PF - Android Forges, How Do They Work?

[unseenmage]

Are there any canon examples of how the tech device that allows androids to be reborn works?

Does it function with partial corpses?

Does the corpse have to be recently deceased?

Does the deceased have to be an android?

Would it rebirth an undead like the the Rebirthing Chamber?

We plan to use them in a real life PF game so any info (and sources!) would be helpful.

[Florian]

Are there any canon examples of how the tech device that allows androids to be reborn works?

Does it function with partial corpses?

Does the corpse have to be recently deceased?

Does the deceased have to be an android?

Would it rebirth an undead like the the Rebirthing Chamber?

We plan to use them in a real life PF game so any info (and sources!) would be helpful.

Well, actual sources are scarce but bring the topic to a T.
Look up:
- People of the Stars.
- Fires of Creation.

The short of it: An Android Forge creates a "real" person, soul and everything. If no android soul is available, this creation while stem form "nothing".
An android that dies will be reborn as a fresh android when the chance arises, remembering nothing of its former life.
Androids can turn undead when forces to and function in that way, until slain,

[Ninjaxenomorph]

At android forges, new ones are created, but not necessarily reborn; at the end of its natural life cycle, the android passes on, and a new soul inhabits the shell. That, and the fact that new androids are rarely created, are the reasons that androids tend to be very protective of each other.

[unseenmage]

Now I was under the impression that an Android couldn't be reborn without an Android forge. Is that not so?

[Ninjaxenomorph]

From the pathfinder wiki (http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Android): "None—not even the Androffans who created androids—know or understand how or why souls enter android bodies. An android's soul leaves their complex, undecaying artificial body about once a century, the shell lying dormant for up to 3 weeks (often in a coffin that resembles an android foundry's incubator, though such a vessel is not required) until a new soul enters.

A deceased android's soul follows the path of other mortal souls, and through a process known as renewal, its nanites reinvigorate its body to its youthful appearance, reset its mind, and install a new soul. A renewed android effectively starts life as a new creature, though with occasional dreams from its last occupant. This reset is voluntary; androids once rebelled against their masters to classify a manual renewal as murder.

Looks like they aren't necessary. Although, one could easily make the argument that an android would want to return to where it was created to die, so that the new android could be among other new androids.

[unseenmage]

Thank you Ninjaxenomorph.

Weirder question, as corpses can be Animate Object-ed could an Android corpse get ensoulled while its being otherwise animated?

Edit:
Also curious if an Android Forge should/could/would allow the transformation of a creature into an Android while letting it retain its memories.

If not the Android Forge then what should such a tech artifact be called?

[noob]

Welcome to the core side.
Well if you want to put an human into a something other there is something made for that: Neurocam and clonepod.
it is never said that you can not clone an construct or an android(you just need your android to have genetic material so make an android with a wooden part and then take a sample from the wooden part and since it is a part of the android cloning it will result in an android(does works only with rules as written"exact replica of the creature from which the genetic material was harvested" means that it works with androids if you created them with some wooden parts)).
So clone an android and with a neurocam upload the mind of an human.
You can even upload the mind of a wizard or any other thing in 100 different clones since nothing forbids from doing the procedure while the original person is alive(you are only going to need 100 samples from the android and 100 neurocams)
As a plus it done with no artifacts at all and is cheap.(one 60,000 GC item and one 36,000 GC item)
Join core now and be immortal(the best thing to do is to upload yourself in an AI and all your class powers will be transmitted to all the robots you control)

[twas_Brillig]

PFSRD link (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/goods-and-services/technological-gear)
Technically it says "genetic" and not "organic". Assuming an android has genetic information in general, it shouldn't matter whether the material is organic. So definitely a DM fiat question, but I think you could argue from a place of sufficiently advanced technology that the clonepod can figure out a blueprint for an android.

If you can clone an android, though, it may not be the best way of getting a human (or otherwise) mind into an android body:

If the clone's body and mind are not from the same source, all six ability scores are permanently reduced by 2 points.

[Jack_Simth]

PFSRD link (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/goods-and-services/technological-gear)
Technically it says "genetic" and not "organic". Assuming an android has genetic information in general, it shouldn't matter whether the material is organic. So definitely a DM fiat question, but I think you could argue from a place of sufficiently advanced technology that the clonepod can figure out a blueprint for an android.

If you can clone an android, though, it may not be the best way of getting a human (or otherwise) mind into an android body:

With an addendum of that if the soul isn't available, it suffers more, and can never advance. Which, you know, is actually a great way of making simulacrums of yourself... they're not nearly as crippled as the standard type (2-4 points of ability reduction is usually much less of a power drop than is half level).

Of course, it also dosn't give you assured control....

[noob]

You did not died so your soul could not have been judged so the clone get only the standard clone penalties(removed by one casting of a spell) and -2 to all the stats
"A mind uploaded into a clone after its soul has been judged results in a soulless approximation of the original. Such a creature has its Charisma permanently reduced by 2 points (which cannot be restored), and has no ability to grow more powerful or gain levels (similar to a simulacrum)."
So since your soul was never judged(you did not died) your clone is not soul less and can gain levels and have no charisma penalty.