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JNAProductions
2016-03-31, 09:17 PM
Any help, more experienced guys?

MisterKaws
2016-03-31, 09:28 PM
Intelligent? If yes, I think none.

JNAProductions
2016-03-31, 09:32 PM
Non-Intelligent works.

Thurbane
2016-03-31, 09:49 PM
Phrenic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/phrenicCreature.htm) seems to be a favourite for Incarnate Construct, if that's what you're looking for?

JNAProductions
2016-03-31, 09:54 PM
I'm actually looking for the Giant subtype, which you can nab from Incarnate if you're large enough.

Telonius
2016-03-31, 10:07 PM
Do you need it to be a Construct to start? There are a couple of ways to become one (Renegade Mastermaker, and - more horribly - Green Star Adept). You'd just need to find a Large race.

JNAProductions
2016-03-31, 10:11 PM
I need a total LA of +2 or less on a large construct race. If I can achieve it via templates, that is fine.

Troacctid
2016-03-31, 10:41 PM
The lowest ECL on any large creature (regardless of type) is the Half-Ogre from Races of Destiny, at +2 LA and no racial hit dice. I don't think anything else is that low. I'm not aware of any PC-legal templates that would increase your size to large (without shapeshifting) in any book, either. Becoming a Construct is easy, though—the Dustform template turns any creature into a sandy golem for +2 LA.

If you have access to Dragon Magazine, there might be something, but at that point you could just play a +0 LA Giant and skip the intermediate step.

JNAProductions
2016-03-31, 10:43 PM
I've got access to anything, so long as I can cite the source.

Troacctid
2016-03-31, 10:48 PM
In that case, try the Cyclops from (IIRC) Dragon #319.

Thurbane
2016-03-31, 11:04 PM
I was going to suggest Maug, but the RHD and LA are too high...

ShurikVch
2016-04-07, 04:04 AM
The lowest LA for Large-sized Constructs is Warforged Charger, but LA +4 and 4 HD...

The lowest LA for Giants (AFAIK) are Half-Giant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicRaces.htm#halfGiants), Eneko from Secrets of Sarlona, and Taer from Unapproachable East; all of them are LA +1 and Medium-sized


In that case, try the Cyclops from (IIRC) Dragon #319.Cyclopeans are in #323, and they are Humanoids. (The only Giant in #319 is Athasian Half-Giant, LA +1)

Thurbane
2016-04-07, 04:18 AM
The lowest LA for Large-sized Constructs is Warforged Charger, but LA +4 and 4 HD...

Maug (FF p.121) is LA +3, 2 HD (Large Construct [Extraplanar]).

ShurikVch
2016-04-07, 04:43 AM
Maug (FF p.121) is LA +3, 2 HD (Large Construct [Extraplanar]).Sorry! :smallfrown:
(Unfortunately, my database don't list LAs for creatures in Fiend Folio, Oriental Adventures, and Epic Level Handbook, so Maug was filtered off with a pile of other "no listed LA" Constructs)

In theory, if you slap a Half-Ogre or Half-Minotaur template on Warforged, you will get Large-sized Construct for LA +1

If 3rd party Warcraft campaign setting allowed, then Furbolg and Tauren are Large-sized, without any extra racial HD, and LA +1; with Dustform template it will be LA +3

unseenmage
2016-04-07, 05:02 AM
In my sig there's a list of every creature with a LA listed by ECL from all of 3.x.

You could also try the Pathfinder race builder to get exactly what you're after. Though converting to LA could prove problematic.