How would you build an arcane trickster in core only?

[gooddragon1]

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[Troacctid]

In core-only, you basically have two choices for entry: Rogue 3/Wizard 5, or Rogue 1/Wizard 5/Assassin 1. The former loses an extra caster level; the latter has problems with cross-class skill requirements.

[MisterKaws]

Rogue 3/Wizard 3/Arcane Trickster 10/Archmage 4

You can sneak attack with any spell that allows a ranged attack, so there's no need to put more rogue levels, instead, throw in Archmage for the high arcanas and maybe just keep using Magic Missiles and element-swapped Scorching Rays.

[gooddragon1]

Rogue 3/Wizard 3/Arcane Trickster 10/Archmage 4

You can sneak attack with any spell that allows a ranged attack, so there's no need to put more rogue levels, instead, throw in Archmage for the high arcanas and maybe just keep using Magic Missiles and element-swapped Scorching Rays.

I think you need to be wizard 5 at least though because of the 3rd level slot requirement.


In core-only, you basically have two choices for entry: Rogue 3/Wizard 5, or Rogue 1/Wizard 5/Assassin 1. The former loses an extra caster level; the latter has problems with cross-class skill requirements.

Well, I don't want to play an evil character (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070401a) so I guess it's the first one.

hmm

Rogue 3/Wizard 7/Arcane Trickster 10 or Rogue 5/Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster 10... 9th level spells sound good... but is it really worth losing +1d6 sneak attack?

The reason for this character is because although I like cleric, I want to try out rogue. However, magic makes everything better, so I figure I can still backstab really nicely when I want to and be useful when I can't. 9th level spell slots should make me useful probably. Core only is annoying, but a game is a game.

[MisterKaws]

I think you need to be wizard 5 at least though because of the 3rd level slot requirement.



Well, I don't want to play an evil character (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070401a) so I guess it's the first one.

hmm

Rogue 3/Wizard 7/Arcane Trickster 10 or Rogue 5/Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster 10... 9th level spells sound good... but is it really worth losing +1d6 sneak attack?

The reason for this character is because although I like cleric, I want to try out rogue. However, magic makes everything better, so I figure I can still backstab really nicely when I want to and be useful when I can't. 9th level spell slots should make me useful probably. Core only is annoying, but a game is a game.

Set archmage to 2 and wizard to 5, change nothing else. 9th level spells are worth more than virtually anything.

[gooddragon1]

Set archmage to 2 and wizard to 5, change nothing else. 9th level spells are worth more than virtually anything.

Kinda limited to core only, cheese is a bad idea, and I have a feeling it's "you must have seen it to polymorph into it". Still, shapechange is usually good even with a limited selection.

[LTwerewolf]

In no way is 1d6 sneak attack worth not getting 9th level spells. It wouldn't even be worth not getting 4th level spells. I'd argue it's not worth not getting 2nd.

[Rezialn]

Could you add a companion to core?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/accomplished-sneak-attacker

Rogue 1, Wizard 9, Trickster 10.

[LordOfCain]

Could you add a companion to core?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/accomplished-sneak-attacker

Rogue 1, Wizard 9, Trickster 10.

This is DnD 3.5 as you can tell from the skills. Hide, Move Silently, Search, Disable Device and maybe others

[nedz]

It depends upon what you mean by Core. If UA is available, a la SRD, then you could go.
Rogue 1 / Fighter 1 (sneak) / Wizard 5 / Arcane Trickster 10


Rogue 3/Wizard 3/Arcane Trickster 10/Archmage 4

You can sneak attack with any spell that allows a ranged attack, so there's no need to put more rogue levels, instead, throw in Archmage for the high arcanas and maybe just keep using Magic Missiles and element-swapped Scorching Rays.

Magic Missile is no good - no to hit roll = no sneak attack

[MisterKaws]

It depends upon what you mean by Core. If UA is available, a la SRD, then you could go.
Rogue 1 / Fighter 1 (sneak) / Wizard 5 / Arcane Trickster 10



Magic Missile is no good - no to hit roll = no sneak attack

Crap, forgot that. There's a variant that requires attack rolls, don't remember where though.

[gooddragon1]

It depends upon what you mean by Core. If UA is available, a la SRD, then you could go.
Rogue 1 / Fighter 1 (sneak) / Wizard 5 / Arcane Trickster 10



Magic Missile is no good - no to hit roll = no sneak attack

Just the 3 base books. SRD is nope if it isn't from those. So no UA either.

[Psyren]

3.5 version: Rogue 3/Wiz 5/AT 10/Loremaster 2

PF version: Rogue 3/Wiz 3/AT 10/Loremaster 4

Both get 9th level spells and plenty of skills