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PallentisLunam
2016-04-04, 04:47 PM
Do these two stack? For example could a Goliath character who took the Monkey Grip feat wield a Great sword sized for a Huge creature at a -2 penalty?

torrasque666
2016-04-04, 04:51 PM
No. Both make reference to your size, and neither changes it. A Goliath is still a Medium creature (unless they use Mountain Rage to become Large, in which case Monkey Grip/Strongarm Bracers would take effect as Mountain Rage explicitly doesn't stack with Powerful Build.)

MisterKaws
2016-04-04, 04:52 PM
Both are clearly limited to one size larger than the creature, so no.

Gruftzwerg
2016-04-04, 05:04 PM
Find a way to get buffed with "Enlarge Person". Gives you additional reach and stacks with powerful build if I remember right.

PallentisLunam
2016-04-04, 05:24 PM
So Powerful Build is strictly better than monkey grip.

Gruftzwerg
2016-04-04, 05:29 PM
So Powerful Build is strictly better than monkey grip.

PB is by far better than MG. PB doesn't have the -2 penality and gives you bonuses on bullrush, trip and any kind of other sizechecks. MG can only compete in accessibility, due to racial restrictions for PB.

Flickerdart
2016-04-04, 05:32 PM
So Powerful Build is strictly better than monkey grip.

Yes. If you can't get Powerful Grip, get Strongarm Bracers. Monkey Grip is the weakest one of the lot.