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The Vorpal Tribble
2007-06-13, 10:02 AM
Ok, I'm working on something and I thought I had found some perfect creatures to go along with it, hell cats and hell hounds... but despite their theme and appearance they are lawful instead of chaotic.

So what I'm needing is chaotic evil outsiders with at least a vague resemblance to a feline or canine. Anyone know of such?

Iku Rex
2007-06-13, 10:09 AM
Jarilith, lion-demon, MM2, CR13.

The Vorpal Tribble
2007-06-13, 10:12 AM
Jarilith, lion-demon, MM2, CR13.
Crud, any 3.5 source creatures?

Attilargh
2007-06-13, 10:13 AM
Technically, as the Nine Hells are Lawful by nature, the alignments are perfectly appropriate. :smallwink:

How about... Howlers (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/howler.htm)? If we go outside the Outsider type, there are Hieracosphinxes (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/sphinx.htm#hieracosphinx).

Yechezkiel
2007-06-13, 10:23 AM
How about Chimera? They are AL (Usually) CE.


P.s. Yes I know they're not Outsiders, maybe we can pretend for this.

AwfulLawful
2007-06-13, 10:39 AM
Just change the Hellhounds alignment to C/E... that should solve the problem..

Iku Rex
2007-06-13, 10:47 AM
Crud, any 3.5 source creatures?There's a 3.5 update booklet for the MM2 here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a).

(Not much help if you only have 3.5 books of course.)

jamroar
2007-06-13, 10:53 AM
Ok, I'm working on something and I thought I had found some perfect creatures to go along with it, hell cats and hell hounds... but despite their theme and appearance they are lawful instead of chaotic.

So what I'm needing is chaotic evil outsiders with at least a vague resemblance to a feline or canine. Anyone know of such?

You could just apply the fiendish template to a (dire?) cat or dog.

Inyssius Tor
2007-06-14, 10:05 PM
There are the chaotic evil Vorrs in Fiend Folio, as well as the were-Vorr-shapeshifter Canomorph Vultivores and the Blood Fiends (technically undead (extraplanar), but made from dead Outsiders (Chaotic, Evil)).

Also, there's the Marruspawn Abomination from Sandstorm. It's (native), though, and at CR 19 it might not be so helpful. The text says "any evil", but it looks pretty chaotic to me (since it's basically unbound rage given form).

Skyserpent
2007-06-14, 10:18 PM
Can one make an Anarchic Hellhound? (Using the template)

AtomicKitKat
2007-06-14, 11:31 PM
Jariliths(MM2) and Vorres(FF) are your best bet, frankly. Just get the 3.5 update for them and you're set.

Callos_DeTerran
2007-06-14, 11:45 PM
I think a Hell Cat would implode if given the Anarchic template. Its a baatezu so suddenly turning chaotic would sever it's ties to the Nine Hells in a rather abrupt way.

As for replacements...fiendish half-red dragon dire wolves and fiendish air element(This may be an out-dated source)/shadow dire puma?

Dhavaer
2007-06-15, 12:25 AM
Howlers are sort of feline.