Another Player is the mount?

[SangoProduction]

So, I've had someone want to play a dragon (http://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Dragon_(3.5e_Class)). Someone else want to play a dragon rider. They seem OK with it. I'd definitely allow it, but....I want to know what the rules are, exactly.

As far as I know the only limitations are that the mount is "able and willing". But that's not exactly telling me what makes them "able".

I'd, personally, rule that the dragon have to be at least 1 size category larger than the rider, and the dragon not be carrying more than a medium load to serve as a mount.

[Ralcos]

So, I've had someone want to play a dragon (http://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Dragon_(3.5e_Class)). Someone else want to play a dragon rider. They seem OK with it. I'd definitely allow it, but....I want to know what the rules are, exactly.

As far as I know the only limitations are that the mount is "able and willing". But that's not exactly telling me what makes them "able".

I'd, personally, rule that the dragon have to be at least 1 size category larger than the rider, and the dragon not be carrying more than a medium load to serve as a mount.

In terms of the rules, you're basically right.
Dracomnicon is a good book for stuff like this, including cohorts and even familiars!

[WalkingTheShade]

I hope you actually mean "Another player character is the mount" or you know, *implications*...

[Âmesang]

Aww, and here I came in expecting a halfling/gnome and a half-orc playing as Master Blaster…

[ben-zayb]

Would this (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050125a) help?

[Florian]

So, I've had someone want to play a dragon (http://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Dragon_(3.5e_Class)). Someone else want to play a dragon rider. They seem OK with it. I'd definitely allow it, but....I want to know what the rules are, exactly.

As far as I know the only limitations are that the mount is "able and willing". But that's not exactly telling me what makes them "able".

I'd, personally, rule that the dragon have to be at least 1 size category larger than the rider, and the dragon not be carrying more than a medium load to serve as a mount.

The only real thing you have to watch out for is the changed economy of actions on those double teams.

[Flickerdart]

If the rider just wants to sit on the dragon and hit things that are nearby, this works exactly like a normal party configuration. The real tricky part comes when the rider wants to, for example, charge.

[SangoProduction]

If the rider just wants to sit on the dragon and hit things that are nearby, this works exactly like a normal party configuration. The real tricky part comes when the rider wants to, for example, charge.

Yeah. I was thinking about that, because normally it takes a move action to direct your mount (so you don't gain anything but move speed, and potential lance stuff by being mounted), but when it's a a player character (or even an NPC dragon that you convinced to let you ride it), would it still take a move action?

Considering how weak mounted play is often considered (with the exception of uber mount builds...where the rider is but a tool and the mount is what does work), I'm considering saying just "no it wouldn't". (Also I am playing at a slightly higher than average level of power...because I'm using Tome stuff, which is just awesome for martials.)


Would this (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050125a) help?

Yes. It would. Thanks.

EDIT: In fact, I was just about to ask..."What if your mount's size is greater than the reach of your weapon?" And it answered it. Just make the entire mount's space your own, then apply your reach.

[Flickerdart]

Yeah. I was thinking about that, because normally it takes a move action to direct your mount (so you don't gain anything but move speed, and potential lance stuff by being mounted), but when it's a a player character (or even an NPC dragon that you convinced to let you ride it), would it still take a move action?
Talking is a free action.

[Fouredged Sword]

Note, the use of the ride skill will let the rider deflect some attacks otherwise aimed at the mount. This is nasty for an ubercharger mount / defensive rider combo.