullet06320]

updated all those plus I found:
Hunter of Fiends (Paladin Substitution Levels) Dragon Magazine 349 pg 93 lose smite evil and Knowledge (nobilty and royalty) gain favored enemy outsiders (evil) Track, survival and Knowledge(the planes)

failed my first spot check by picking up the wrong book originally, lol, made the 2nd one when looking for something else, lol

[ShurikVch]

Do you seen my reply #21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=19976891&postcount=21)?
Because info from it still missing, despite it being about 3,5 months old

[Bullet06320]

apparently spot is not a skill class of mine
I thought the kobolds made it, and I got the ghost elves added in there already, but completely missed the Adu'jas
sorry about that, but its updated now

[daremetoidareyo]

apparently spot is not a skill class of mine
I thought the kobolds made it, and I got the ghost elves added in there already, but completely missed the Adu'jas
sorry about that, but its updated now

Admit it, you didn't take ten.

[Bullet06320]

Admit it, you didn't take ten.

lol, I just like rolling the dice

[daremetoidareyo]

Found another weird one:

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ebds/20041213a

Monks that belong to the flayed hand:
A Flayed Hand monk adds Intimidate to her list of class skills. However, while her devotional marks are visible, she suffers a -2 circumstance penalty on Diplomacy or Gather Information checks.

Monks that are goblins: The Shaarat'khesh
Knowledge (local) and Knowledge (history) are class skills for shaarat'khesh monks. These take the place of Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (religion).

[Bullet06320]

thats one more added to the list, added it under the variant class section under the heading monastic orders, seemed like the best place to list it

and just came across
Knowledge Specialty (Ex): At 1st level, a favored soul can choose whether to make Knowledge (arcana) or Knowledge (religion) a class skill. Once this choice is made, it cannot be reversed.
from the dead levels II article and added it at the bottom of the ACF section with a link to the article

[Bullet06320]

latested update
Nightbringer Initiate - Faiths of Eberon (requires spontaneous summon natures ally and Nongood alignment) and adds Move Silent and Hide and some spells

Ancestral Wisdom(Divine) - Faiths of Eberon - while it doesn't exactly give you ranks, by spending a Turn Undead Attempt you get a +4 sacred bonus to any one skill, and treat it as trained in that skill and can take 10 even if rushed for a limited time. so worth mentioning IMO as way to get what you need in a pinch at least

I put that in the feat section under honorable mention

and also


Dungeon magazine 88 p. 104 features "Yenejg Togan's Planar Syllabus", which grants actual ranks in Knowledge (the planes). In fact, anyone who has read the book and has sufficient knowledge (the planes) ranks, the scrybe scroll feat, and the ability to cast Contact Other Plane and Legend Lore can just make one of these. Reading one takes 3 days, consumes the writing, and then grants half as many ranks as the creator had. Cost is 500 gp per rank conferred.

The existence of this thing is arguably the biggest insult to the skill-rank system in game.

[Troacctid]

latested update
Nightbringer Initiate - Faiths of Eberon (requires spontaneous summon natures ally and Nongood alignment) and adds Move Silent and Hide and some spells

Note that, like all the other initiate feats, it is class-specific. (Non-druids need not apply.)

[Bullet06320]

Note that, like all the other initiate feats, it is class-specific. (Non-druids need not apply.)

doesn't specifically say druid only in the requirements, just merely that you need to have spontaneous summon natures ally, which is a druid feature, but if you have a way to meet the requirement, then your all good

but for the sake of completeness, it must be added to the list, like the sovereign archetypes, true dragon only is a requirement, if you don't meet the requirement, then you cant have it

[Troacctid]

doesn't specifically say druid only in the requirements, just merely that you need to have spontaneous summon natures ally, which is a druid feature, but if you have a way to meet the requirement, then your all good

but for the sake of completeness, it must be added to the list, like the sovereign archetypes, true dragon only is a requirement, if you don't meet the requirement, then you cant have it

It only adds the skills to your list of druid class skills, so while non-druids can take it, it won't be very useful for them.

[Thurbane]

doesn't specifically say druid only in the requirements, just merely that you need to have spontaneous summon natures ally, which is a druid feature, but if you have a way to meet the requirement, then your all good

Like the Spontaneous Summon feat.

From a skill perspective, no use to non-Druids

[Sian]

Human Paragon 1 give you adaptive learning, select any single skill (that you've also selected as a class skill for the Paragon class), this skill is now a classskill for all current and future classes

[Bullet06320]

It only adds the skills to your list of druid class skills, so while non-druids can take it, it won't be very useful for them.

your right, I just reread it, its specifically states adds to your druid class skills
once again, proving spot is not a class skill of mine, lol


Human Paragon 1 give you adaptive learning, select any single skill (that you've also selected as a class skill for the Paragon class), this skill is now a class skill for all current and future classes

that one is mentioned in the quotes, the very last one on the first post

[Sian]

that one is mentioned in the quotes, the very last one on the first post

I never said that spot was a class skill of mine :smallwink:

[dextercorvia]

The Enchanter Variant in UA (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#socialProficiency) gives Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Sense Motive to specialist Enchanters. They lose Wizard bonus feats.

The Diviner variant gives Sense Motive as part of the ability they lose Familiar for.

[Bullet06320]

added those in the variant class section

[Thurbane]

Can I give a recommendation? Maybe there should be a section in the OP where you list skills in alphabetical order, and then the ways to get them underneath the skill. This would be very useful when people are looking for a way to get a specific skill on their class list.

[Bullet06320]

that's a good idea, maybe later tonite, I will look into that, dunno if it will fit, but its worth taking a look at

and if there's not room, a new post with a link, is also an option, so its doable one way or another

[Sian]

get room from pruning the quotes at the end

[Sian]

Initiate of Shar (City of Splendors: Waterdeep) gives Bluff and Hide as class skills. Note that Table and text disagree about just about everything but the name of the feat

[Bullet06320]

Initiate of Shar (City of Splendors: Waterdeep) gives Bluff and Hide as class skills. Note that Table and text disagree about just about everything but the name of the feat
added it near the bottom of the feats section

Of Special Note
Initiate of Shar - City of Splendors: Waterdeep pg 144-5 - adds bluff and hide and several spells, must be able to cast 1st level divine spells and patron deity Shar according to the text on pg 145.
Now according to the table on pg 144, you add Knowledge(Arcana) and Knowledge(Dungeoneering) and several new spells, must be Blackguard level 1 or cleric level 3 with patron deity Shar.

I could find no errata for this, but if some surfaces somewhere I will update it. And it should be noted that according to the primary source rule, text trumps table, so the text version should be used.

And as far as an alphabetical list of skills with each way to get, would double the size of the original post, and I like the way its broken up with the type of way to gain the new skills. its already listed in alphabetical order of skills for most of the posts.

[Sian]

looking around, Initiate of Shar was also printed in Champions of Ruin, and there both text and table agreed on Bluff/Hide and prerequisites.

Although this might well be considered invalid since Champions of Ruin was from May 2005, and City of Splendors: Waterdeep is from July 2005 :smallsigh:

[Bullet06320]

so...city of splendors is the updated version, here's one for the dysfunctional thread, thanks WOTC editors, lol

[Bullet06320]

Here's an unusual one I found

Magic Mantle - Complete Psionic - pg 70
must be an ardent or divine mind, unless there is another way to get mantles out there
granted power gives you Use Magic Device as a class skill, and if you had bought ranks in Use Magic Device or Use Psionic Device at cross class prices you get a bonus in skill ranks as if it was originally a class skill

not sure how to classify this, its limited on how to gain it, and goes against the OP of the original thread, that would prefer to stay away from multiclassing, but it is an interesting item
and I'm sure abusable with a single level dip, especially since it gives you more ranks, and there is nothing I've so far seen with a way to get Use Psionic Device in it

[Thurbane]

One to be added to races:

Jaebrin (MM5) always has Spellcraft as a class skill

[Berenger]

Bribe the DM to steal starting occupations from d20 Modern: http://www.d20resources.com/modern.d20.srd/starting.occupation/ - problem solved.

[Bullet06320]

Jaebrin added

and @ Berenger I was thinking about adding a section for the D20 modern stuff earlier this evening, but decided to grab the complete psionics book in stead, lol, I may have to now that its been mentioned by you

[ShurikVch]

There are some more feats (mostly from Dragon Magazine):
o Concentration
Born Under a Setting Sun - Dragon # 340, page 48

[B] o Handle Animal
Initiate of Ehlonna [initiate] - Dragon # 342, page 50 (also survival)

o Perform
Divine Inspiration - Dragon # 333, page 85
Hymnist - Dragon # 325, page 62

o Sleight Of Hand
Initiate of Olidammara [initiate] - Dragon # 342, page 51 (also tumble)

o Speak Language
Mercenary Background [regional] - Dragon # 315, page 54 (Greyhawk)
Multilingual - Lost Empires of Faerûn
Polyglot - Dragon # 323, page 90

o Survival
Initiate of Ehlonna [initiate] - Dragon # 342, page 50 (also handle animal)

o Truespeak
Truename Training - Tome of Magic

o Tumble
Initiate of Olidammara [initiate] - Dragon # 342, page 51 (also sleight of hand)

[Sian]

Magic Mantle - Complete Psionic - pg 70
must be an ardent or divine mind, unless there is another way to get mantles out there

Well, Wilder, and Psionic Warrior both have ACF's gaining mantles

[Troacctid]

There are some more feats (mostly from Dragon Magazine):

Those initiate feats are class-specific as well, right?

[ShurikVch]

Those initiate feats are class-specific as well, right?No.
They required only divine spellcasting and patron deity.

[Troacctid]

Double-checked, and they only add the skills to the list of one of your divine spellcasting classes. So it's sort of class-specific, but not as strict as some of the others.

[Bullet06320]

Thanks ShurikVch, added those

I also stuck a disclaimer under if special note, after the initiate of shar feat is listed about the initiate feats

* Please note that most of the initiate feats specifically say add to your druid class skills or divine class skills

also sent to me in a PM by Arael666

o Use Magic Device
Arcane Gnomes - Dragon Magazine 291

and @ Berenger gonna look at the modern d20 in a bit and work on seeing about a section for that

[Troacctid]

Initiate of Aasterinian, Initiate of Astilabor, Initiate of Lendys, and Initiate of Tiamat are cleric only.
Greensinger Initiate, Nightbringer Initiate, and Gatekeeper Initiate are druid only.
Initiate of Ehlonna and Initiate of Olidammara are divine spellcaster only.
Initiate of Shar is surprisingly not class-specific.

There you go, now you can fix those.

I think you should ignore the table for Initiate of Shar as text trumps table, and it appears the other way in CR. It's pretty clear the table is simply in error.

Skilled City-Dweller is missing from the alternate class feature section. It can give any class Gather Information (instead of Handle Animal), Knowledge Local (instead of Nature), Sense Motive (instead of Survival), and/or Tumble (instead of Ride). Voice of the City is also missing--gives Speak Language, works for Druid, Ranger, or Spirit Shaman. Also, you should consolidate the variant classes with the alternate class features. Variant classes are really just ACFs.

Additional feats:

Diplomacy
Recognized Elder - Dragon #334 (also Knowledge: History)

Knowledge
All: Well Read - Dragon #315
Any: Knowledge Devotion - Complete Champion
Any of Geography, History, Local, Religion, or Planes: Dderywd Chymdeithas Initiate - Dragon #332 (Druid only)
History: Recognized Elder - Dragon #334 (also Diplomacy)
Religion: Bronze Solaris Member - Dragon #334 (Sorcerer only)

Profession
Sailor: Seafarer - Dragon #337 (also Survival)

Survival
Seafarer - Dragon #337 (also Profession: Sailor)

[Pippin]

First off, the OP has done an impressive work, thank you.

I tried to look up Use Psionic Device but I couldn't find anything. Is there really no way to get this skill without taking an appropriate class?

[ShurikVch]

I tried to look up Use Psionic Device but I couldn't find anything. Is there really no way to get this skill without taking an appropriate class?See the Feats "o Any" - they can grant any skill, including the Use Psionic Device

[ShurikVch]

Sorry for double-posting, but there is one more feat:
o Knowledge
All: Well Read - Dragon #315, page 54 (regional feat from Greyhawk)

[Bullet06320]

First off, the OP has done an impressive work, thank you.

I appreciate that, but this started as a clone of a WOTC when they shut the boards there down last year. and then it grew from there. Its really a community effort as so many others have found and posted items here that where missing from the original thread. I just merely compile them on the first page.


Bribe the DM to steal starting occupations from d20 Modern: http://www.d20resources.com/modern.d20.srd/starting.occupation/ - problem solved.

I couldn't help myself, I added them in their own section

@ Troacctid updated all those initiate feats, and added the other feats you posted as well, the Skilled City Dweller ACF was in the Quotes, and never got integrated, but it is now. and I'm still mixed on the Initiate of Shar though, left it where it is for now, with both the table and text listed with the disclaimer about text trumps table

and added the Mantle in its on section

[ShurikVch]

And one more thing:
Savage Tide Player's Guide, Location: Sasserine (http://paizo.com/dungeonissues/SavageTide/SavageTide_HR.pdf) have "District Feats," which work a little like Regional Feats; they're feats you can take if your character is from Sasserine
Noble District (pg. 10) have Academy Graduate feat:
Pick any three Charisma- or Intelligence-based skills. These three skills are always considered class skills for you.

[Bullet06320]

And one more thing:
Savage Tide Player's Guide, Location: Sasserine (http://paizo.com/dungeonissues/SavageTide/SavageTide_HR.pdf) have "District Feats," which work a little like Regional Feats; they're feats you can take if your character is from Sasserine
Noble District (pg. 10) have Academy Graduate feat:

now that's what I'm talking about, from an obscure source and it fits in that happy middle ground of officially licensed yet 3rd party material, nice find and its added in

[Bullet06320]

oh boy, I found more work for me to do Dragons get skills too, so I added a new subsection under races specifically for dragons


After noticing Dragons get class skills just for being Dragons, I decided they should get their own subsection, listed alphabetically by dragon
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm

Black Dragons - Hide, Move Silently, and Swim
Blue Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Spellcraft
Brass Dragons - Bluff, Gather Information, and Survival
Bronze Dragons - Disguise, Swim, and Survival
Copper Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Jump
Gold Dragons - Disguise, Heal, and Swim
Green Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Move
Red Dragons - Appraise, Bluff, and Jump
Silver Dragons - Bluff, Disguise, and Jump
Time Dragons - Dragon Magazine 359 pg 36-41 All Knowledge skills and Speak Language
White Dragons - Hide, Move Silently, and Swim

I got the SRD ones and the Time Dragon, that's how I noticed it, I was looking at that article and noticed they get class skills, then went to the srd and DOH!!!!!!! missed that, so now looking for dragons and what skills they get needed to be added, any help would be much appreciated, and if you do find any, use the same format I already have to make copy/pasting easier for me, thanks in advance
will be adding more as I find them, this is just a start and an update on this current part of our little project here


surprisingly, only one dragon in the draconomicon gets racial class skills, and dragonkin, updated those

[Bullet06320]

last update for today

o Heal
Self-medicating (General) Dragon Magazine 354 pg 55 - Must have Wedded to History with survivor background (A feat in the same article)

found that and added the ferrous dragons from Dragon 356

[WhamBamSam]

oh boy, I found more work for me to do Dragons get skills too, so I added a new subsection under races specifically for dragons


After noticing Dragons get class skills just for being Dragons, I decided they should get their own subsection, listed alphabetically by dragon
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm

Black Dragons - Hide, Move Silently, and Swim
Blue Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Spellcraft
Brass Dragons - Bluff, Gather Information, and Survival
Bronze Dragons - Disguise, Swim, and Survival
Copper Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Jump
Gold Dragons - Disguise, Heal, and Swim
Green Dragons - Bluff, Hide, and Move
Red Dragons - Appraise, Bluff, and Jump
Silver Dragons - Bluff, Disguise, and Jump
Time Dragons - Dragon Magazine 359 pg 36-41 All Knowledge skills and Speak Language
White Dragons - Hide, Move Silently, and Swim

I got the SRD ones and the Time Dragon, that's how I noticed it, I was looking at that article and noticed they get class skills, then went to the srd and DOH!!!!!!! missed that, so now looking for dragons and what skills they get needed to be added, any help would be much appreciated, and if you do find any, use the same format I already have to make copy/pasting easier for me, thanks in advance
will be adding more as I find them, this is just a start and an update on this current part of our little project here


surprisingly, only one dragon in the draconomicon gets racial class skills, and dragonkin, updated thoseIt seems to me that those are only extra class skills that they get on their RHD (which is also my reading for Sovereign Archetype skills, though that's less clear and those are at least alternative options). I would argue that saying Blue Dragon RHD have spellcraft as a class skill is a lot like saying that Fighter HD have ride as a class skill, or at least like saying that Blue Dragon Shamans have spellcraft.

[Troacctid]

Yeah, most RHD come with class skills. They're just for those levels.

[ShurikVch]

Dderwydd Chymdeithas Initiate feat from Dragon #332, pg. 87
Allow to add one skill from the list to your druid skill list
The list:
Knowledge (geography)
Knowledge (history)
Knowledge (local)
Knowledge (religion)
Knowledge (the planes)

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It seems to me that those are only extra class skills that they get on their RHD (which is also my reading for Sovereign Archetype skills, though that's less clear and those are at least alternative options). I would argue that saying Blue Dragon RHD have spellcraft as a class skill is a lot like saying that Fighter HD have ride as a class skill, or at least like saying that Blue Dragon Shamans have spellcraft.

I'm not so sure there, in the dragon entry in the srd it says they are class skills, doesn't say specifically for RHD, but I looked up a couple other races I have listed

silver brow human says Disguise is always considered a class skill (no RHD)
Class Skills: Hide is a class skill for forestlord elves. (no RHD)
Move Silently is a class skill for viletooth lizardfolk (they have 2 racial hit die)
but Ghost elves have Knowledge (the planes) as a racial class skill - dragon 313 (no RHD)



Yeah, most RHD come with class skills. They're just for those levels.
do we have a specific rules quote from somewhere?

[Troacctid]

RHD are always associated with class skills, unless the creature in question is mindless and has no skills at all. You can see them listed in a monster's "as characters" section. (Examples: Bugbear (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/bugbear.htm), Centaur (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/centaur.htm), Minotaur (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/minotaur.htm).)

The general rule is that any skill mentioned in a creature's statblock is a class skill for that creature's hit dice.

Monster characters treat skills mentioned in their monster entry as class skills.

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Disguise Aptitude: Silverbrow humans have a +2 racial bonus on Disguise checks, and Disguise is always considered a class skill. (no RHD)
no questions there, it states specifically its always a class skill


Class Skills: Move Silently is a class skill for viletooth lizardfolk (they have 2 racial hit die)
now is it for just the RHD or always a class skill?


Class Skills: Heal is a class skill for glimmerskin halflings. (no RHD)
Class Skills: Hide is a class skill for forestlord elves. (no RHD)
Class Skills: Hide is a class skill for forestlord half-elves. (no RHD)
no racial hit die, but is it always considered a class skill?

those are all in the same book


All kobolds add Craft (trapmaking) to their list of class skills.
phrased differently, but it seems it would be always a class skill


Ghost elves have Knowledge (the planes) as a racial class skill - dragon 313 (no RHD)
this one says racial class skill, but no RHD


Racial Skills: A bugbear’s humanoid levels give it skill points equal to 6 × (2 + Int modifier). Its class skills are Climb, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, and Spot.
Racial Skills: A minotaur’s monstrous humanoid levels give it skill points equal to 9 × (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1). Its class skills are Intimidate, Jump, Listen, Search, and Spot.
now here it lists skill points for its RHD, followed by a period, then lists class skills.

the way its phrased differently in different places leaves it open to some interpretation

I see what your saying, but it doesn't go right out and say those skills are class skills for the RHD levels, or always class skills. Then you go and and have races that say they get class skills, have no racial HD but doesn't come out and specifically say always a class skill

at the moment I'm of the belief if it says class skills under race, they are always class skills, BUT I'm not sure if that's correct. Its not something I've given much thought too till this thread. RHD does give skill points for specific skills as class skills, but hopefully you can see where some confusion can be had in how its listed in various places

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at this moment, I'm not updating any of the races unless it specifically says a skill is always a class skill, until I come to a better a conclusion about the wording, maybe I'm over thinking things or misunderstanding some things but for the moment, I'm leaving what I got there

but on another note, updated that feat ShurikVch

and added
Wanderer (Cleric ACF) - Dragon Mgazine 353 pg 89 - Lose turn or rebuke undead, adds Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (local), Speak Language, and Survival as class skills
Relic Hunter (Cleric ACF) - Dragon Mgazine 353 pg 89 - Lose turn or rebuke undead, Knowledge (dungeoneering) and Search as class skills
Blood of Eberron Sorcerer substitution level -Dragon Magazine 351 pg 79- adds Diplomacy, Handle animal, Heal, Knowledge (nature)
Blood of Khyber Sorcerer substitution level -Dragon Magazine 351 pg 79- adds Intimidate, Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Blood of Siberys Sorcerer substitution level -Dragon Magazine 351 pg 79- adds Diplomacy, Knowledge (the planes)

[ShurikVch]

Some more stuff:
o Bluff
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also diplomacy and sense motive)

o Diplomacy
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and sense motive)

o Knowledge (architecture and engineering)
Dwarven Rogue Substitution Levels - Dragon #338, pg. 96

o Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Dwarven Cleric Substitution Levels - Races of Stone

o Sense Motive
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and diplomacy)

o Survival
Elf Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of the Wild
Wizard-Illusionist variant, Shadow Shaper (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#shadowShaper): Add Hide

Dragon #311
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric): Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local). Add Perform, Sense Motive, and two any other skills
Arcane Disciple (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana) and Use Magic Device
Aspirant (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Benevolent (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Crusader (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (the planes) and Diplomacy. Add Knowledge (arcana), Handle Animal and Intimidate
Evangelist (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (history) and Knowledge (the planes). Add Gather Information
Metal Master (Druid): Eliminate Handle Animal. Add Knowledge (architecture and engineering) and Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Wild Reaper (Druid): Add Intimidate
Winter Warden (Druid): Add Knowledge (geography)

Dragon #310
Bodyguard (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Gather Info, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot
Commander (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive, and Spot.
Corsair (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Appraise, Balance, Profession(sailor), Spot, and Use Rope
Exoticist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Ride. Add Tumble
Fencer (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Bluff, Diplomacy, and Gather Info
Horseman (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Intimidate, and Swim. Add Balance and Tumble
Kensai (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Balance, Concentration, and Tumble
Knight (Fighter): Replace Intimidate with Diplomacy. Add Heal
Pugilist (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Handle Animal, and Jump. Add Bluff, Sense Motive, and Spot
Shield Bearer (Fighter): Eliminate Swim. Add Diplomacy
Survivalist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, and Ride. Add Balance, Hide, Move Silently, Survival, and Use Rope
Targetteer (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, and Swim. Add Hide, Move Silently, and Profession
Anarch (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), and Ride. Add Bluff, Disable Device, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), and Survival
Avenger (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), and Move Silently
Enforcer (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, and Knowledge (history)
Incarnate (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty). Add Knowledge (nature), Listen, Sense Motive, and Survival
Sentinel (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Spot, and Survival

Dragon #312
Anti-Paladin: Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Sense Motive. Add Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), and Survival
Corrupter (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession. Add Bluff, Disguise, Forgery, Hide, and Knowledge (history)
Despot (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, and Ride. Add Bluff, Intimidate, and Search
Deathwalker (Wizard): Replace Decipher Script with Bluff
Fleshcrafter (Wizard): Eliminate Decipher Script and Profession. Add Heal

Dragon #324
Wild Monk: Eliminate Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perform, and Sense Motive. Add Knowledge (nature) and Survival
Filidh (Wizard): Eliminate Profession. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive, and Survival.

Dragon #317 (pg. 30)
Urban Druid: Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, and Swim. Add Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, and Speak Language

Dragon #329 (pg. 94)
Gnome Paladin (variant, not a sub. levels): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Perform (comedy)

Dragon #332 (pg. 90)
Wyrmslayer (Paladin): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #336 (pg. 105)
Mystic Ranger: Add Spellcraft

Dragon #339 (pg. 90)
Sidhe Scholar (Druid): Add Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #344 (pg. 104)
Anagakok (Wizard): Add Survival

Dragon #349 (pg. 93)
Paladin variant, Hunter of Fiends: Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (the planes). Add Survival

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Some more stuff:
o Bluff
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also diplomacy and sense motive)

o Diplomacy
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and sense motive)

o Knowledge (architecture and engineering)
Dwarven Rogue Substitution Levels - Dragon #338, pg. 96

o Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Dwarven Cleric Substitution Levels - Races of Stone

o Sense Motive
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and diplomacy)

o Survival
Elf Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of the Wild
Wizard-Illusionist variant, Shadow Shaper (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#shadowShaper): Add Hide

Dragon #311
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric): Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local). Add Perform, Sense Motive, and two any other skills
Arcane Disciple (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana) and Use Magic Device
Aspirant (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Benevolent (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Crusader (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (the planes) and Diplomacy. Add Knowledge (arcana), Handle Animal and Intimidate
Evangelist (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (history) and Knowledge (the planes). Add Gather Information
Metal Master (Druid): Eliminate Handle Animal. Add Knowledge (architecture and engineering) and Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Wild Reaper (Druid): Add Intimidate
Winter Warden (Druid): Add Knowledge (geography)

Dragon #310
Bodyguard (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Gather Info, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot
Commander (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive, and Spot.
Corsair (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Appraise, Balance, Profession(sailor), Spot, and Use Rope
Exoticist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Ride. Add Tumble
Fencer (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Bluff, Diplomacy, and Gather Info
Horseman (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Intimidate, and Swim. Add Balance and Tumble
Kensai (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Balance, Concentration, and Tumble
Knight (Fighter): Replace Intimidate with Diplomacy. Add Heal
Pugilist (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Handle Animal, and Jump. Add Bluff, Sense Motive, and Spot
Shield Bearer (Fighter): Eliminate Swim. Add Diplomacy
Survivalist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, and Ride. Add Balance, Hide, Move Silently, Survival, and Use Rope
Targetteer (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, and Swim. Add Hide, Move Silently, and Profession
Anarch (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), and Ride. Add Bluff, Disable Device, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), and Survival
Avenger (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), and Move Silently
Enforcer (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, and Knowledge (history)
Incarnate (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty). Add Knowledge (nature), Listen, Sense Motive, and Survival
Sentinel (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Spot, and Survival

Dragon #312
Anti-Paladin: Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Sense Motive. Add Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), and Survival
Corrupter (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession. Add Bluff, Disguise, Forgery, Hide, and Knowledge (history)
Despot (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, and Ride. Add Bluff, Intimidate, and Search
Deathwalker (Wizard): Replace Decipher Script with Bluff
Fleshcrafter (Wizard): Eliminate Decipher Script and Profession. Add Heal

Dragon #324
Wild Monk: Eliminate Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perform, and Sense Motive. Add Knowledge (nature) and Survival
Filidh (Wizard): Eliminate Profession. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive, and Survival.

Dragon #317 (pg. 30)
Urban Druid: Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, and Swim. Add Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, and Speak Language

Dragon #329 (pg. 94)
Gnome Paladin (variant, not a sub. levels): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Perform (comedy)

Dragon #332 (pg. 90)
Wyrmslayer (Paladin): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #336 (pg. 105)
Mystic Ranger: Add Spellcraft

Dragon #339 (pg. 90)
Sidhe Scholar (Druid): Add Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #344 (pg. 104)
Anagakok (Wizard): Add Survival

Dragon #349 (pg. 93)
Paladin variant, Hunter of Fiends: Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (the planes). Add Survival

still working on adding all the variant classes there, I have been going through dragon mags and I keep finding more stuff such as
Barbarian Backgrounds
Born-Again Barbarian - Dragon magazine 335 pg 84 - Suggested Benefit: add Knowledge (local) as a Barbarian class skill

Druid Organizations
Glendale Park Protectorate - Dragon Magazine 337 pg 95 - members add Knowledge (local) to thier Druid class skill list

Variant Classes
Athasian Sorcerer - Dragon Dragon Magazine 319 pg 97 - add Sleight of Hand
Athasian Wizard - Dragon Dragon Magazine 319 pg 97 - add Sleight of Hand
Thane (Fighter) - Dragon Magazine 323 pg 96 - Replace Intimidate with Diplomacy
Janissary (Fighter) -Dragon Magazine 334 pg 88 - Adds Speal Language and 2 Knowledge skills (of his choice) and loses Handle Animal, Intimidate and Swim

Human Regions -Dragon Magazine 334 pg 60-4 - adds a Class Skill, a Favored Class and suggests common PRCs
Shou Lung - Knowledge (nobility and royalty)
T'U Lung - Knowledge(arcana)
Tabot - Knowledge (relegion)
The Plain of Horses - Ride
The Northern Wastes - Knowledge (spirits)
The Jungle Lands - Survival
The Island Kingdoms - Bluff
Koryo - Knowledge (history)
Kozakura - Intimidate
Wa - Diplomacy


Paladin Domains Substitution Level- Dragon Magazine 328 pg 90 - adds Knowldege (arcana) and Spellcraft

Shadow Soulknife Umbragen Racial Substitution Levels - Dragon Magazine 330 pg 46 - adds Knowledge (dungeoneering) and Survival, replaces Knowledge (psionics) with Knowledge (arcana)


I added a note in the dragon section, that its class skills for RHD levels only, not sure if I should eliminate it or expand it, took a bit of thinking and reading, and I was wrong in my original assumption, but I still think it could have been worded better

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Some more stuff:
o Bluff
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also diplomacy and sense motive)

o Diplomacy
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and sense motive)

o Knowledge (architecture and engineering)
Dwarven Rogue Substitution Levels - Dragon #338, pg. 96

o Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Dwarven Cleric Substitution Levels - Races of Stone

o Sense Motive
Half-Elf Fighter Substitution Levels - Races of Destiny (also bluff and diplomacy)

o Survival
Elf Paladin Substitution Levels - Races of the Wild
Wizard-Illusionist variant, Shadow Shaper (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#shadowShaper): Add Hide

Dragon #311
Ancestral Speaker (Cleric): Replace Knowledge (the planes) with Knowledge (local). Add Perform, Sense Motive, and two any other skills
Arcane Disciple (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana) and Use Magic Device
Aspirant (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Benevolent (Cleric): Add Knowledge (arcana)
Crusader (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (the planes) and Diplomacy. Add Knowledge (arcana), Handle Animal and Intimidate
Evangelist (Cleric): Eliminate Knowledge (history) and Knowledge (the planes). Add Gather Information
Metal Master (Druid): Eliminate Handle Animal. Add Knowledge (architecture and engineering) and Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Wild Reaper (Druid): Add Intimidate
Winter Warden (Druid): Add Knowledge (geography)

Dragon #310
Bodyguard (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Gather Info, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot
Commander (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Diplomacy, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Profession (siege engineer), Sense Motive, and Spot.
Corsair (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Appraise, Balance, Profession(sailor), Spot, and Use Rope
Exoticist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Ride. Add Tumble
Fencer (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Climb, Jump, and Swim. Add Bluff, Diplomacy, and Gather Info
Horseman (Fighter): Eliminate Climb, Intimidate, and Swim. Add Balance and Tumble
Kensai (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal and Intimidate. Add Balance, Concentration, and Tumble
Knight (Fighter): Replace Intimidate with Diplomacy. Add Heal
Pugilist (Fighter): Eliminate Craft, Handle Animal, and Jump. Add Bluff, Sense Motive, and Spot
Shield Bearer (Fighter): Eliminate Swim. Add Diplomacy
Survivalist (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, and Ride. Add Balance, Hide, Move Silently, Survival, and Use Rope
Targetteer (Fighter): Eliminate Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, and Swim. Add Hide, Move Silently, and Profession
Anarch (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), and Ride. Add Bluff, Disable Device, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), and Survival
Avenger (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Bluff, Hide, Intimidate, Knowledge (local), and Move Silently
Enforcer (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, and Knowledge (history)
Incarnate (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty). Add Knowledge (nature), Listen, Sense Motive, and Survival
Sentinel (Paladin): Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Ride. Add Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Spot, and Survival

Dragon #312
Anti-Paladin: Eliminate Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession, and Sense Motive. Add Bluff, Climb, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (the planes), and Survival
Corrupter (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Knowledge (nobility & royalty), Profession. Add Bluff, Disguise, Forgery, Hide, and Knowledge (history)
Despot (Paladin): Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, and Ride. Add Bluff, Intimidate, and Search
Deathwalker (Wizard): Replace Decipher Script with Bluff
Fleshcrafter (Wizard): Eliminate Decipher Script and Profession. Add Heal

Dragon #324
Wild Monk: Eliminate Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perform, and Sense Motive. Add Knowledge (nature) and Survival
Filidh (Wizard): Eliminate Profession. Add Gather Information, Intimidate, Sense Motive, and Survival.

Dragon #317 (pg. 30)
Urban Druid: Eliminate Handle Animal, Heal, Listen, Knowledge (nature), Ride, Spot, Survival, and Swim. Add Bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate, Knowledge (architecture and engineering), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Perform, and Speak Language

Dragon #329 (pg. 94)
Gnome Paladin (variant, not a sub. levels): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Perform (comedy)

Dragon #332 (pg. 90)
Wyrmslayer (Paladin): Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #336 (pg. 105)
Mystic Ranger: Add Spellcraft

Dragon #339 (pg. 90)
Sidhe Scholar (Druid): Add Knowledge (arcana)

Dragon #344 (pg. 104)
Anagakok (Wizard): Add Survival

Dragon #349 (pg. 93)
Paladin variant, Hunter of Fiends: Replace Knowledge (nobility and royalty) with Knowledge (the planes). Add Survival

finished adding the Variant classes and found 3 you missed in dragon 310
Hunter Monk - Dragon 310 - adds Survival
Martial Monk - Dragon 310 - Replace Knowledge skills with Intimidate
Urban Ranger - Dragon 310 - Replace Knowledge (geography) and Knowledge (nature) with Knowledge (local) and Gather Information

also added our very first template

Elder Serpent - Dragon Magazine 313 pg 86-7 - If the Base creature has less than ten class skills, choose additional class skills to bring the total to ten, only adds skills to RHD levels, must be snake or snake like creature

its the only template so far I've seen that adds class skills, most just merely add a bonus to several skills, but I haven't verified every template yet, just merely the ones in dragon 310-359 so far

I also moved the Variant class section below the ACF section, eliminated the dragon section for now, and moved the Sovereign Archetypes into the race section, as they are race specific

[WhamBamSam]

its the only template so far I've seen that adds class skills, most just merely add a bonus to several skills, but I haven't verified every template yet, just merely the ones in dragon 310-359 so farThe variant Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630x&page=1) article adds the skills of the Fiendish parent to RHD.

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The variant Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630x&page=1) article adds the skills of the Fiendish parent to RHD.

added, thanks

[ShurikVch]

The variant Half-Fiend (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630x&page=1) article adds the skills of the Fiendish parent to RHD.That article was continued in "Elite Opponents: More (Half-)Fiendish Variety (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070209a)"

[Troacctid]

The variant classes section is pretty unreadable. Any particular reason why it's not all under alternate class features, sorted by skill like the rest of them?

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That article was continued in "Elite Opponents: More (Half-)Fiendish Variety (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070209a)"

added that, and so far the few templates we have only add to RHD, I've been through a bunch more templates and so far looks like mostly adds a bonus to skills. not actual skills though


The variant classes section is pretty unreadable. Any particular reason why it's not all under alternate class features, sorted by skill like the rest of them?

to start with, I agree its hard to read and noticed it earlier. It originally was only a handful from UA, but then we found a ton more in the pages of Dragon. a lot of them also say eliminate this and gain that, so its a lot of repetitive information, and I'm at the point that I'm worried about running out of room. This was one of my first mirrors and didn't think to leave extra room, like I did in many of my other mirrors.(I really didn't know what I was getting into, LOL)
and the reason these are not in ACF section is they are not ACFs or substitution levels, they are actually variants on the base class, but I did move several that was listed as variant classes, but are really ACFs

Enchanter Variant - Social Proficiency (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#enchanterVariants") gain Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Sense Motive while losing wizard feats every 5 levels
Diviner Variant - Enhanced Awareness (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#divinerVariants) add sense motive and other bonus's while losing familiar
Illusionist variant - Shadow Shaper (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm#shadowShaper) Adds Hide

those belong in the ACF section, despite how they are listed in the SRD

for the moment I broke up the Dragon Magazine Variants into blocks of what class they are Variants of, to make it little easier at reading

[ShurikVch]

added that, and so far the few templates we have only add to RHD, I've been through a bunch more templates and so far looks like mostly adds a bonus to skills. not actual skills thoughIf "RHD only" templates are fair play, then Lycanthrope (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm) and Entomanothrope (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a) are get racial skills of whatever they are "were..."

About the Variant Classes: maybe it would be more readable if we do it like a table?
Something like this:


Skill name

Add

Remove


Appraise
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon #310
Wilderness Rogue

[Troacctid]

For all intents and purposes, they are ACFs, though.

I think if space is at a premium, it's probably not worth having the dragon section, and you could also remove most of the quotes.

[Bullet06320]

If "RHD only" templates are fair play, then Lycanthrope (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm) and Entomanothrope (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a) are get racial skills of whatever they are "were..."

About the Variant Classes: maybe it would be more readable if we do it like a table?
Something like this:


Skill name

Add

Remove


Appraise
Corsair (Fighter) - Dragon #310
Wilderness Rogue



those 2 do add skills, to RHD, so for now why not, lets add them
and thanks for the table, I didn't know how to make them, I think that would confuse me trying to do that, but it did come in handy, I used to reformat the skilled city dweller ACF from the format it was in to a table, looks nicer that way IMO


For all intents and purposes, they are ACFs, though.

I think if space is at a premium, it's probably not worth having the dragon section, and you could also remove most of the quotes.

I had already removed the dragon section, I have it saved in a word doc incase it goes back in at sum point

I did start working on the Variant Class Section, I got all the UA, SRD ones formatted in the same way as the rest, will work on the rest over the weekend

[Bullet06320]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm out of room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got most of the Variant Classes formatted properly by skill

added
Any
Cosmopolitan - FRCS- Choose any 1 nonexclusive skill you do not have as a class skill, it is always a class skill. It was Nerfed in PGtF

its was in the quotes at the bottom

I also found some more stuff in the Oriental Adventure stuff, humans get class skills based on their clan

I'm thinking take the race section, move it to a new thread, put a link there, then I can expand the race section with class skills specifically for RHD

Any Ideas?

[Troacctid]

What I would do is:
* Remove the d20 Modern and d20 Rokugan sections, they're not for D&D 3.5
* Move Skilled City Dweller into the main body, it doesn't need its own section. Likewise for the Favored Soul dead levels.
* Remove the quotes at the end.
* Put Initiate of Shar in the main body instead of a quote. Don't worry about the text/table error. The text is correct. There's even a second printing of it to corroborate it.
* Remove the mentions of Jack of All Trades, Elf Dilettante, and Ancestral Wisdom as "honorable mentions." They don't add class skills so they don't need to be here. (Able Learner is okay though.)
* You don't need to say which classes get mantles.

[Bullet06320]

What I would do is:
* Remove the d20 Modern and d20 Rokugan sections, they're not for D&D 3.5
* Move Skilled City Dweller into the main body, it doesn't need its own section. Likewise for the Favored Soul dead levels.
* Remove the quotes at the end.
* Put Initiate of Shar in the main body instead of a quote. Don't worry about the text/table error. The text is correct. There's even a second printing of it to corroborate it.
* Remove the mentions of Jack of All Trades, Elf Dilettante, and Ancestral Wisdom as "honorable mentions." They don't add class skills so they don't need to be here. (Able Learner is okay though.)
* You don't need to say which classes get mantles.

your right about the d20 modern, got ride of that, and the Rokugan d20 quote I thought was from the OA book, I just never got around to checking, it must be from one of the other books, which would be 3rd party

worked in the last of the quotes except the last one, its an item and does add skill ranks

finally fiqured out how to incorporate the skilled city dweller and it saved a few characters, and apparently the link was broken, fixed that, did the same with the favored soul

I like Initiate of shar how it is, pointing out the error, let people decide for themselves how to deal with it

and I like the honorable mentions section

I added under the race section

Human Racial Traits
Oriental Adventures p 9-10
The Standard PHB traits plus a class skill and favored class depending on your clan
Crab: Knowledge (shadowlands)
Crane: Diplomacy
Dragon: Knowledge (history)
Lion: Knowledge (war) errated to Intimidate in Dragon 318
Phoenix: Knowledge Arcana
Scorpion: Bluff
Unicorn: Ride

managed to work in the last of variant classes too

it took a little bit of editing, but saved tons of room, I abbreviated most of the sources, to the standard abbreviations ToB for tome of battle, RoD for races of destiny, etc etc, that gave me the room to finish

I believe every source has been checked, except living greyhawk gazeteer, which I don't yet own till it arrives from amazon in a couple days, lol
unless someone finds an obscure websource or something other odd thats been over looked, I believe we are complete, thankfully cuz there aint much room left, lol

And thanks to everyone that has helped, only took a few months since I ported it over and almost ten years from the original post to complete, LOL

[Thurbane]

Found a new one:

Escape Artist
Slippery – online (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/bs/20040725a) (bullywug or siv only)

[Bullet06320]

Found a new one:

Escape Artist
Slippery – online (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/bs/20040725a) (bullywug or siv only)

well, 1 more added, good find
thanks

[Thurbane]

Accidentally stumbled on another feat following a link from another forum:

Appraise

Appraise Magic feat - online (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sg/20051125a)

*It is presented alongside an alternate skill system for identifying magic items, so may fall into the same murky area as the Skill Knowledge feat - I believe it works as a standalone feat through, allowing you to use appraise to identify Potions and Scrolls in place of Spellcraft.

[Bullet06320]

added that
and also found this posted in another thread http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?488408-Increasing-maximum-ranks

The Codex Anathema (LoM p 214) grants an inherent +2 int/-2 wis, as well as 5 ranks Knowledge (dungeoneering) and 2 ranks each of Knowledge (arcana) and (the planes).

we have 2 Items, so I combined them into their own section, it doesn't make them class skills, but flat outs adds the ranks, odd but still fits I think

[Thurbane]

Also looked at races/templates, couldn't see the Primordial template (Secrets of Xen'drik), which adds one Knowledge skill as a class skill.

[Bullet06320]

stop finding stuff, LOL

its added too, geuss we missed it along the way

[ShurikVch]

Tauric Creature template:
Treat skills from both the base creature's list and the base humanoid's list as class skills.

[Troacctid]

Oh, here's a nice one: affiliation with the Paragnostic Assembly grants you your choice of Appraise, Decipher Script, any Knowledge skill, Psicraft, or Spellcraft as a class skill for all your classes, if you achieve rank 3. You have to tithe and pay monthly dues to maintain your rank. (Complete Champion, pp72–74)

Also, an affiliation score of 11+ with the Land of Honor grants you Knowledge (nobility and royalty) as a class skill. (Player's Handbook II, p175)

[Thurbane]

I think it's pretty awesome that we are finding all these new things to add to a list that was originally started so long ago. :smallcool:

[Bullet06320]

I think it's pretty awesome that we are finding all these new things to add to a list that was originally started so long ago. :smallcool:

it really is amazing, only took most of ten years to complete, lol

and added those affiliations in a new section, and the tauric template

had to do a little more editing for room, the first post is pretty much full now, I had to remove the now dead link to orginal post for a little bit more room but added


Originally posted on the WOTC boards by Griff on Dec 03, 2006
Continued by Bullet06320 and GitP Community

I think that should give proper credit to everyone that has helped to create this reference, as it was a community project

[magicalmagicman]

For me, grabbing Able Learner and getting all the skills you want via prestige classes was the best way. Messing around with apprentice, or various class skill granting feats was a blood bath.

[Bullet06320]

For me, grabbing Able Learner and getting all the skills you want via prestige classes was the best way. Messing around with apprentice, or various class skill granting feats was a blood bath.

every build is different, this merely presents you with the many options available, some are better than others though

[Thurbane]

Sorry to keep bumping the thread, but I've been trawling the Wizards archive lately for various things, and I've just found another addition.

Silverwood Arcanist (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031209a) (PrC) - Skilled Rider (Ex): any future classes you take after one level in this PrC always have Ride as an additional class skill.

[ShurikVch]

I don't sure how useful that can be, but there is Frenzy Dog (https://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20011025a) template
Skills: If the animal didn't already have these skills, it receives them as class skills: Intimidate, Listen, Spot, and Wilderness Lore. All other class skills get lost in the transformation.

[daremetoidareyo]

I don't sure how useful that can be, but there is Frenzy Dog (https://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20011025a) template

Thank you, I will add this to the forms a hound archon can transform into! http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=20746056&postcount=34

[Bullet06320]

I don't sure how useful that can be, but there is Frenzy Dog (https://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20011025a) template

added that one


Sorry to keep bumping the thread, but I've been trawling the Wizards archive lately for various things, and I've just found another addition.

Silverwood Arcanist (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031209a) (PrC) - Skilled Rider (Ex): any future classes you take after one level in this PrC always have Ride as an additional class skill.

no worries about bumping it, if it belongs it belongs, but that one is odd, its from a Prc
kinda like the Human Paragon http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#humanParagon
Adaptive Learning (Ex)

At 1st level, a human paragon can designate any one of his human paragon class skills as an adaptive skill. This skill is treated as a class skill in all respects for all classes that character has levels in, both current and future. For example, if a human paragon chooses Spot as an adaptive skill, he treats Spot as a class skill for all future class levels he gains, even if it is not normally a class skill for the class in question.

it was originally mentioned in the original thread and again in this thread once or twice

both kinda deserve an honorable mention somewhere, but I'm pretty much at the limit of the first post, ive edited and re edited it several times to save space, any suggestions on working those last 2 in?

[Sian]

I'd exile all Dragon Magazine material to another post and add a link to it, since those are widely considered the 'least' official sources

[Thurbane]

I'd exile all Dragon Magazine material to another post and add a link to it, since those are widely considered the 'least' official sources

That's probably not a bad idea.

Another option, probably a lot more work, is just to create a new thread, port everything over, and reserve yourself two or three posts at the start of the thread.

[Bullet06320]

I'd exile all Dragon Magazine material to another post and add a link to it, since those are widely considered the 'least' official sources

but its still official material, we even have a couple of KoK entries at the bottom of the feats section, its officially licensed at least


Another option, probably a lot more work, is just to create a new thread, port everything over, and reserve yourself two or three posts at the start of the thread.

actually it would just be a copy paste job, wouldn't take me too long, that may be the way the go, then I could add anything from the ravenloft books, its officially licensed at least, in its own section, and it would let me add back and expand the monsters with RHD class skills I had started, I still have those saved in a word doc.
we could even expand to 3rd party in a separate section, with big giant warning label to use at own risk, LOL

plus there could still be a few tidbits hiding in the archives we haven't noticed yet

[Troacctid]

Starting a new thread means losing bookmark and search equity. Better to have another post later in the thread and link to that.

[ShurikVch]

Silverwood Arcanist (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031209a) (PrC) - Skilled RiderSpeaking about the Skilled Rider - Silverwood Outrider (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031202a) PrC have it too

[Bullet06320]

Moved to here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?491181-Alternative-ways-to-get-new-Class-skills&p=20885236#post20885236)

[daremetoidareyo]

Found new one:

City of Stormreach p.111: Guardians of Rusheme+2 Spot checks made in Xen’drik. Gain access to storytelling instructors; Knowledge (history) and Perform (oratory) become class skills.

Affiliation score 11

[WhamBamSam]

Class backgrounds in Cityscape are probably worth mentioning as well.

[Thurbane]

Two things:

1.) Most recent version of this resource can be found here: https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?491181

2.) With anything like this, it's probably better to PM the creator with suggestions: if the thread gets locked as necro, then it makes it difficult for the creator to add or modify anything down the track.