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Darthor
2016-04-22, 01:11 PM
Good afternoon,

One of my friends plays a malconvoker/wizard in our 3.5 table, with Celerity and Rapid Summoning (Wizard ACF, not sure about the name...afb right now, summons as standard, summon gets only a standard action when it appears).

Let's assume 2 characters, Wizard1 (my friend), Wizard2 (enemy).

Wizard2 ready a counterspell action

Wizard1 casts Orb of Force

Counterspell triggers "Dispel Magic" about to be cast, Wizard1 -> Celerity -> Summon Monster -> Grapple Wizard2

Does the summon stops the wizard2 from counterspelling? In wich order does this action stackpile happens?

Thanks for your time,

Darthor

Flickerdart
2016-04-22, 01:30 PM
Rapid Summoning (see here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm)) does not grant the creature an action immediately when it is summoned. The creature can take a standard action in the round it is summoned, but there's no immediately about it. Since standard actions cannot interrupt unless they were readied, the creature cannot grapple the wizard until after the action pile resolves.

OldTrees1
2016-04-22, 01:35 PM
Readied action

Counterspell -> Summon Monster V -> Summoned Monster V's turn -> Summoner's turn continues.

Celerity -> Counterspell -> Summon Monster V -> Summoned Monster V's turn -> Summoner's turn continues.

Summon Monster I -> Counterspell -> Summon Monster V -> Summoned Monster V's turn -> Summoned Monster I's turn -> Summoner's turn continues.


It appears where you designate and acts immediately
Now the summoned monster I can act immediately, but only AoOs, readied actions and immediate actions are immediate.

Summoned Monster I's AoO -> Counterspell -> Summon Monster V -> Summoned Monster V's turn -> Summoned Monster I's turn -> Summoner's turn continues.


Summary: The summoned monster can make an Attack of Opportunity if Wizard 2 provokes one by their counterspelling, but does not get their turn until after the stack is resolved.