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LoyalPaladin
2016-01-14, 05:05 PM
Hello everybody!
I'm going to be playing a clawlock in the next day or so, but I am grasping at straws for a race! I need something with a +0 LA, that will give me a good bonus to strength! Currently, I am using the default orc. But! If you can find me a bigger strength gain, or an equal strength gain without a ton of penalties, that'd be great too.

Thank you!

ComaVision
2016-01-14, 05:07 PM
Krynn Minotaur?

LoyalPaladin
2016-01-14, 05:17 PM
Krynn Minotaur?
That's +4 str, -2 Dex, -2 Int, -2 Cha, and Nat Armor +2. Right?

Darrin
2016-01-14, 05:21 PM
Water Orc (Unearthed Arcana) gets a Con bonus on top of the standard orc. Ask if you can add Frostblood Orc (Dragon Magic) on top of that. Or maybe add Dragonborn of Bahamut for Dex -2/Con +2.

ComaVision
2016-01-14, 05:22 PM
That's +4 str, -2 Dex, -2 Int, -2 Cha, and Nat Armor +2. Right?

I believe so (AFB).

There's also the Wild +0 LA template from Dragon Magazine, +2 Str for -2 Int and some skill changes.

Triskavanski
2016-01-14, 05:25 PM
Clawlock? Warlock with natural weapons?

Troacctid
2016-01-14, 05:29 PM
Mulhorandi Divine Minion of Anhur. Wild shape into a lion as a free action. You get 21 Strength and 17 Dex without having to invest any point-buy, plus pounce and five extra attacks. Also comes with fear immunity. Well worth the +1 LA.

LoyalPaladin
2016-01-14, 05:46 PM
Water Orc (Unearthed Arcana) gets a Con bonus on top of the standard orc. Ask if you can add Frostblood Orc (Dragon Magic) on top of that. Or maybe add Dragonborn of Bahamut for Dex -2/Con +2.
Water Orc might be the option I stick with...


I believe so (AFB).

There's also the Wild +0 LA template from Dragon Magazine, +2 Str for -2 Int and some skill changes.
I'll take a look at that!


Clawlock? Warlock with natural weapons?
Warlock with Eldritch Claws as a feat.


Mulhorandi Divine Minion of Anhur. Wild shape into a lion as a free action. You get 21 Strength and 17 Dex without having to invest any point-buy, plus pounce and five extra attacks. Also comes with fear immunity. Well worth the +1 LA.
That's an interesting ability. I'll look into that.

manyslayer
2016-01-15, 08:38 AM
There's also the Wild +0 LA template from Dragon Magazine, +2 Str for -2 Int and some skill changes.
And -2 Cha.

khadgar567
2016-01-15, 09:07 AM
And -2 Cha.

do you think orcs chose ms/ mr realm mate they are more like loktar ogar than fallowed by waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

Vizzerdrix
2016-01-15, 09:40 AM
Would buying a casting of Mineral Warrior be a thing? I'm not sure what the stat hits on it was right off the top of my head.

LoyalPaladin
2016-01-15, 10:50 AM
And -2 Cha.
Oof. On top of Water Orc, that's -4 Cha...


Would buying a casting of Mineral Warrior be a thing? I'm not sure what the stat hits on it was right off the top of my head.
Probably not.

Darrin
2016-01-15, 11:40 AM
Oof. On top of Water Orc, that's -4 Cha...


Magic-Blooded template: +2 Cha, -2 Wis.

LoyalPaladin
2016-01-15, 11:42 AM
Magic-Blooded template: +2 Cha, -2 Wis.
I might be able to get away with that!

Hunter Noventa
2016-01-15, 12:42 PM
Remember that Cha is absolutely meaningless to a Warlock that isn't using Invocations that require saves. Unless you want to do UMD cheese.

Aleolus
2016-01-15, 01:39 PM
I really like Sharakim from Races of Destiny. Its only +2 Str, but you also get a +2 Int and several other abilities that could come in handy, with 0 LA

Cerefel
2016-01-15, 01:45 PM
I really like Sharakim from Races of Destiny. Its only +2 Str, but you also get a +2 Int and several other abilities that could come in handy, with 0 LA

Actually Sharakim are LA +1