ArchangelAzrael
2016-03-12, 05:03 PM
Hello Mates
I really like the Idea of Scaling items (so much that a character of mine has the Armageddon plate even though it’s mediocre) but the ones provided to us are, in my opinion, not worth their money.
So here is my attempt to make a melee weapon geared for a castigator paladin something like (but hopefully better than) The Holy Avenger.
Let’s dive into it then shall we?
scaling magic items rules (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/scaling-magic-items)
Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values
(http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#Table-Estimating-Magic-Item-Gold-Piece-Values)
It has come to my attention that I had miscalculated the price of the continuous spell (the example given didn't help either) as such wrath has been cut . Also many thanks to Fokeno for suggesting the scaling of the abilities with the Charges per day method. Do note that I have in place the price discount for being a paladin only weapon and needing skill ranks religion max (40% discount)
From reading the above here is: "The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel"
Level
Wonder (30%)
Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level
The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel
1st
90 gp
195 gp
-
2nd
300 gp
600 gp
masterwork
3rd
900 gp
1,350 gp
+1
4th
1,800 gp
1,350 gp
Bless weapon continuous
5th
3,150 gp
3,975 gp
-
6th
4,800 gp
5,925 gp
-
7th
7,050 gp
8,475 gp
+2
8th
9,900 gp
11,850 gp
-
9th
13,800 gp
16,200 gp
+3
10th
18,600 gp
21,600 gp
-
11th
24,600 gp
28,500 gp
wrath continuous 12th caster level
12th
32,400 gp
37,200 gp
+4
13th
42,000 gp
48,750 gp
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
14th
55,500 gp
63,750 gp
+5
15th
72,000 gp
83,250 gp
+6
16th
94,500 gp
111,750 gp
+8
17th
129,000 gp
144,000 gp
+9
18th
159,000 gp
182,250 gp
+10
19th
205,500 gp
234,750 gp
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl, 4th lvl Pal spell
20th
264,000 gp
264,000 gp
increase the Angelic Aspect, Greater numeric bonus to +5 and the aura to 30ft
1) Assigning an Unlock Level: Now that you have a cost for the next scaling ability, assign a level at which that ability unlocks. This follows the same process as the Pricing the Base Item step, but using the new cost. You should usually round down, but if you're almost at the higher-level price, bump up the level. For example, a prize that priced out at 8,000 gp at a given set of powers would unlock those powers at 9th level (6,900 gp), but if the price hits 9,000 gp, the abilities should instead unlock at 10th level (9,300 gp). (This helped me make the Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level column)
2)Item Requires Skill to Use: Some items require a specific skill to get them to function. This factor should reduce the cost about 10%.
Item Requires Specific Class or Alignment to Use: Even more restrictive than requiring a skill, this limitation cuts the price by 30%.
The above were used to calculate the price of the weapon (FYI the class is paladin and the skill is knowledge religion although it could be something more useful).
Effect
price
price with skill and class requirement
Bless weapon continuous
2.000,00
1.200,00
wrath continuous 12th caster level
24.000,00
14.400,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
18.000,00
10.800,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell
104.000,00
62.400,00
Latest version "The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel" The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel
With a blade almost reaching five feet in length and a hilt close to 13 inches the Champion’s Gift is massive yet elegant sword, striking awe in the hearts of foes. Angelic patterns decorate the hilt guard and the blade. The almost translucent white blade shines with golden celestial syllabary when it is used to smite evil, reading “I am the Champion’s Gift, Blade of the Archangel, ender of evil, the last argument.”
This exquisite Nodachi appears to be just a masterwork weapon in the hands of anyone other than a paladin. Should a character with half or more his total level in the paladin class and maxed per level knowledge religion skill ranks wield it then the weapon gains the abilities as shown on the table below based on his total character level.
While this sword is not unique it is extremely rare for more than one to exist at the same time as it requires a special kind of soul to summon it to existence most times with him being none the wiser. Destiny or even gods will guide events for the soon to be champion to acquire the weapon and from then on a symbiotic relationship will be forge between wielder and blade. The soul will reflect the blade and the blade will reflect the soul. With each reflex ion each of the counterparts refines itself becoming purer and stronger.
Level
Wonder (30%)
Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level
Property unlocked
Gold cost
Left over gold
1st
90 gp
195,00
masterwork
216
-21,00
2nd
300 gp
600,00
Counts as a reliquary arm**
150
234,00
3rd
900 gp
1.350,00
Bless weapon use activated 1/per day use activated
480
504,00
4th
1,800 gp
2.475,00
+1 bonus
1200
429,00
5th
3,150 gp
3.975,00
Divine favor use activated 3th clvl 1 per day, Bless weapon 2/day
1920
9,00
6th
4,800 gp
5.925,00
Impervious
1.800,00
159,00
7th
7,050 gp
8.475,00
Divine favor use activated 3th clvl 2/day, Bless weapon use activated 3/day
1.920,00
789,00
8th
9,900 gp
11.850,00
+2 bonus*
3.600,00
564,00
9th
13,800 gp
16.200,00
Bless weapon continuous, Divine favor use activated 6th clvl 2/day
3.840,00
1.074,00
10th
18,600 gp
21.600,00
+3 bonus*
6.000,00
474,00
11th
24,600 gp
28.500,00
Divine favor use activated 9th clvl 3/day
7.200,00
174,00
12th
32,400 gp
37.200,00
+4 bonus*
8.400,00
474,00
13th
42,000 gp
48.750,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl, Adamantite
11.640,00
384,00
14th
55,500 gp
63.750,00
+5 bonus*, Resizing
13.200,00
2.184,00
15th
72,000 gp
83.250,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 1/day
21.120,00
564,00
16th
94,500 gp
111.750,00
+6 bonus*
13.200,00
15.864,00
17th
129,000 gp
144.000,00
+7 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 2/day
36.720,00
11.394,00
18th
159,000 gp
182.250,00
+8 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 3/day
34.320,00
15.324,00
19th
205,500 gp
234.750,00
+9 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl, 4th lvl Pal spell continuous
62.640,00
5.184,00
20th
264,000 gp
264.000,00
+10 bonus, Increase the Angelic Aspect, Greater numeric bonus to +5 and the aura to 30ft
22.800,00
11.634,00
* The player may upon leveling up and unlocking the increase of the enchantment bonus may rearrange the enchantment bonus however he wants as long as the some of the bonuses don’t exceed the ones provided by the table(as per your level) and follow the normal rules for magic weapons. Additionally the player may opt to diminish the total enchantment bonus by 1 to add the sizing property to the weapon until he unlocks it normally upon level 14.
** As per Reliquary arms and shields
***The activation is per use so the player should choose a simple action such as drawing the weapon or saying a quick prayer
Level
comments
1st
Level 1 over the budget by 21g but we can let that slide right?
2nd
Gains the symbol of the deity of the Paladin or an Ideal if the paladin doesn’t follow one, counts as a holy symbol and some consecration benefits nice! Follows the rules of create-reliquary-arms-and-shields
3rd
1 per day bless as a free action when drawing the blade
4th
plain and simple
5th
just barely within budget we gain 1/day divine favor as a free action and bless 2/day as a free action when drawing the sword
6th
I don’t want the holy weapon to get rusty or sundered so …
7th
more uses of our free buffs
8th
plain and simple, the user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
9th
now our blade is always blessed! Oh look at this level we get a feat as well hope it’s improved critical. Divine favor gets better but still only twice per day
10th
at this point I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +2 enchantment the player might want. I would personally go for the +3 plain and simple. The user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
11th
3 times per day as a free action full effect Divine Favor!
12th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +3 enchantment the player might want or any other combination the user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
13th
Divine favor continuous and a weapon that can sunder/is harder to sunder
14th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +4 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default on this level so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
15th
Awesome spell as a free action 1 per day. The paladin most likely will be able to cast it from his own spell slots but not as a free action
16th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
17th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
18th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. 3 times per day should be enough for your adventuring day but…
19th
…why not have it up constantly! Yes ! I actually made this weapon just for the sake of this ability. Also I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination
20th
Final rearrange of the enchantment bonuses and we even managed to reach maxxed with some gold to spare. That’s why I increased the benefits of the Angelic Aspect, Greater a little to make for a nice Capstone.
total enchantment lvl
cost
Incremental cost
Incremental cost with discount
1
2.000,00
2.000,00
1.200,00
2
8.000,00
6.000,00
3.600,00
3
18.000,00
10.000,00
6.000,00
4
32.000,00
14.000,00
8.400,00
5
50.000,00
18.000,00
10.800,00
6
72.000,00
22.000,00
13.200,00
7
98.000,00
26.000,00
15.600,00
8
128.000,00
30.000,00
18.000,00
9
162.000,00
34.000,00
20.400,00
10
200.000,00
38.000,00
22.800,00
Effect
price
price with skill and class requirement
3 times per day
1 time per day
Bless weapon continuous
4.000,00
2.400,00
1.440,00
480,00
wrath continuous 12th caster level
48.000,00
28.800,00
17.280,00
5.760,00
Divine favor continuous 3th clvl
12.000,00
7.200,00
4.320,00
1.440,00
Divine favor continuous 6th clvl
24.000,00
14.400,00
8.640,00
2.880,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
36.000,00
21.600,00
12.960,00
4.320,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell
176.000,00
105.600,00
63.360,00
21.120,00
OK so this weapon should be pretty awesome in actual play. Have I missed something obvious? Are my calculations incorrect? Would you allow it as a DM? Would you pick it up as a Player?
I really like the Idea of Scaling items (so much that a character of mine has the Armageddon plate even though it’s mediocre) but the ones provided to us are, in my opinion, not worth their money.
So here is my attempt to make a melee weapon geared for a castigator paladin something like (but hopefully better than) The Holy Avenger.
Let’s dive into it then shall we?
scaling magic items rules (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/scaling-magic-items)
Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values
(http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#Table-Estimating-Magic-Item-Gold-Piece-Values)
It has come to my attention that I had miscalculated the price of the continuous spell (the example given didn't help either) as such wrath has been cut . Also many thanks to Fokeno for suggesting the scaling of the abilities with the Charges per day method. Do note that I have in place the price discount for being a paladin only weapon and needing skill ranks religion max (40% discount)
From reading the above here is: "The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel"
Level
Wonder (30%)
Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level
The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel
1st
90 gp
195 gp
-
2nd
300 gp
600 gp
masterwork
3rd
900 gp
1,350 gp
+1
4th
1,800 gp
1,350 gp
Bless weapon continuous
5th
3,150 gp
3,975 gp
-
6th
4,800 gp
5,925 gp
-
7th
7,050 gp
8,475 gp
+2
8th
9,900 gp
11,850 gp
-
9th
13,800 gp
16,200 gp
+3
10th
18,600 gp
21,600 gp
-
11th
24,600 gp
28,500 gp
wrath continuous 12th caster level
12th
32,400 gp
37,200 gp
+4
13th
42,000 gp
48,750 gp
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
14th
55,500 gp
63,750 gp
+5
15th
72,000 gp
83,250 gp
+6
16th
94,500 gp
111,750 gp
+8
17th
129,000 gp
144,000 gp
+9
18th
159,000 gp
182,250 gp
+10
19th
205,500 gp
234,750 gp
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl, 4th lvl Pal spell
20th
264,000 gp
264,000 gp
increase the Angelic Aspect, Greater numeric bonus to +5 and the aura to 30ft
1) Assigning an Unlock Level: Now that you have a cost for the next scaling ability, assign a level at which that ability unlocks. This follows the same process as the Pricing the Base Item step, but using the new cost. You should usually round down, but if you're almost at the higher-level price, bump up the level. For example, a prize that priced out at 8,000 gp at a given set of powers would unlock those powers at 9th level (6,900 gp), but if the price hits 9,000 gp, the abilities should instead unlock at 10th level (9,300 gp). (This helped me make the Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level column)
2)Item Requires Skill to Use: Some items require a specific skill to get them to function. This factor should reduce the cost about 10%.
Item Requires Specific Class or Alignment to Use: Even more restrictive than requiring a skill, this limitation cuts the price by 30%.
The above were used to calculate the price of the weapon (FYI the class is paladin and the skill is knowledge religion although it could be something more useful).
Effect
price
price with skill and class requirement
Bless weapon continuous
2.000,00
1.200,00
wrath continuous 12th caster level
24.000,00
14.400,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
18.000,00
10.800,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell
104.000,00
62.400,00
Latest version "The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel" The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel The Champion's Gift, Blade of the Archangel
With a blade almost reaching five feet in length and a hilt close to 13 inches the Champion’s Gift is massive yet elegant sword, striking awe in the hearts of foes. Angelic patterns decorate the hilt guard and the blade. The almost translucent white blade shines with golden celestial syllabary when it is used to smite evil, reading “I am the Champion’s Gift, Blade of the Archangel, ender of evil, the last argument.”
This exquisite Nodachi appears to be just a masterwork weapon in the hands of anyone other than a paladin. Should a character with half or more his total level in the paladin class and maxed per level knowledge religion skill ranks wield it then the weapon gains the abilities as shown on the table below based on his total character level.
While this sword is not unique it is extremely rare for more than one to exist at the same time as it requires a special kind of soul to summon it to existence most times with him being none the wiser. Destiny or even gods will guide events for the soon to be champion to acquire the weapon and from then on a symbiotic relationship will be forge between wielder and blade. The soul will reflect the blade and the blade will reflect the soul. With each reflex ion each of the counterparts refines itself becoming purer and stronger.
Level
Wonder (30%)
Max Item Worth for Assigning an Unlock Level
Property unlocked
Gold cost
Left over gold
1st
90 gp
195,00
masterwork
216
-21,00
2nd
300 gp
600,00
Counts as a reliquary arm**
150
234,00
3rd
900 gp
1.350,00
Bless weapon use activated 1/per day use activated
480
504,00
4th
1,800 gp
2.475,00
+1 bonus
1200
429,00
5th
3,150 gp
3.975,00
Divine favor use activated 3th clvl 1 per day, Bless weapon 2/day
1920
9,00
6th
4,800 gp
5.925,00
Impervious
1.800,00
159,00
7th
7,050 gp
8.475,00
Divine favor use activated 3th clvl 2/day, Bless weapon use activated 3/day
1.920,00
789,00
8th
9,900 gp
11.850,00
+2 bonus*
3.600,00
564,00
9th
13,800 gp
16.200,00
Bless weapon continuous, Divine favor use activated 6th clvl 2/day
3.840,00
1.074,00
10th
18,600 gp
21.600,00
+3 bonus*
6.000,00
474,00
11th
24,600 gp
28.500,00
Divine favor use activated 9th clvl 3/day
7.200,00
174,00
12th
32,400 gp
37.200,00
+4 bonus*
8.400,00
474,00
13th
42,000 gp
48.750,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl, Adamantite
11.640,00
384,00
14th
55,500 gp
63.750,00
+5 bonus*, Resizing
13.200,00
2.184,00
15th
72,000 gp
83.250,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 1/day
21.120,00
564,00
16th
94,500 gp
111.750,00
+6 bonus*
13.200,00
15.864,00
17th
129,000 gp
144.000,00
+7 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 2/day
36.720,00
11.394,00
18th
159,000 gp
182.250,00
+8 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell use activated 3/day
34.320,00
15.324,00
19th
205,500 gp
234.750,00
+9 bonus*, Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl, 4th lvl Pal spell continuous
62.640,00
5.184,00
20th
264,000 gp
264.000,00
+10 bonus, Increase the Angelic Aspect, Greater numeric bonus to +5 and the aura to 30ft
22.800,00
11.634,00
* The player may upon leveling up and unlocking the increase of the enchantment bonus may rearrange the enchantment bonus however he wants as long as the some of the bonuses don’t exceed the ones provided by the table(as per your level) and follow the normal rules for magic weapons. Additionally the player may opt to diminish the total enchantment bonus by 1 to add the sizing property to the weapon until he unlocks it normally upon level 14.
** As per Reliquary arms and shields
***The activation is per use so the player should choose a simple action such as drawing the weapon or saying a quick prayer
Level
comments
1st
Level 1 over the budget by 21g but we can let that slide right?
2nd
Gains the symbol of the deity of the Paladin or an Ideal if the paladin doesn’t follow one, counts as a holy symbol and some consecration benefits nice! Follows the rules of create-reliquary-arms-and-shields
3rd
1 per day bless as a free action when drawing the blade
4th
plain and simple
5th
just barely within budget we gain 1/day divine favor as a free action and bless 2/day as a free action when drawing the sword
6th
I don’t want the holy weapon to get rusty or sundered so …
7th
more uses of our free buffs
8th
plain and simple, the user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
9th
now our blade is always blessed! Oh look at this level we get a feat as well hope it’s improved critical. Divine favor gets better but still only twice per day
10th
at this point I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +2 enchantment the player might want. I would personally go for the +3 plain and simple. The user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
11th
3 times per day as a free action full effect Divine Favor!
12th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +3 enchantment the player might want or any other combination the user might opt to diminish the bonus by 1 to add resizing before level 14
13th
Divine favor continuous and a weapon that can sunder/is harder to sunder
14th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +4 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default on this level so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
15th
Awesome spell as a free action 1 per day. The paladin most likely will be able to cast it from his own spell slots but not as a free action
16th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
17th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. The Blade gets resizing as a default so no need to diminish the bonus by 1 any more
18th
I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination. 3 times per day should be enough for your adventuring day but…
19th
…why not have it up constantly! Yes ! I actually made this weapon just for the sake of this ability. Also I have inputted the option to rearrange the enchantment bonuses once to allow for +5 enchantment the player might want or any other combination
20th
Final rearrange of the enchantment bonuses and we even managed to reach maxxed with some gold to spare. That’s why I increased the benefits of the Angelic Aspect, Greater a little to make for a nice Capstone.
total enchantment lvl
cost
Incremental cost
Incremental cost with discount
1
2.000,00
2.000,00
1.200,00
2
8.000,00
6.000,00
3.600,00
3
18.000,00
10.000,00
6.000,00
4
32.000,00
14.000,00
8.400,00
5
50.000,00
18.000,00
10.800,00
6
72.000,00
22.000,00
13.200,00
7
98.000,00
26.000,00
15.600,00
8
128.000,00
30.000,00
18.000,00
9
162.000,00
34.000,00
20.400,00
10
200.000,00
38.000,00
22.800,00
Effect
price
price with skill and class requirement
3 times per day
1 time per day
Bless weapon continuous
4.000,00
2.400,00
1.440,00
480,00
wrath continuous 12th caster level
48.000,00
28.800,00
17.280,00
5.760,00
Divine favor continuous 3th clvl
12.000,00
7.200,00
4.320,00
1.440,00
Divine favor continuous 6th clvl
24.000,00
14.400,00
8.640,00
2.880,00
Divine favor continuous 9th clvl
36.000,00
21.600,00
12.960,00
4.320,00
Angelic Aspect, Greater 13th clvl,4th level Paladin spell
176.000,00
105.600,00
63.360,00
21.120,00
OK so this weapon should be pretty awesome in actual play. Have I missed something obvious? Are my calculations incorrect? Would you allow it as a DM? Would you pick it up as a Player?