Found this funny errata

[SangoProduction]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/mirror-image

In the errata bit to the side, it says magic missile automatically hits the actual person, ignoring mirror image.

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So, are there no rules for remembering which of them were hit by magic missile? Even if they are allowed to shuffle around after you hit them (within the same square), people can track where the originally hit one was. How would you rule this? A disbelief check (possibly using Intellect or Wisdom as the key ability)?

[Kelb_Panthera]

Several people crammed into a 5ft square, which is the image presented by mirror image, is a jumble of body parts constantly intertwining with one another. It'd be very difficult to see exactly which one the missiles hit and after a bit of shuffling it's close enough to impossible that trying to make up rules for spotting and keeping track would be an exercise in useless dice rolling.

[Inevitability]

Several people crammed into a 5ft square, which is the image presented by mirror image, is a jumble of body parts constantly intertwining with one another. It'd be very difficult to see exactly which one the missiles hit and after a bit of shuffling it's close enough to impossible that trying to make up rules for spotting and keeping track would be an exercise in useless dice rolling.

Aren't exercises in useless dice rolling are like 70% of what we do here? :smalltongue:

[SangoProduction]

Aren't exercises in useless dice rolling are like 70% of what we do here? :smalltongue:

Don't forget useless arguments.

[TheifofZ]

Several people crammed into a 5ft square, which is the image presented by mirror image, is a jumble of body parts constantly intertwining with one another. It'd be very difficult to see exactly which one the missiles hit and after a bit of shuffling it's close enough to impossible that trying to make up rules for spotting and keeping track would be an exercise in useless dice rolling.

Haha! For once, I have information to correct!
Looking up the original Mirror Image, the images are not crammed into a single space. The images are spread out, keeping within 5 feet of eachother. That is to say: Each image must be in one of the grid spaces adjacent to either another image, or the creature who cast the spell. So... I think this bit of errata is a bit silly, actually.

Further, the original version of the spell says that you (the spell-caster) can move into, and through, a Mirror Image, and that if you (the spellcaster) do so, observers can't use vision or hearing to tell which is the original and which the image, if they had figured out which was real in the first place.


Don't forget useless arguments.
Character optimization, useless arguments, mindless bickering, and entirely off-tangent conversations make up about 83% of the conversations here. Usually in that exact order, in the same thread, too.

[Venger]

thurbane's mirror image thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?187521-3-5-The-Mirror-Image-FAQ-thread) as ever is a helpful resource

[Mr Adventurer]

Within 5 feet of each other does mean they're all in a 5 foot space actually.

[Jack_Simth]

thurbane's mirror image thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?187521-3-5-The-Mirror-Image-FAQ-thread) as ever is a helpful resource
Catch: That's for 3.5, the linked copy of Mirror Image is for Pathfinder... and yes, they do have different rules.

Within 5 feet of each other does mean they're all in a 5 foot space actually.
The 3.5 Mirror Image allowed the images to exist as long as they are within 5 feet of you or another image - which means if you have seven images, you can theoretically send them off in pairs running in different directions (although you're supposed to treat them as being in your square), which makes a pretty fair escape plan if your opponent doesn't have any way to distinguish. The Pathfinder version, on the other hand, has them explicitly all in your square - period.

[Kelb_Panthera]

Haha! For once, I have information to correct!
Looking up the original Mirror Image, the images are not crammed into a single space. The images are spread out, keeping within 5 feet of eachother. That is to say: Each image must be in one of the grid spaces adjacent to either another image, or the creature who cast the spell. So... I think this bit of errata is a bit silly, actually.

You'd be absolutely right if this were the 3.X version of the spell. We're discussing the PF version, however, which was nerfed hard.