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dascarletm
2015-11-05, 01:46 PM
I never know what is too much or too little equipment for NPCs I know about the chart on the SRD but I feel as though this is a bit too much. These enemies are intended to fight a group of 5 level 2 PCs. They may have some commoner's to aid them. Basically the village they are staying at is going to be attacked by these riders. I'm thinking 1 dancer and 2 outriders. They both ride giant bees (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/vermin/bees-and-wasps/bee-giant).
Encounter 1: 2 outriders
Encounter 2: 1 dancer, 2 regular kobolds
I'm not sure how to place their actual CRs. The outriders theoretically should be CR 1/2 and the dancer should be CR 2? Adding up the XP, encounters 1 and 2 equate to an overall CR of 4 I think. That should be pretty hard for them. I'm trying to decide if these are appropriate for a party containing a Rogue, Ninja, Magus, Warpriest, and Bard. The players are new and I am used to DMing for experienced players. I haven't DMed for new players for a long time. Do you all think this is too overpowering? My regular group would probably trounce these encounters.

Anyway any thoughts or suggestions? I'm aiming for tough yet not overpowering.

Zogii Outrider
Kobold fighter 1
LE Small humanoid (reptilian)
Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception -1

DEFENSE
AC 18, touch 14, flat-footed 14 (+3 armor, +3 Dex, +1 natural, +1 size)
hp 6 (1d10+1)
Fort +2, Ref +3, Will –1
Weaknesses: light sensitivity

OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft.
Melee spear +2 (1d6/x3)
Ranged shortbow +5 (1d4/x3) or Net +1 (special)

STATISTICS
Str 10, Dex 17, Con 11, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 12
Base Atk +1; CMB -1; CMD 12
Feats: Mounted Combat, Mounted Archery
Skills: Ride +8, Handle Animal +7
Languages Draconic
SQ Beast Bond (+2 to Ride and Handle Animal)
Gear: Studded Leather, Spear, Shortbow, Exotic Saddle, Net

Zogii Airdancer
Kobold fighter 3
LE Small humanoid (reptilian)
Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception -1

DEFENSE
AC 18, touch 14, flat-footed 14 (+4 armor, +3 Dex, +1 natural, +1 size)
hp 16 (3d10)
Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +0
Weaknesses: light sensitivity

OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft.
Melee Lance +5 (1d6/x3) or Scimitar +7 (1d4+3/18-20 x2)
Ranged shortbow +7 (1d4/x3) or Net +3 (special)

STATISTICS
Str 10, Dex 17, Con 11, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 12
Base Atk +3; CMB +2; CMD 15
Feats: Mounted Combat, Ride-By-Attack, Weapon Finesse, Dervish Dance
Skills: Ride +10, Handle Animal +7, Perform (Dance) +3
Languages: Draconic
SQ: Beast Bond (+2 to Ride and Handle Animal)
Gear: Masterwork Chain Shirt, Masterwork Lance, Scimitar, Shortbow, Exotic Saddle, Net, Potion of Cure Light Wounds

CockroachTeaParty
2015-11-05, 01:57 PM
You had me at 'kobold bee riders.'

What level are your PCs?

dascarletm
2015-11-05, 02:15 PM
Level 2, but if need bee (:smallwink:) I could wait till they are 3.

Killer Angel
2015-11-05, 02:21 PM
Level 2, but if need bee (:smallwink:) I could wait till they are 3.

Yeah, it's probably better. I love the idea.

That said, given that you want me to critique your kobolds...
They're ugly! :smalltongue:

dascarletm
2015-11-05, 02:26 PM
Yeah, it's probably better. I love the idea.
Thanks! I thought as much. Perhaps I can have a smaller encounter of just regular kobolds before they meet the riders. Three encounters in a night shouldn't be overwhelming. I'll aim for CR 2 for the first. Then my above encounters. CR 2 - CR 4 - CR 4. They should have a rough time, but should survive.

That said, given that you want me to critique your kobolds...
They're ugly! :smalltongue:

:smallfrown: poor kobolds, nobody loves you.

Killer Angel
2015-11-05, 03:16 PM
:smallfrown: poor kobolds, nobody loves you.

As DM, with the old AD&D, i've played a kobold paladin, with a boar as mount. A sort of RedCloak "ante litteram". :smallwink:

Spore
2015-11-06, 03:08 AM
Please optimize the living crap out of the mounts. I want a mental image of a whole gaming table screaming in horror:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/wijcadxr3rjzpzafjdwr.gif

Killer Angel
2015-11-06, 07:57 AM
Please optimize the living crap out of the mounts. I want a mental image of a whole gaming table screaming in horror:


Swarms are a totally different matter. :smalltongue:

twas_Brillig
2015-11-06, 08:02 AM
Swarms are a totally different matter. :smalltongue:

What most people don't realize about Nicholas Cage's Wicker Man documentary is it's not shot at human scale. The whole cast is hundreds of feet tall, leading to a film history first for the use of giant bees as a form of forced-perspective.