[Spoilers/Discussion/Speculation] Heimdall can Save the World!

[Thanatos 51-50]

So, it's been established that, now that he knows of Hel's plan AFTER he cast his vote Tyr Heimdall (a deity which specifically has a hotline to the High Priest of Tyr Heimdall) doesn't want the world to end. World 3.0, Tyr Heimdall now figures, is a Bad Idea for Dwarfkind.
Good on you, Tyr Heimdall.

But, seriously. If Roy's plan (Eliminating the High Priest of Hel) would have worked in the first place, then we have the High Priest of Tyr Heimdall RIGHT THERE with a DIRECT HOTLINE to his deity. Additionally, it has been established that the mortals in attendance not only know Roy's plan and understand the mechanics of how it forks, but know that Tyr Heimdall is bound to His previous vote by the infamous No Backsies rule.

Mechanically speaking, the Living (Or Unliving) High Priest of the Deity must be A) Alive and B) on the floor. From here, the High Priest of Tyr Heimdall can save the day in the following ways:

1) The HP can kill themselves. Now there is no longer a representative of Tyr Heimdall on the floor. The tie is broken. World 3.0 is on hold.
2) If Durkula can abdicate his position as the High Priest of Hel, so can Tyr Heimdall's High Priest, specifically to literally anybody not in the room. The Tie is broken, World 3.0 on Hold.

So, the question remains: why has nobody (specifically, the High Priest of Tyr Heimdall, the HPoTHPoHd's bodyguards, and double-especially Tyr Heimdall Himself, who is a literal War Deity who definitely understands the use and benefit of strategic losses and retreats figured this out? If they have, why are they not acting upon the information? Does this make Roy's plan (eliminating Durkula) a moot point? HPoTHPoHd's death would serve the same purpose, and it would even be a noble/honourable death assuming they don't want to be resurrected, so they even get a free ticket to Valhalla out of the deal.

What information is Rich hiding from us?

[hroþila]

So, it's been established that, now that he knows of Hel's plan AFTER he cast his vote Tyr (a deity which specifically has a hotline to the High Priest of Tyr) doesn't want the world to end. World 2.0, Tyr now figures, is a Bad Idea for Dwarfkind.
Where did you get any of this?

[Thanatos 51-50]

Where did you get any of this?

Legitimate response, and it has caused me to check the comics again.
I, of course, meant Heimdal. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1001.html)

My mistake. I will edit everything appropriately.

[factotum]

Rich has said explicitly that he isn't going to present a solution in the comic where someone killing themselves is seen as a good thing to be doing. As for the other thing, the priests are generally high priests of their Gods because they agree with what their gods want to do, and Heimdall most definitely voted to destroy the world. He might not like Hel's plan, but that doesn't mean he's changed his mind about the Snarl being such an imminent danger that they should be ending the world now, not leaving it to chance.

[gia]

1) If the HPoHeimdall kills themselves:

a) by order of their god, that is a backsie, so not allowed. The god could still try and weasel out of it, but by bard rules he'd be discovered.
b) by their own will, that is a death without honor, he goes to Hel, to the most avenging vengeance possible. The priest could still do it, but that's a reason he might not want to.

2) resigns

a) same
b) now he is not protected, he would have to rush to get a honorable death before he gets sent to Hel for revenge.

3) He could try to put himself in a position where an honorable death has a high chance of happening to him and it totes wasn't their intention. Them starting the brawl would have signaled the intention to lead the story that way (first we start a brawl then we happen to hit/get hit by a priest, oops), but no.

[Legato Endless]

1) The HP can kill themselves. Now there is no longer a representative of Tyr Heimdall on the floor. The tie is broken. World 3.0 is on hold.
2) If Durkula can abdicate his position as the High Priest of Hel, so can Tyr Heimdall's High Priest, specifically to literally anybody not in the room. The Tie is broken, World 3.0 on Hold.

Because Loki created a rule that forbids anyone from backing out after the votes are cast, which is what you're proposing. Durkon is able to leave because he left his position to another in the room. Now, if you want to state, Hel is circumventing a lot of rules, then sure, she lawyered up before the moot began. But just because we've seen some creative workarounds happen doesn't mean they all work. It's entirely possible a priest dying (willfully or not) directly violates the terms of the agreement. We don't know what circumstances Loki specified when he created the rule, so there's no knowing if this is possible.

A lot of the speculation for possible work arounds for the byzantine rules of the moot presume a lot of things we don't actually have information on.

If Rich ever publishes The Divine Rules of Order for the Moot, then we call dive in and see why everyone didn't act with perfect parliamentary procedure to enact their will. Until he does...this is a bit baseless.


1) If the HPoHeimdall kills themselves:

b) by their own will, that is a death without honor, he goes to Hel, to the most avenging vengeance possible. The priest could still do it, but that's a reason he might not want to.

Heimdall's priest probably isn't a dwarf based on his height, so his soul would be fine. Hel only gets dwarves who die without honor. The other races' souls are safe.

[nmphuong91]

Well, Heimdall can argue that it's not suicide, it's martyrdom with a line like "He did not suicide, he offer his life as his god demand". Surely honorable enough for his soul to escape Hel's grasp. And of course, along with "It's not backsie, I just suddenly want to test my priest's faith".
But most likely the story won't go this route.