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David Demola
2007-06-02, 03:38 PM
If you get one extra every 3 levels, and since Xykon threw out 5, that puts him within the 15-17 level range.

Just thought I'd give the nerding-out a shot. Feel free to bicker or just flat-out tell me I'm wrong.

Cryo
2007-06-02, 03:40 PM
If you get one extra every 3 levels, and since Xykon threw out 5, that puts him within the 15-17 level range.

Just thought I'd give the nerding-out a shot. Feel free to bicker or just flat-out tell me I'm wrong.

get one what?

Demented
2007-06-02, 03:41 PM
He used magic missile a long time ago, and was similarly guessed back then.
I believe there's a thread for calculating the characters' levels.

jindra34
2007-06-02, 03:41 PM
its capped at five and we already knew he was at least lv. 18 so good try but ahh... nope.

Nerd-o-rama
2007-06-02, 03:42 PM
Well, Magic Missile caps at five missiles, so he's anywhere at or above level 15.

However, since he's a Sorcerer and we've seen him cast ninth level spells, he's at least level 18 in classes that advance his Sorcerer spellcasting. Probably just Sorcerer, or Sorcerer and Archmage.

Adding the +2 CR from the Lich template means he's at least CR 20, and adding the +4 LA means if he were a player character, he'd be the equivalent of level 22 for experience and other purposes.

He might be higher level than that, although I doubt he has more than 20 class levels.

EDIT: Bleedin' ninja.

Cryo
2007-06-02, 03:43 PM
Ah, magic missile...

One per 2 levels in fact, so he'd be 9-10th level :p

But yeah, it's capped at 5.

(from SRD)

For every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile—two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher.

HomerHT
2007-06-02, 03:45 PM
You can do all the nerdy guesstimation you want in this thread here:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4912

Go wild :smallwink:

Rincewind
2007-06-02, 04:38 PM
If you get one extra every 3 levels, and since Xykon threw out 5, that puts him within the 15-17 level range.

Just thought I'd give the nerding-out a shot. Feel free to bicker or just flat-out tell me I'm wrong.

OMG YOU JUST SOLVED THE SECRET!

Closet_Skeleton
2007-06-02, 04:56 PM
Xykon was able to fire 5 magic missiles back in his first fight with Roy so it seems he wasn't weaker then as the Mary Sue thread complained.

Zaldrak
2007-06-02, 05:50 PM
ANY sorcerer or mage Lich can cast maximum power Magic Missile. Look at the Lich prerequisites.

David Demola
2007-06-02, 06:54 PM
its capped at five and we already knew he was at least lv. 18 so good try but ahh... nope.

Ohhh, okay. I wasn't aware of the cap. Good call. I just thought I'd give the argument a go. :)