Willy Wonka

[DabbinPanda]

Willy Wonka was a Candy Artisan. I want to incorporate this very essence into my build. I want to play a Very Charismatic Character that makes delectable s that may or may not be Poisoned depending on his mood so the slight of hand for that.

REQUIREMENTS
-Cannot be HUMAN as these are a slave race in this world
-LA 3 Possibly 4 with a Good argument this LA =0 for this table
-Templates that dont take LA above^^
-MAX RANKS CRAFT CANDY or similar....
-FLAVOR FLAVOR FLAVOR
-DM lets alot of cheese slide be creative please.

THANKS IN ADVANCE

[Muggins]

Consider using either potions (reflavoured into candies and/or sweet drinks) or the Shalantha's Delicate Disk spell (from Lost Empires of Faerun) to create your delectables.

[ben-zayb]

Are you familiar with the Shadowcraft Cookie (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=9518.0)? You could make candy versions of that. Beguiler or Sorcerer base for Shadowcraft mage are feasible. The former can either simply subtitute spells and skill ranks for CHA skills, or actually pump charisma (or both).

[Randomthom]

If this is for Pathfinder, Alchemist with potions/bombs refluffed as cookies etc. (Popping Candy bombs?) would make a lot of sense.

[Âmesang]

Chocolate cordial cherry bombs?

He may also need some crafting feats to make that elevator of his.

[DabbinPanda]

Are you familiar with the Shadowcraft Cookie (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=9518.0)? You could make candy versions of that. Beguiler or Sorcerer base for Shadowcraft mage are feasible. The former can either simply subtitute spells and skill ranks for CHA skills, or actually pump charisma (or both).
I was not but that is great! Only I want to make candies and what not just illusion ones.

[DabbinPanda]

If this is for Pathfinder, Alchemist with potions/bombs refluffed as cookies etc. (Popping Candy bombs?) would make a lot of sense.

We are playing 3.5 currently.

[ben-zayb]

I was not but that is great! Only I want to make candies and what not just illusion ones.

Normal Delicate Disk, as suggested above, can also do that with Spell Thematics, but it gets expensive fast.

[DabbinPanda]

Normal Delicate Disk, as suggested above, can also do that with Spell Thematics, but it gets expensive fast.
Can you explain a little more? I am allowed alot of cheese the time isnt an issue and neither are funds.

[Zaq]

Can you use Eberron-specific material (reflavored to fit your world)? If so, look into Black Dog, a PrC from Dragonmarked. It's basically the gold standard for "creating delicious food that maaaaay or may not be poisoned." Doesn't advance casting, but it's still really cool if you're in a campaign that's friendly to it.

[emulord]

I actually already statted him (as a human). This may or may not be useful for you:

Feats+Classes:

William Wonk is a Human Wiz17 with Skill Focus Craft(Candy) (Human), Able Learner (1st), Eidectic Spellcaster (1st), Craft Wondrous Item (5th wiz), Craft Staff (10th wiz), Forge Ring (15th Wiz), Shape spell (3rd) (to not hit Oompa Loompas), Defensive casting (6th) to not trigger AoO, Leadership (9th), Improved Initative (12th), Eschew materials (15th). His machines produce candy that produces magical effects. He usually wont tell you all the effects to make it sound grander.

Equipment:

He has a Staff of power
His coat acts as a Nimble Mithril Feycraft Twilight Banded Mail of Luck +3. It loses Nimble if Wonka dies, Feycraft if his Oompa loompas die, Twilight if his factory is destroyed. Loses luck outside of Wonderland.
Ring of Mind Shielding (Actually NE)
Ring of Freedom of Movement
Feather Token (Swan Boat)
Gloves of Arrow Snatching (2xday)
Hat of Intelligence +6 (made by the mad hatter)
Boots of Springing and Striding



Stats:
-1 Str: 8
+9 Int: 18+6+4
0 Wis: 11
+3 Dex: 17
+1 Con: 12
+2 Chr: 14

Skill points: 6*6+7*4+8*4+9*4+10*2 = 172 Max ranks 21

20+3 Craft(Candy)
20+1 Concentration
15 Spot
15 Listen
10+2 Diplomacy
14+2 Bluff
9 Survival
15+2 Intimidate
10+2 Perform (Oratory)
15+3 Tumble
17-1 Swim
6+9 Spellcraft
1+9 Knowledge(Nature)
1+9 Knowledge(Geography)
1+9 Knowledge(Local)
1+9 Knowledge (Arcana)
1+9 Knowledge (Dungeoneering)
5+9 Forgery (Detect fraudulent Golden Ticket)


Init: +5+2 = +7
Fort: +5+1+1 = 7
Reflex: +5+2+1 = 8
Will: 10+1 = 11, but mindblanked, so +infinite basically.
HP: 4+16d4+17 = 70
AC: 10+9+1=20
Attack: +9/+4 quarterstaff 1d6+2
Movement: 40'

Spell DC: 19+ spell level.
Spells:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
4 7 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 2
Active spell effects:

Has Arcane Sight, Darkvision, Resistance, See Invisibility Permanencied
Cloned body in factory
Endure Elements, Nondetection, Mage's Private Sanctum, Mind Blank, Moment of Prescience, Contingent recall, Guards and Wards (Arcane Locks, Confusing Hallways)

Prepared Spells:

all 0s,
1s: Endure Elements (already cast), Grease, Alarm, Obscuring Mist, Hold Portal, Charm Person, Unseen Servant
2s: Arcane Lock, Detect Thoughts, Hideous Laughter, Continual Flame, Darkness (Cast on boat once you start going on river), Hypnotic Pattern (Cast on river)
3s: Nondetection (already cast), Suggestion, Deep Slumber, Hold Person, Major Image (Cast on river second), Lightning Bolt
4s: Shout, Hallucinatory Terrain, Phantasmal Killer (Cast on river), Confusion, Minor Creation, Illusory Wall
5s: Major Creation, Baleful Polymorph, Mage's Private Sanctum (precast), Dismissal, Dominate Person, Fabricate
6s: Guards and wards (precast twice. Arcane locks and Confusing hallways), Contingency (precast, Word of Recall on taking more than 10 damage), Eyebite, Chain Lightning
7s: Power Word Blind, Insanity, Mass Hold Person, Feeblemind (+1 DC)
8s: Mind Blank (precast), Moment of Prescience (precast)
9s: Wish, Time Stop


He comes with a tribe of 80 grigs with 1 level of bard each.

He was sadly oneshot by a crit from a mace of withering by a level 10 rogue.

[FocusWolf413]

His cane definitely has a sword in it. There's no way it's not a canesword. No way.

[Zhentarim]

I am totally bookmarking this thread! It is so creative and original!

[Troacctid]

Taking both Brew Potion and Craft Wondrous Item allows you to brew variant potions that have similar properties, but a different shape. Basically, instead of a potion, you "brew" a piece of candy that functions as a potion when you eat it. This seems like a pretty solid way of making magic candy.

Another good feat would be Spell Thematics (Candy) to make all of your spells appear as candy. Fireball? Exploding spicy cinnamon balls. Resilient Sphere? Deluxe super-strength bubblegum. Levitate? Fizzy lifting drinks. Etc.

[DabbinPanda]

His cane definitely has a sword in it. There's no way it's not a canesword. No way.
I absolutely agree with this idea he does need to be able to use a sword cane.

[DabbinPanda]

I actually already statted him (as a human). This may or may not be useful for you:

Feats+Classes:

William Wonk is a Human Wiz17 with Skill Focus Craft(Candy) (Human), Able Learner (1st), Eidectic Spellcaster (1st), Craft Wondrous Item (5th wiz), Craft Staff (10th wiz), Forge Ring (15th Wiz), Shape spell (3rd) (to not hit Oompa Loompas), Defensive casting (6th) to not trigger AoO, Leadership (9th), Improved Initative (12th), Eschew materials (15th). His machines produce candy that produces magical effects. He usually wont tell you all the effects to make it sound grander.

Equipment:

He has a Staff of power
His coat acts as a Nimble Mithril Feycraft Twilight Banded Mail of Luck +3. It loses Nimble if Wonka dies, Feycraft if his Oompa loompas die, Twilight if his factory is destroyed. Loses luck outside of Wonderland.
Ring of Mind Shielding (Actually NE)
Ring of Freedom of Movement
Feather Token (Swan Boat)
Gloves of Arrow Snatching (2xday)
Hat of Intelligence +6 (made by the mad hatter)
Boots of Springing and Striding



Stats:
-1 Str: 8
+9 Int: 18+6+4
0 Wis: 11
+3 Dex: 17
+1 Con: 12
+2 Chr: 14

Skill points: 6*6+7*4+8*4+9*4+10*2 = 172 Max ranks 21

20+3 Craft(Candy)
20+1 Concentration
15 Spot
15 Listen
10+2 Diplomacy
14+2 Bluff
9 Survival
15+2 Intimidate
10+2 Perform (Oratory)
15+3 Tumble
17-1 Swim
6+9 Spellcraft
1+9 Knowledge(Nature)
1+9 Knowledge(Geography)
1+9 Knowledge(Local)
1+9 Knowledge (Arcana)
1+9 Knowledge (Dungeoneering)
5+9 Forgery (Detect fraudulent Golden Ticket)


Init: +5+2 = +7
Fort: +5+1+1 = 7
Reflex: +5+2+1 = 8
Will: 10+1 = 11, but mindblanked, so +infinite basically.
HP: 4+16d4+17 = 70
AC: 10+9+1=20
Attack: +9/+4 quarterstaff 1d6+2
Movement: 40'

Spell DC: 19+ spell level.
Spells:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
4 7 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 2
Active spell effects:

Has Arcane Sight, Darkvision, Resistance, See Invisibility Permanencied
Cloned body in factory
Endure Elements, Nondetection, Mage's Private Sanctum, Mind Blank, Moment of Prescience, Contingent recall, Guards and Wards (Arcane Locks, Confusing Hallways)

Prepared Spells:

all 0s,
1s: Endure Elements (already cast), Grease, Alarm, Obscuring Mist, Hold Portal, Charm Person, Unseen Servant
2s: Arcane Lock, Detect Thoughts, Hideous Laughter, Continual Flame, Darkness (Cast on boat once you start going on river), Hypnotic Pattern (Cast on river)
3s: Nondetection (already cast), Suggestion, Deep Slumber, Hold Person, Major Image (Cast on river second), Lightning Bolt
4s: Shout, Hallucinatory Terrain, Phantasmal Killer (Cast on river), Confusion, Minor Creation, Illusory Wall
5s: Major Creation, Baleful Polymorph, Mage's Private Sanctum (precast), Dismissal, Dominate Person, Fabricate
6s: Guards and wards (precast twice. Arcane locks and Confusing hallways), Contingency (precast, Word of Recall on taking more than 10 damage), Eyebite, Chain Lightning
7s: Power Word Blind, Insanity, Mass Hold Person, Feeblemind (+1 DC)
8s: Mind Blank (precast), Moment of Prescience (precast)
9s: Wish, Time Stop


He comes with a tribe of 80 grigs with 1 level of bard each.

He was sadly oneshot by a crit from a mace of withering by a level 10 rogue.
Wow thats quite the build. Honestly tho thinking he is more a bard charismatic based*
Also cant be human so close AGAIN THANK YOU for the time you spent building all that :)

[DabbinPanda]

Taking both Brew Potion and Craft Wondrous Item allows you to brew variant potions that have similar properties, but a different shape. Basically, instead of a potion, you "brew" a piece of candy that functions as a potion when you eat it. This seems like a pretty solid way of making magic candy.

Another good feat would be Spell Thematics (Candy) to make all of your spells appear as candy. Fireball? Exploding spicy cinnamon balls. Resilient Sphere? Deluxe super-strength bubblegum. Levitate? Fizzy lifting drinks. Etc.

Both of those are really good ideas. I think that top one is the closest to a alternative idea to make candy that would be easy to infuse tho again makes it an intelligence based class.

[DabbinPanda]

Can you use Eberron-specific material (reflavored to fit your world)? If so, look into Black Dog, a PrC from Dragonmarked. It's basically the gold standard for "creating delicious food that maaaaay or may not be poisoned." Doesn't advance casting, but it's still really cool if you're in a campaign that's friendly to it.
YES I CAN!!!! will read into this more thank you so much!!!....
OMG this is freakin perfect THANK YOU!!!!

[Troacctid]

Both of those are really good ideas. I think that top one is the closest to a alternative idea to make candy that would be easy to infuse tho again makes it an intelligence based class.

Anyone can take Brew Potion. It doesn't rely on any particular ability score.

[DabbinPanda]

DM is ruling that it is a art form to make and takes a lifetime to perfect so its profession.

[DabbinPanda]

Bard 4/Swordsage1/Blackdog5/bard9?
Take max ranks in profession CandyMaker and craft candy?
Any other ideas

[Darrin]

Anyone can take Brew Potion. It doesn't rely on any particular ability score.

If you can get your hands on Gremma's Cauldron (5000 GP, Expedition to Undermountain), then even non-casters can brew potions. Actually, if you use the "convert a scroll into a potion" option, then that makes even more sense, as Mr. Wonka could have a collection of "secret recipes" (scrolls) that he can convert into candy, the candy being refluffed potions. Could work up to 9th level spells if you like.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Elemental Plane of Candy (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?257417-Elemental-Plane-of-Candy).

[Tiri]

Another good feat would be Spell Thematics (Candy) to make all of your spells appear as candy. Fireball? Exploding spicy cinnamon balls. Resilient Sphere? Deluxe super-strength bubblegum. Levitate? Fizzy lifting drinks. Etc.

You don't need Spell Thematics for that. Any caster can already personalise the visual manifestations of their spells. Not to mention that the feat itself would still be pretty worthless even if things weren't like that.