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Triskavanski
2015-12-29, 11:58 AM
A bit of a silly design, but one I had come with a while back.

Human Summoner
1: Nature Soul, Skilll Focus (Any Knowledge Skill)
3: Eldritch Bloodline (Arcane)
5: Animal Ally
7: Leadership.

So by level 7 you'll have an eidolon, Familiar, Animal companion, and a cohort.

Some silly things you could with it so far is get a bipedal Eidolon and have it ride your animal companion while you play the part of a cohort.

You could do this also as any other race, but humans get it fastest.

What other silly things could we do with this to push it further?

Psyren
2015-12-29, 01:12 PM
You could do this also as any other race, but humans get it fastest.

Half-elves too since they get Skill Focus as a bonus feat.



What other silly things could we do with this to push it further?

Shadowdancer for the shadow companion? Or maybe dip that alchemist archetype that gives you a homunculus companion at level 1. Or both!

Eldonauran
2015-12-29, 01:12 PM
I put something like this together before:

Human Alchemist (Promethean archetype) (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo---alchemist-archetypes/promethean-alchemist-alchemist-archetype)
Variant Multiclass Summoner (for the lulz, and eidolon)
Tumor Familiar (Protector Archetype)
Animal Ally/Nature Soul/Boon Companion feats
Leadership or Torchbearer (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/torchbearer) (can be taken at level 5)

That leaves you with:
Homunculus Companion
Summonable Eidolon
Familiar
Animal Companion
Minion with character levels

If you want to be Chaotic Neutral, worship Calistra and have an improved familiar at level 5, just take wasp familiar (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/wasp-familiar) as well.


1) Nature Soul, Wasp Familiar
2) Discovery (Tumor Familiar)
3) Whatever you want, retrain to Animal Ally at level 4
5) Boon Companion or Torchbearer*
7) Which ever you didn't take last time

Inevitability
2015-12-29, 04:02 PM
And here I was thinking this was going to be about Junji Ito's work...

Âmesang
2015-12-29, 05:13 PM
Are you really an "army of one" if there's… more than one?

Triskavanski
2015-12-29, 05:23 PM
Well, one PC. I guess it would be more of a Party of One, since there is only like five or six in there anyways.

yellowrocket
2015-12-29, 05:33 PM
Only one pc. So I guess? Sounds like a solo adventure concept

Florian
2015-12-29, 06:24 PM
Screw Calistra, be LN instead and enter the Diabolist PrC for an additional Imp Companion.

Eldonauran
2015-12-29, 07:42 PM
Screw Calistra, be LN instead and enter the Diabolist PrC for an additional Imp Companion.

Eh, well if you had the choice of simply having a Wasp familiar (albet one that can get Imp Statistics) and saving one(ish) feats by taking the Diabolist PrC for an Imp Companion, it might be something to consider. However ... advising the OP's character to take that prestige class is counter intuitive as it ruins the progression of at least one of their other companion's progressions (either the Eidolon or Homunculus companion, whichever they went with).

Besides, who wants to be 'Damned', anyway?

EDIT: Although ... Hmm.... The Imp Companion appears to have its own 'niche' as neither an animal companion nor a familiar. If Boon Companion worked for it AND the Eidolon/Homunculus Companion, you could take a 4 level dip into the PrC and end unscathed by your diversion.

Grod_The_Giant
2015-12-29, 07:44 PM
Don't forget to make your cohort a Skald or something for buffing your horde of mooks.

grarrrg
2015-12-30, 01:51 AM
If you can stand a 4 level jaunt into Cavalier, the Horse Master (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/horse-master-combat) feat will add a full progression Mount to your horde.

Psyren
2015-12-30, 02:55 AM
If you can stand a 4 level jaunt into Cavalier, the Horse Master (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/horse-master-combat) feat will add a full progression Mount to your horde.

He already has Animal Ally, which combines with Mount rather than giving him a second critter.

Florian
2015-12-30, 03:26 AM
Eh, well if you had the choice of simply having a Wasp familiar (albet one that can get Imp Statistics) and saving one(ish) feats by taking the Diabolist PrC for an Imp Companion, it might be something to consider. However ... advising the OP's character to take that prestige class is counter intuitive as it ruins the progression of at least one of their other companion's progressions (either the Eidolon or Homunculus companion, whichever they went with).

Besides, who wants to be 'Damned', anyway?

EDIT: Although ... Hmm.... The Imp Companion appears to have its own 'niche' as neither an animal companion nor a familiar. If Boon Companion worked for it AND the Eidolon/Homunculus Companion, you could take a 4 level dip into the PrC and end unscathed by your diversion.

The Imp Companion is based on character levels, not class levels, though, so dipping one level in the PrC will net you an always scaling companion.

grarrrg
2015-12-30, 03:44 AM
He already has Animal Ally, which combines with Mount rather than giving him a second critter.

Drat.
Is there an 'easy' way to get a (semi?) scaling Animal Companion instead?
Because normally a Companion and Mount don't have to stack, it's just the wording of that dang feat...

Psyren
2015-12-30, 05:41 AM
Drat.
Is there an 'easy' way to get a (semi?) scaling Animal Companion instead?
Because normally a Companion and Mount don't have to stack, it's just the wording of that dang feat...

Animal Ally does scale, or am I misreading your question? You can even erase the penalty with Boon Companion.

Triskavanski
2015-12-30, 09:15 AM
Actually there is a few other bloodlines I could pick up due to those bloodline familiars. Which there are a few good ones there too, I kinda like the Celestial one to get valet familiar who can do some small bits of healing. Or Fey so you can trick bad peoples.

Mithril Leaf
2015-12-30, 05:47 PM
He already has Animal Ally, which combines with Mount rather than giving him a second critter.

This would however make his animal companion scale up to his hit dice +1 as it's maximum bonus however. According to John Compton at least: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q9f7&page=3?The-ARG-race-restriction-and-favored-class#141

grarrrg
2015-12-30, 10:18 PM
Animal Ally does scale, or am I misreading your question?

Misreading.
It is possible for a character to have an Animal Companion AND a Mount, as separate creatures.

Animal Ally auto-stacks with EITHER a Companion or a Mount.

Horse Master is a 4 level investment for a Mount that continues to scale.
Is there an easy way to get a Companion to scale as well? So that we can have both?

Talieth
2015-12-31, 07:58 AM
Also, going Spiritualist form Occult Adventures get you a phantom AND two Skill focus feats (but only while your phantom is confined in your consciousness , so I guess this could not be used to qualify for Eldritch Heritage)

Florian
2015-12-31, 08:18 AM
*Thinking*

I think maximum levels of army-of-one-ness can be reached with a base of H-Elf Occultist (Conjuration, Illusion and Necromancy Implements), VMC Druid (and Improved Companion later), Eldritch Heritage into Arcane Bloodline, a one-level dip into Diabolist.

Permanent:
- Animal Companion
- Imp Companion
- (Improved) Familiar

Semi-Permanent:
- Servitor
- Shadow Beast
- Skeleton(s)
(And that w/o expending any spell slots)

Most important item to buy at the point: A Visage of the Bound.

Naturally, either a Summoner or a Spiritualist would give an Eidolon or Phantom, but they can´t throw out that many scaling creatures along the way.

(Edit) Fixed typo.

grarrrg
2015-12-31, 11:50 PM
It'd be painful Feat-wise (and would likely require retraining), but a Cavalier 4/Summoner 16 taking VMC Druid could get
Full progression Mount (Cavalier + Horse Master feat)
Full Progression Animal Companion (VMC Druid, could also VMC Cleric taking Animal Domain, but wouldn't kick in until level 15).
Familiar at -2 effective level for "special abilities" (Eldritch Heritage > Arcane).
A level 16 Eidolon.

Would recommend Half-Elf for race, as the free Skill Focus feat helps with Eldritch Heritage, and +1/4 Evo points each level would help make up for the lost levels.

Triskavanski
2016-01-01, 12:33 AM
Well, now we don't have to do arcane to get a familiar by the way.

Bloodline Familiars (http://www.archivesofnethys.com/ArchetypeDisplay.aspx?FixedName=Familiar%20Bloodli ne%20Familiars)

any of those bloodlines can take a bloodline familiar

Psyren
2016-01-01, 01:14 PM
It'd be painful Feat-wise (and would likely require retraining), but a Cavalier 4/Summoner 16 taking VMC Druid could get
Full progression Mount (Cavalier + Horse Master feat)
Full Progression Animal Companion (VMC Druid, could also VMC Cleric taking Animal Domain, but wouldn't kick in until level 15).
Familiar at -2 effective level for "special abilities" (Eldritch Heritage > Arcane).
A level 16 Eidolon.

Would recommend Half-Elf for race, as the free Skill Focus feat helps with Eldritch Heritage, and +1/4 Evo points each level would help make up for the lost levels.

You'd want to squeeze some Promethean Alchemist in there for the homunculus companion too

Florian
2016-01-01, 03:12 PM
As a side question (Being AFB right now): What do you think, would the Horse Master feat stack with the Ghostrider Cavalier archetype?

Psyren
2016-01-01, 05:24 PM
As a side question (Being AFB right now): What do you think, would the Horse Master feat stack with the Ghostrider Cavalier archetype?

Ghost Rider gets neither Expert Trainer nor Mount, so it wouldn't be able to take or benefit from Horse Master.