Getting the Manyfang Dagger's effect on other Weapons

[zergling.exe]

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There is that "Weapon Equivalences" variant rule from the DMG.

While that does let you use weapons of different sizes without penalty, I would still say that a medium dagger is still a light weapon even if used by a tiny creature (which would consider it a longsword), and thus would not be able to change it into a one handed weapon. Letting you do that would eliminate the entire point of limiting the weapon handedness requirements in morphing as daggers are longswords to tiny creatures, turn it into a handaxe, which would then be considered a two-handed weapon to a small creature, and then make it into a greatsword, completely bypassing the restriction.

So at best a medium creature would be getting a 1d10 x4 without two-handed str bonuses or power attack.

[WhamBamSam]

The ability might be retained if you were to apply Morphing or cast Weapon Shift on your Manyfang Dagger. Ask your DM.

There are also plenty of other things besides Power Attack that you can multiply. Craven is a big one off the top of my head. Daggers are also Shadow Hand weapons, so Shadow Blade is an option. The list goes on, really.

[Sahleb]

Started here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=20647829&postcount=19).



While that does let you use weapons of different sizes without penalty, I would still say that a medium dagger is still a light weapon even if used by a tiny creature (which would consider it a longsword), and thus would not be able to change it into a one handed weapon. Letting you do that would eliminate the entire point of limiting the weapon handedness requirements in morphing as daggers are longswords to tiny creatures, turn it into a handaxe, which would then be considered a two-handed weapon to a small creature, and then make it into a greatsword, completely bypassing the restriction.

So at best a medium creature would be getting a 1d10 x4 without two-handed str bonuses or power attack.

That's contrary to the rules. It's easier to not play with weapon equivalencies, which is explicitly a variant rule, than to begin making about with houseruling weapon sizes.

If a medium paladin buys a huge manyfang dagger, it's a two-handed weapon with -4 to hit, end of story. If you need a fluff reason not to use weapon equivalencies, it's because daggers are sized all wrong to be used as swords - the hilts are way too long compared to the blade, but too short for it to be a polearm.

Besides, if it was a light weapon, you could two weapon fight with two huge daggers, which is stupid.