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Doctor Despair
2016-03-07, 04:03 PM
I was wondering what all feats there are out there for this sort of thing? Which seem worth the cost, and which do not? Not that these work together, but the few that come to mind are Steadfast Determination, Keen Intellect, and Faerie Mysteries Initiate. Steadfast seems a bit expensive for a two-feat dip, but the not auto-failing on a nat 1 seems to balance it out at least a little for low-op campaigns.

Telonius
2016-03-07, 04:08 PM
It depends on the sort of character you're running. If it's just about pumping up saving throws, there are usually more efficient ways to help yourself than spending feats. But if you're doing something like taking Weapon Finesse on a TWF Rogue, that's not just worth it, it's almost assumed.

Doctor Despair
2016-03-07, 04:15 PM
No particular character in mind here. I just enjoy learning more about the game. :) Right now I'm on this kick where I'm planning characters from levels 1-6. I figured out how to cheat in assassin levels early to get an early-game death-attack at a really high DC, so I decided to make the next character at the other end of the spectrum as a sort of tankier character that perhaps can almost shrug off most damage. I glanced at Steadfast Determination and it set me wondering about other feats like those, allowing you to change out the stats for X save, or Y bonus, not necessarily for this character, but moreso as something new to learn about the game.

On that note, I recalled Dexterous Will, though epic feats are a bit inaccessible to most characters, haha.

Jowgen
2016-03-07, 04:15 PM
Steadfast Determination's no-fail-on-1 can be vital for certain things (e.g. Voidstone weapons (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?480268-Developing-a-Voidstone-Warhead), but that is about it.

Another feat that techically fits this bill is Beauty's Bounty (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fey/20030815a), which substitutes Cha for Con for HP at level 1 only. It's terrible, really. If it worked for all levels, it would be straight up amazing considering the ammount of Cha-synergy there is.

Speaking of, the most important resource in all this: X stat to Y bonus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?125732-3-x-X-stat-to-Y-bonus)

Doctor Despair
2016-03-07, 04:22 PM
Speaking of, the most important resource in all this: X stat to Y bonus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?125732-3-x-X-stat-to-Y-bonus)

That is certainly the sort of info I was looking for! Thank you, kind stranger. :)

Thurbane
2016-03-08, 05:52 AM
It's 3rd party, but Lost Tradition from Bastards and Bloodlines is a 1st level only feat that allows you to set any set as the primary casting stat for one class. Any stat. Including Con or Str.

I allow a toned down version in my games: it can only be taken by a "dual stat" caster (i.e Favored Soul, Healer), and it must be either Int, Wis or Cha.