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Jowgen
2016-01-05, 05:51 PM
I am looking for Spells that fit the following criteria:

- Base-class spell-level 1-6
- Can not be offensive/damaging
- Can not have Evil descriptor
- Should have a Good-aligned, Nature, Celestial and/or Fey-theme
- Must be useful out of combat in some way

and the main one

- must be useful to have as a 1/week, 1/day or at most 3/day SLA

Looking at a 3.0/5 game, all WoTC-official sources allowed.

All input appreciated.

Troacctid
2016-01-05, 06:03 PM
Planar Ally seems pretty good.

Jowgen
2016-01-05, 06:06 PM
Planar Ally seems pretty good.

It does, but strikes me as having too many offensive uses; based on how the called creature can contribute to battle. :smallfrown:

johnbragg
2016-01-05, 06:37 PM
It does, but strikes me as having too many offensive uses; based on how the called creature can contribute to battle. :smallfrown:

Does that rule out polymorph?

ExLibrisMortis
2016-01-05, 06:45 PM
Fabricate is nice. Various divinations are good, like commune and augury, and of course arcane sight and true seeing. Teleport and plane shift, plus overland flight. Greater magic weapon and magic vestment, unless they're too combat-related. Geas/quest is pretty cool for certain purposes. Mount and blockade are amazing at-will, but 1/day probably doesn't cut it.

Seward
2016-01-05, 06:52 PM
Depending on your caster level - I'd favor long duration utility spells or "oh crap" spells. I'm sticking to spells that have out of combat uses as requested, which leaves a number of things like see invisibility out.

some of my favorites

utility/mobility/infiltration

unseen servant or servant horde
tenser's disc
phantom steed or shadow walk (or mount, I guess)
overland flight (or any fly or maneuver underwater spell)
veil (or seeming, but veil's much better)
rope trick/secure shelter/magnificent mansion
tongues, detect thoughts or similar.
fabricate, minor/major creation, wall of stone, stone shape
freedom of movement (or grease, reduce person or similar)

"oh crap" spells
dimension door, teleport
invisibility and its variants

Troacctid
2016-01-05, 06:55 PM
Celestial Fortress maybe. It's thematic and you only need it once a day.

ericgrau
2016-01-05, 08:23 PM
Hallucinatory terrain
Mirage arcana
Geas/Quest
Forbiddance
Contact Other Plane
Commune
Transport via plants
Speak with plants
Warp wood
Wood shape
Speak with animals
Meld into stone
Speak with dead

ATHATH
2016-01-06, 11:30 AM
Create Lantern Archon (its casting time is reduced to a standard action when it's an SLA)

Fey Ring (like Planar Binding, but for fey; it requires a minute to convince the fey to help you, so you'd need to cast it pre-combat)

Check out a Chameleon thread or two, and pick out the "good" options.

ATHATH
2016-01-06, 11:33 AM
Oh, I almost forgot- Otto's Irresistible Dance.

ericgrau
2016-01-06, 12:31 PM
Oh yeah, wood wose (SpC).

Uncle Pine
2016-01-06, 02:09 PM
Door to Great Evil definitely deserves a mention.

EDIT: Unless the "must have out of combat utility" clause rules out spells used to get into combat. :smallamused:

Fouredged Sword
2016-01-07, 07:21 AM
Restoration, Some Cure spells, heal.

Âmesang
2016-01-07, 08:25 AM
Do adepts count as a "base class?" :smallbiggrin: They get heal as a 5th-level spell.

Jowgen
2016-01-07, 06:11 PM
I am debating Remove Curse or Break Enchantment, but I'm not sure which one would be better.

How many genuinely serious things are there that Break Enchantment can cure when Remove Curse can't?

Troacctid
2016-01-07, 06:36 PM
Break Enchantment and Remove Curse are probably better to pick up as scrolls. It's unlikely you'll need them on a regular basis.

ericgrau
2016-01-07, 08:17 PM
Break Enchantment and Remove Curse are probably better to pick up as scrolls. It's unlikely you'll need them on a regular basis.

Yeah I'd feel pretty jipped getting them as an SLA. Or maybe you could make them 1/month SLAs so that it acts similar to a scroll. And then provide earlier access to them too since it's so rarely useful, before a caster would get them.

Sgt. Cookie
2016-01-07, 10:37 PM
Polymorph.

There's few battles that can't be solved via the correct application of an X-Headed Cryo-hydra.