(Pathfinder) Wizards in Real World

[Xar Zarath]

So I have done a few threads like these on GitP. So imagine if you will if several (straight up vanilla) 20th level wizards were in our world. These wizards come from this world and were given tutelage in magic before being sent back. They decided to stay in this world *just because* They know of each other but are not on speaking terms (a sort of Cold Peace) These wizards are named (I made up these names just for this scenario =P) and are at:

Aaron Prism (Male - Illusionist) USA - specifically Manhattan

Belinda Summons ( Female - Conjurer) South America - Rio, Brazil specifically

Bala See Rathan (Male - Diviner) India - New Delhi

Jacque Mortis (Male - Necromancer) (Europe) France - Paris

Nadia Charma (Female - Enchanter) (East Europe) Serbia - Belgrade

Lee Pro Teck ( Male - Abjurer) China - Shanghai

Cassandra Morph (Female - Transmuter) Cyprus - Nikosia

Dillon Burst (Male - Evoker) Australia - Melbourne

All these wizards are human. They stay in their respective locations. The governments, peoples the whole world knows about them. So bearing these particulars in mind along with the following:

*The Inner and Outer Sphere planes exist. (All planes/universes exist barring editing)
*The Wizards will may teach others their magic (a few apprentices but not Hogwarts style)
*No gaming shenanigans can be done (No pun-pun etc)
*Each of the wizards has their own bolthole (private demiplane etc)

1) How do you think the worlds RL religions will respond?
2) How do you think this Cold War-esque Peace will last before govt's force them to respond?
3) What do you think the reaction from the public will be now and in future?
4) How do you think this will change the fabric of our world/society/industry?
5) Give me your personal take on what might happen? How would you deal with it personally if such a event and peoples suddenly happened in our actual world?

*Edited*

[Dr. Cliché]

1) & 2) I'm not sure what you mean here.

3) Does it matter? I mean, even if the people despise these wizards, there's bugger all they can do about them. Regardless, I imagine it will come down to their individual personalities and how they use their powers.

4) However they want to change it. Unless their spells are severely limited, they can literally do just about anything they can think of. They can use magic to replace technology (think teleportation circles), or they could turn their country into an undead nightmare. They could use illusions to manipulate their populations, or unleash demons on everyone.

5) Well, I imagine vocal aetheists and others who take the piss out of psychics and such will suddenly be a lot less vocal. :smallwink:

In terms of me personally, you've already killed the only interaction that would interest me - i.e. learning magic from one of the wizards.

One other interesting thing would be how religion reacted to this.

[Xar Zarath]

...In terms of me personally, you've already killed the only interaction that would interest me - i.e. learning magic from one of the wizards.

One other interesting thing would be how religion reacted to this.

edited already :smalltongue:

[dascarletm]

What sort of spells do they have in their books, and can they research spells independently?

It would be interesting if each had only spells from their specialty and universals

[Xar Zarath]

What sort of spells do they have in their books, and can they research spells independently?

As many as a 20th level wizard has. And yes they can research independently. As well as travel the planes for more spells.


...It would be interesting if each had only spells from their specialty and universals

Interesting scenario but no. They have spells as stated above.

[BWR]

Several of these questions run up against the board's No-no policy on discussing RL religion and politics.
Suffice to say things won't end well.

[Dr. Cliché]

Okay, in that case I'd try to get picked as an apprentice.

And wonder if Dead Men's Pointy Shoes is in effect. :smallamused:

[Yahzi]

Either they would teach magic, or be destroyed. If tactical nukes can't do it, there's always treachery: Nimue defeated Merlin, after all.

[Dr. Cliché]

Either they would teach magic, or be destroyed. If tactical nukes can't do it, there's always treachery: Nimue defeated Merlin, after all.

A competent Lv20 wizard will be far beyond any treachery from mortals.

And, Teleport Without Error should get them away from any attempted nukings.

[Coidzor]

So they're actually only ever astrally projecting into our world and are playing a game of xorvintaal without actually being dragons.

How they act depends upon their base personality and upbringing as modified by the horrors of ending up on Golarion or some other alternate prime or out in the planes and then surviving to be paranoid, socially crippled level 20 characters.

About the only disadvantage they have for bending nations to their will is lack of Mindrape to suborn the heads of state, religions, and media, I believe. Aside from competition from one another because they can't even draw up a non-interference pact in their own chosen areas to set up their fief.

Areas of heavy natural resources, like Michigan's iron reserves or similar would be desirable to construct-loving wizards, and the rust belt would jump at the opportunity to churn out construct parts at an industrial rate. A savvy wizard could get the long duration gears on the ground to conquer several material worlds just from trading with us. Why spend time on fabricate yourself when mundane industrialization handles it for petty cash.

Salt reserves and the like, or other plentiful materials that are cheap to us but valuable in the pathfinder rules would also be acquired. Trivial expenditures of coin or jewels or spell slots would gain a wizard enough salt to afford to craft an epic magic item.

Ultimately though, the real competition is all of the 3.5 wizards, sorcerers, and druids from earlier versions of this thread. Especially if they can reverse engineer how to cast banned schools from capturing one of the PF wizards or apprentices. Or some of them can work together.

One of the savvier ones will collect that cash prize for demonstrating supernatural powers, unless they make themselves known in a way that causes the foundation to withdraw the challenge first.

Oh, and there may be a scramble to control the interesting resources of Africa, like diamonds and emeralds out the ass, since it's not the backyard of any of them.

Ultimately, I suspect the necromancer is eventually going to be attracted to all the death and war in the middle east, so my guess is that the first conflict is Cyprus girl not liking him anywhere near Cyprus.

We'd also get to find out if the carnage we make in war now spontaneously generates undead due to the presence of magic in the world.

So any serial killers executed soon or even a bit before this will rise as mohrgs and bad times will happen, causing certain people to flip out over the zombie apocalypse with attendant issues. Frenchy may be blamed if they know he's a necromancer. Or he may put a stop to the trouble and gain public goodwill.


Okay, in that case I'd try to get picked as an apprentice.

And wonder if Dead Men's Pointy Shoes is in effect. :smallamused:

It would be suicidal even if you weren't dealing with an astral projection, because you wouldn't get enough XP to be level 20 yourself and it'd take serendipity itself for you to capture their spellbook.

But this being PF wizardry, you can't master a captured spellbook or, iirc, even memorize spells from it that you haven't already researched or scribed into one of your books. So you'd be vulnerable to the other wizards, even if everything went perfectly.


As many as a 20th level wizard has. And yes they can research independently. As well as travel the planes for more

Aka, assume all PF spells, maybe a few proto-PF spells, no 3.X spells, and maybe a few custom spells relating to their specialty that means they exceed the other wizards in that sphere, no?

[Xar Zarath]

assume all PF spells, maybe a few proto-PF spells, no 3.X spells, and maybe a few custom spells relating to their specialty that means they exceed the other wizards in that sphere, no?

Yup, although they exceed the other wizards by having more spells of their chosen specialisation. So necromancer has more necromancy spells than evoker, that sort of thing.

[Zanos]

It's worth noting that the difference in specialist schools is somewhat trivial in pathfinder. You can still cast spells of your banned schools, they just cost 2 slots each.