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Cocolito
2016-02-07, 06:22 PM
Hey guys, I've been looking for a good home-brew of the Cavalier class for 5e and haven't found one that didn't seem to be at least a little unbalanced. I decided to throw in a few ideas here and hope some of you can help me flesh out the archetype out into something usable.
I find that 5e seems to lean towards making old classes through archetypes, since most of the old classes played similar to the core classes. A Cavalier is, I believe, would work best off of the Fighter class, but grant him more a leadership kind of role, granting allies extra bonus's.

The 3 main aspects to a Cavalier (at least in pathfinder) are the Challenge ability, Tactician ability, and mounted combat skills (along with a faithful mount).

When choosing this archetype at level 3, a Cavalier must choose an Order. While in previous additions, their have been a LARGE amount of orders, I decided to make rules for only 3 types of orders. For fluff reasons, you can created or use any old order and place them into one of these three types: Order of the Blade, Order of the Defender, and Order of Wisdom. The order they choose will decide the way their Challenge ability will function.

War Mounts are also a staple of Cavaliers, but in respect to the ranger's pet subclass, I decided it should work differently to not over shadow/copy that class. Instead, due to a Cavalier's ability to ride and control a mount in combat, they add minor bonuses to an mount they ride into combat. This will help keep the mount alive a little while longer (especially since they're such vulnerable targets to begin with).

The Tactician ability will also work based on the Order chosen, making the Cavalier function better in a team, giving allies actions during the Cavalier's turn.

A Cavalier's would also carry a banner into combat, granting bonus's to allies withing range. I don't know if I should make these bonus's specific to the Order, or just make it a flat bonus. For now, it's a flat bonus.

Finally, a special charge skill that grants the Cavalier a bonus when moving and attacking (but not the same as the Charge feat).

Orders:
-Choose an Order to Join (gained at 3rd level):
-Order of the Blade: Gain proficiency in one STR or DEX skill
-Order of the Wisdom: Gain Proficiency in one INT or WIS skill
-Order of the Shield: Gain proficiency in one CHA skill

-War Trained Mount (gained at 3rd level)
-Can train/gain a mount. Mounts have their same statistics as normal, except you add your proficiency bonus to their AC and add double the Fighterís level to the mountís HP as temporary HP.

-Challenge (Gained at 3rd level): As a bonus action, Challenge a creature within 30 ft of you once per short rest to gain the feature stated by your order below:
-Order of the Blade: Until you or the creature challenged falls to 0 hp, add your CHA modifier to all damage rolls (minimum 1)
-Order of the Wisdom: Until you or the creature challenged falls to 0 hp, recieve a bonus to all saving throws against the creature by an amount equal to you CHA modifier (1 minimum)
-Order of the Shield: Until you or the creature challenged falls to 0 hp, add your CHA modifier to your AC (minimum 1) against attacks from that creature

-Tactician (Gained at 7th level)
-Order of the Blade: Use an action to grant an ally within melee attack range of your a creature within 5 ft of you an attack action with their reaction against that creature.. Add your CHA modifier to their attacks (minimum 1).
-Order of the Defender: Use an action and grant all adjacent allies of you an AC bonus equal to your CHA modifier for that turn (minimum 1).
-Order of the Shield: Once per short rest, use an action to grant all allies within 30 ft of you temporary HP equal to your level plus CHA modifier (duration is 1 minute).

-Banner (Gained at 10th level)
-All allies within 30 ft of you and can see your banner gain advantage on mind affection saving throws.

-Cavalier's Charge (Gained at 15th level)
-When you move at least 10 ft in a straight line before using an attack action on a creature, add your CHA modifier to you attack and damage (Minimum 1)

-Supreme Charge (Gained at 18th level)
-When using Cavalierís Charge, any ally adjacent to you can use their reaction to move at least 10 ft and use an attack action.

Flashy
2016-02-07, 06:25 PM
Hey guys, I've been looking for a good home-brew of the Cavalier class for 5e and haven't found one that didn't seem to be at least a little unbalanced.

Have you seen the one from last month's Unearthed Arcana (http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/04_UA_Classics_Revisited.pdf)?

Cocolito
2016-02-07, 06:35 PM
Nope, haven't seen this. I'll take a look, thanks

Cocolito
2016-02-09, 11:20 PM
After going over that PDF and checking out the Wizard's site, turns out they'll be tuning up the Cavalier and Scout sub classes. I was also a little disappointed with the lack of support and challenge abilities. Guess I'll adapt what they got with what I got until they finalize anything. Till then, any suggestions on ways to modify their test at Cavalier?

Drakvor
2016-03-31, 09:42 AM
You should check out the Michael7123's Knight. One of the class archetype is the Cavalier and it seems good.

Also, D&D 5e Homebrew Compendium, by Twelvetrees, may have balanced classes based on the Cavalier (I think it had a Fighter Archetype based on that).

As for your idea, it looks good. But I would add a few more class features. Also, give your class a capstone feature at lv20 (something powerful) since most classes have one. Finally, consider giving this class the Extra Attack feature.

Wartex1
2016-03-31, 07:24 PM
You should check out the Michael7123's Knight. One of the class archetype is the Cavalier and it seems good.

Also, D&D 5e Homebrew Compendium, by Twelvetrees, may have balanced classes based on the Cavalier (I think it had a Fighter Archetype based on that).

As for your idea, it looks good. But I would add a few more class features. Also, give your class a capstone feature at lv20 (something powerful) since most classes have one. Finally, consider giving this class the Extra Attack feature.

I can confirm that there's at least one Cavalier archetype in the Compendium (because I made it).

I've seen a bunch of others here as well, so there's plenty to choose from.

JBPuffin
2016-03-31, 08:46 PM
You should check out the Michael7123's Knight. One of the class archetype is the Cavalier and it seems good.

Also, D&D 5e Homebrew Compendium, by Twelvetrees, may have balanced classes based on the Cavalier (I think it had a Fighter Archetype based on that).

As for your idea, it looks good. But I would add a few more class features. Also, give your class a capstone feature at lv20 (something powerful) since most classes have one. Finally, consider giving this class the Extra Attack feature.

Hey buddy...it's a fighter archetype. Just saying.

Drakvor
2016-03-31, 08:56 PM
Hey buddy...it's a fighter archetype. Just saying.

Oops, sorry. I missed that. Reading it again, I think it's a good idea. (It was the choosing the Order that made me think it was a class with subclasses...)