Metamagic cost reduction feat - help me find it, please

[Segev]

I recall discussion about a feat which would allow a wizard to pick a school and have metamagic feats cost one less spell slot level for that school. Does this really exist, and if so, what's it called and where can I find it?

Thanks!

[eggynack]

I think you want metamagic school focus, from complete mage page 45.

[Segev]

That looks like it! Thanks!

If I'm reading it correctly, it breaks down thusly:

Up to 3x/day, you can lower the cost of any metamagic feat you apply to a spell.
You can do this to no more than 3 spells/day.

Thus, you could do it to 3 metamagic feats applied to 3 spells (lowering the metamagic cost by 1 each), or you could prepare 1 spell with 3 metamagic feats reduced each by 1...OR you could prepare 1 spell with 1 metamagic feat reduced by 3. Is that correct? Am I over-reading the liberties I can take with this?

[Elxir_Breauer]

METAMAGIC SCHOOL FOCUS
You are unusually skilled at modifying the effects of a particular school of magic.

Prerequisite: Spell Focus (chosen school) or specialist wizard in chosen school.

Benefit: Choose a school of magic for which you have the Spell Focus feat, or the school in which you have specialized. Three times per day, you can reduce by one level the cost of a metamagic feat applied to a spell of the chosen school. If you prepare spells, you can have only up to three such reduced cost spells prepared at any time.

Special: A wizard can select this feat as a wizard bonus feat. This feat can be taken more than once. Each time you take it, it applies to a different school of magic.
As written, it looks like you are indeed correct Segev. Possibly not quite what was intended, but still pretty cool even if not.

[Zanos]

I never considered using them all on one spell for -3, but I suppose it works. Doesn't seem too imbalanced to me though, since sudden maximize exists.

Personally I like using MMSF at low levels to prepare sculpted greases and glitterdusts in their normal slot, so you can just place 4 10 ft squares around the map, which will let you BFC basically everyone even if the DM spreads them out.

[Andezzar]

I never considered using them all on one spell for -3, but I suppose it works. Doesn't seem too imbalanced to me though, since sudden maximize exists.That only works if the spell has 3 metamagics applied. Each metamagic can only be reduced by one.

[Elxir_Breauer]

Still pretty good, considering there are a bunch of decent +1 level Metamagic feats out there, though you'd probably only ever apply up to 2 different ones at a time, depending on feats, spell and circumstances involved.

[Segev]

That only works if the spell has 3 metamagics applied. Each metamagic can only be reduced by one.

While that certainly is a reasonable thing to expect to be the case, does the text explicitly support that assertion? I don't see it, but am open to having the reasoning explained.

[ATHATH]

Whoops, wrong thread.

[Bohandas]

There's also a related feat in Player's Handbook 2 called "Arcane Thesis" which only lowers the metamagic cost for a single spell, but can be used on that spell an unlimited number of times per day. (it also lets you cast that spell as if you were a higher level, but that's beyond this thread's scope.)

[ryu]

There's also a related feat in Player's Handbook 2 called "Arcane Thesis" which only lowers the metamagic cost for a single spell, but can be used on that spell an unlimited number of times per day. (it also lets you cast that spell as if you were a higher level, but that's beyond this thread's scope.)

It can only be used once per metamagic on the spell, but zero cost metamagics cost negative.