Musket Training and Guns everywhere question

[ShiningCrusader]

Hi Everyone.
so a gunslinger gets gun training at 5th lv and musket master gets it at 5th lv also (but musket only)
but in a "Guns Everywhere" campaign, the gunslinger loses gunsmith feat and gains Gun training at 1st lv. now this is a silly question, but since you now get it at 1st lv does that mean that a musket master could technically get musket training at 1st lv since it replaces gun training? though i kinda doubt it due to the text "at 5th lv"

[Psyren]

Not the answer you're likely looking for, but "ask your GM." PF RAW is "Emerging Guns" and every other configuration is up to the GM to figure out what the consequences/permutations will ultimately be. This perhaps goes double for Guns Everywhere, which assumes Advanced Firearms are all over the place like candy, and so gun-using classes and archetypes should be modified accordingly.

It tells you how to handle the basic Gunslinger, but you're on your own with most other things.

[NightbringerGGZ]

No, you don't gain Musket Training at level 1. You gain Gun Training 1 on your pick of a firearms, with the that bonus increasing at level 5 and every 4 levels there after and then you gain Musket Training at level 5, with that bonus scaling separately but at the same levels as Musket Training starting at level 9.

Musket Training replaces Gun Training entirely, so these are separate bonuses and the +1 damage bonuses would technically stack. The dexterity to damage will not stack as Paizo has released FAQs that shut down double dipping on a single attribute. Note that this archetype was written with the assumption that you'd be using Emerging Guns rules and this extra damage definitely is not following the "rules as intended". Talk to your GM about this.

Another note, the chief benefit of the Musket Master (aside from dexterity to damage) is the ability to rapidly reload 2-handed firearms. With Guns Everywhere rules and Advanced Firearms this problem ceases to be a concern. You'd probably be better off with a different archetype, or even just dipping Gunslinger and then going with another class.