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Nosta
2015-11-22, 12:48 AM
My pc has a strength of 75
He is large (huge well in armor)
I'd like to know what would be a heavy load for him
and is there away I can make him carry more stuff

FocusWolf413
2015-11-22, 12:56 AM
How did that even happen?

Rubik
2015-11-22, 12:59 AM
How did that even happen?When a mommy storm giant and a daddy tarrasque love each other very much...

Balmas
2015-11-22, 01:14 AM
I too find myself questioning what unholy fusion of races, feats, and prestige classes would result in that strength. My gut instinct is that it's not ECL 20 or rests on a shaky understanding of how bonuses stack.

But to answer your question:

The SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm#weight) for 3.5 states carry weights up to 29, and then states that in order to find carry capacities for strengths above that, you basically subtract 10 from your Strength score and multiply that value's strength score by 4. So for you, we'd take 72, -10-10-10-10-10 to get 22, which has a listed heavy load maximum of 347-520 lbs.

We then multiply 347-520 pounds by four to the fifth power (1024), to get a maximum carryweight of 355,328 - 532,480.

However, there's one more step; these listed values are for Medium bipedal characters. Large bipeds have twice that carryweight, while Huge bipeds have four times what a medium creature can carry. So for your large character--huge while in armor-- you'd be able to carry 710,656-1,064,960 lbs, or 1,421,312-2,129,920 lbs in your armor.

In practice, this will hardly ever see use, because the only time you really need to know your carry capacity is if you're trying to chuck a skyscraper, or if the DM is trying to singlehandedly carry away the dragon's hoard. However, it's nice to know that, should the need arise, you could probably use an apartment building as a clup.

ryu
2015-11-22, 01:27 AM
How did that even happen?

Very carefully I would imagine.

Drezius
2015-11-22, 01:27 AM
How did that even happen?

"And you... hmm... ah! Add +40 to STR."

Forrestfire
2015-11-22, 01:28 AM
My pc has a strength of 75
He is large (huge well in armor)
I'd like to know what would be a heavy load for him
and is there away I can make him carry more stuff

Very.

Because the table (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm) only goes up to 29, we need to use the rules for tremendous strength listed. 75 is 50 higher than 25, so in order to calculate his carrying capcity, we want to use the following formula:

[carrying capacity of Str 25] * 45 = [carrying capacity of Str 75]

Your carrying capacity is 1024 times the carrying capacity of Strength 25. I'm not actually sure how to parse your size here, so here's what you're looking at:



Carrying Capacity
Medium
Large (x2)
Huge (x4)


Light load
272,384 lbs.
~136 tons
544,768 lbs.
~272 tons
1,089,536 lbs.
~545 tons


Medium load
545,792 lbs.
~273 tons
1091584 lbs.
~546 tons
2,183,168 lbs.
~1,092 tons


Heavy load (lift over head)

819,200 lbs.
~409 tons


1,638,400 lbs.
~819 tons

3,276,800 lbs.
~1,638 tons


Lift off ground

1,638,400 lbs.
~819 tons

3276800 lbs.
~1638 tons
6,553,600 lbs.
~3,277 tons


Push or drag
4,096,000 lbs.
2,048 tons
8,192,000 lbs.
4,096 tons
16,384,000 lbs.
8,192 tons



For reference, the roof on Wimbledon's Centre Court (http://cdn.blog.dickssportinggoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Wimbledon-1050x700.jpg) in London, England weighs 3,000 tons. This character can lift it.

CrazyNoob
2015-11-22, 01:39 AM
Consider getting lots and lots of bag of holdings.... with your weight capacity... 35,499 of them... giving you the equiv weight of 53,248,500 lbs/ 26,624.25 TON worth stuff (8,874,750 cu ft).. Consider the PF spell ant haul (lvl 1), target carrying capacity triples...

Rubik
2015-11-22, 01:44 AM
Consider getting lots and lots of bag of holdings.... with your weight capacity... 35,499 of them... giving you the equiv weight of 53,248,500 lbs/ 26,624.25 TON worth stuff (8,874,750 cu ft).. Consider the PF spell ant haul (lvl 1), target carrying capacity triples...A single enveloping pit could potentially carry more.

glitterbaby
2015-11-22, 01:53 AM
I once made a half-minotaur barbarian war hulk charger. Started with an 18 then added a 12 from half-minotar, a 5 from leveling, a +5 from Wishes, a +20 from war hulk, and finally another +4 from a custom story-based template. I was then allowed a custom item of Bite of the Werebear for another +16 enhancement bonus and on a rage I was boasting an 84 strength. It was fun.

Edit: To answer the question, it depends entirely on a lot of other factors. You'll be able to full power attack without any regard so your damage output will be higher than you need, quite honestly. Apart from the damage, remembering back to the character I played, I was still a mundane. I could hit things really hard, carry a lot of things (actually commissioned a massive backpack with chairs to carry the entire party, called it the Yzma), and could break things. Apart from that, I still felt meh. The rest of the party was rather optimized so I fit in pretty well anyway. That is, until I got Massive Swing from War Hulk. I took EWP: Spiked Chain and the Martial Stance feat (I had a level of Warblade to qualify) so I could grab the stance for increased reach. At that point, I was pretty much a walking ball of death.

torrasque666
2015-11-22, 02:00 AM
A single enveloping pit could potentially carry more.
Are you saying an Enveloping Pit could carry more than this monstrosity with all his bags of holding, or something else?

Because by saying "single" you're not allowing nesting them, which is what usually allows for such insane carrying capacity.

So lets check volumes.
A single Portable Hole has a volume of 282.74 cubic feet. A single Enveloping Pit (fully unfolded) has a volume of 1413.72 cubic feet. Simple math gives us type IV Bags. 35,499 bags, 8,874,750 cubic feet.

Granted, varying density of objects will influence how much weight can fit into either a Portable Hole or an Enveloping Pit. A ridiculously dense marble can weigh more than a whole building, if its dense enough.

Flame of Anor
2015-11-22, 02:28 AM
I once made a half-minotaur barbarian war hulk charger. Started with an 18 then added a 12 from half-minotar, a 5 from leveling, a +5 from Wishes, a +20 from war hulk, and finally another +4 from a custom story-based template. I was then allowed a custom item of Bite of the Werebear for another +16 enhancement bonus and on a rage I was boasting an 84 strength. It was fun.

I think you only get 4 increases from leveling, since your LA from half-minotaur means you can't get a full 20 class levels into a 20 ECL. (Can someone confirm this? cough Curmudgeon?) But otherwise, yeah, it looks like this works. Wow.

Rubik
2015-11-22, 03:04 AM
Are you saying an Enveloping Pit could carry more than this monstrosity with all his bags of holding, or something else?

Because by saying "single" you're not allowing nesting them, which is what usually allows for such insane carrying capacity.

So lets check volumes.
A single Portable Hole has a volume of 282.74 cubic feet. A single Enveloping Pit (fully unfolded) has a volume of 1413.72 cubic feet. Simple math gives us type IV Bags. 35,499 bags, 8,874,750 cubic feet.

Granted, varying density of objects will influence how much weight can fit into either a Portable Hole or an Enveloping Pit. A ridiculously dense marble can weigh more than a whole building, if its dense enough.I meant a portable hole could carry more than him without all the extra carrying space. And a portable hole contains 5,000 cubic feet. 10' x 10' x 50'. That's 8,100,000 lbs of osmium.

Crake
2015-11-22, 04:15 AM
I meant a portable hole could carry more than him without all the extra carrying space. And a portable hole contains 5,000 cubic feet. 10' x 10' x 50'. That's 8,100,000 lbs of osmium.

I think you mean an eveloping pit.

Rubik
2015-11-22, 04:21 AM
I think you mean an eveloping pit.Yes. And they're a type of portable hole. :smalltongue:

FocusWolf413
2015-11-22, 08:53 AM
When a mommy storm giant and a daddy storm giant love each other very much...

They create a baby with a strength 25 higher than themselves?

Rubik
2015-11-22, 09:06 AM
They create a baby with a strength 25 higher than themselves?Go look again.

How did you even do that, anyway?

Acanous
2015-11-22, 09:19 AM
Can't help but notice that the guy who got to 84 with a +16 homebrew didn't use any enhancement bonuses.

You can get a +8 for carry capacity from Muleback chords.

So it's doable to 76 without any homebrew.

AvatarVecna
2015-11-22, 09:22 AM
That's a lot of Str, but I've seen more...even on non TO builds. Of course, Icve made a lot of Hulking Hurlers...

Optimizing carrying capacity is fun.

AvatarVecna
2015-11-22, 09:23 AM
Can't help but notice that the guy who got to 84 with a +16 homebrew didn't use any enhancement bonuses.

You can get a +8 for carry capacity from Muleback chords.

So it's doable to 76 without any homebrew.

That's not homebrew, it's a 3.5 spell, which is where everything else in that same build comes from.

ben-zayb
2015-11-22, 09:55 AM
That's a lot of Str, but I've seen more...even on non TO builds. Of course, Icve made a lot of Hulking Hurlers...

Optimizing carrying capacity is fun.

Or just someone at the very early (i.e less a month or two) stage of Festering Anger.

AvatarVecna
2015-11-22, 09:59 AM
Or just someone at the very early (i.e less a month or two) stage of Festering Anger.

As I said, even while avoiding TO; obviously bringing in cheese like that makes this pointless.

Acanous
2015-11-22, 10:37 AM
Ah, Festering Anger. Just like a Tainted Scholar, but for melee.

ZamielVanWeber
2015-11-22, 11:58 AM
That's not homebrew, it's a 3.5 spell, which is where everything else in that same build comes from.

It is a custom magic item, which are sort of a variant? The rules are clear how to make one if you are allowed though.


I think you only get 4 increases from leveling, since your LA from half-minotaur means you can't get a full 20 class levels into a 20 ECL. (Can someone confirm this? cough Curmudgeon?) But otherwise, yeah, it looks like this works. Wow.

He probably bought off half-minotaur. In my experience LA buy off is more common than not.

AvatarVecna
2015-11-22, 12:34 PM
It is a custom magic item, which are sort of a variant? The rules are clear how to make one if you are allowed though.

The rules for making custom magic items exist, and are not presented as variant rules. They are just as legal as anything else in Core, even if it makes people all kinds of butthurt.

He probably bought off half-minotaur. In my experience LA buy off is more common than not.[/QUOTE]

Seconded. LA buyoff is a variant rule (presented in unearthed Acana specifically as a variant rule) that's pretty popular around here, since LA is generally considered terrible.

glitterbaby
2015-11-22, 03:18 PM
Yup it was a custom magic item of continuous Bite of the Werebear. The spell grants a +16 enhancement bonus to strength, a +2 enhancement bonus to dexterity, a +8 enhancement bonus to constitution, a +7 enhancement bonus to natural armor, two claw attacks, a bite attack, and the Bind-Fight and Power Attack feats. The thing was expensive though, it cost 528k and I didn't get it until level 21.

Edit: And yes, I was allowed to buy off the half-mino

Âmesang
2015-11-22, 08:11 PM
Out of curiosity, might Nosta be wearing the golem armor major artifact from the Epic Level Handbook/d20 SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/artifacts.htm#golemArmor)? That was the first thing that came to mind when reading "he is large (huge well in armor)." Size increase of one (up to Colossal) with a +10 enhancement to Strength; perhaps it's being assumed that the size increase is boosting Strength by +8 as it would for monster advancement?

atemu1234
2015-11-23, 09:46 AM
So how about we just put a stronghold on this guy's back, and have a moving base of operations?