Goth In D&D 3.5

[Bartmanhomer]

I just thought of something. What if there Goths in D&D 3.5? I think goths could be consider a race or probably a character dress as goth. What do you think? What's your opinion on this topic?

[BowStreetRunner]

If you are talking about the people who migrated from Sweden, across the Baltic to the Vistula basin and then the lower Danube, eventually becoming the first of the major Germanic peoples to adopt Christianity, then I would say it depends upon your campaign world. Specific real-world ethnic groups like the Goths, Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Franks, Danes, Vandals, etc, etc, etc are sometimes partially represented when their cultural characteristics are adopted by various in-game races. Dwarven culture in a particular game for instance might be based on various real-world cultures, exhibiting traits of Norse, Germanic peoples, Scots, and others.

If you are talking about the modern Gothic subculture I would go with Drow.

[Âmesang]

Isn't that half-of-the-point of necromancy? :smalltongue:

"Crawling in my robes! These wounds require elixir…"

[Thurbane]

Quite a few characters in the books have a slightly "goth" look to them (depending whether you mean traditional goth, cyber-goth etc.)

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/UnA_Gallery/79180.jpg

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/ca_gallery/85451.jpg

http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/cw_ag/75396.jpg

[Telonius]

Shadar-Kai. Maybe Dirgesingers as a PrC.

[Gildedragon]

Classwise:
Necromancers (Cleric Necromancers, Wizard, True Necromancers, Dread Necromancer...)
Shadowcasters
Binders

Race:
Dark (template)
Deep (template)
Necropolitan (template)
Unseelie Fey (template)
Infernal Planetouched (Tiefling, Fey'ri), Hellbred, Necrotouched...

[daremetoidareyo]

Kender make the best goths. Start all sentences with "everything is pointless, so I figured it didn't matter if..."

Also half orc barbarians with ranks in perform (bad poetry) make the second best. "Grog's heart like smashed kitten. AND SUNLIGHT HURT GROGS EYES!"

Clerics of pelor make the most appropriate goths. "I am the light! in a dark, dark, world." Blend with kender for extra points.

[ZeroiaSD]

Dhampires! PF has them, I'd expect something in 3.5 might.... but the *half* undead, cursed existence, born of a monster but with the conscious of a living person, etc. etc..

[Coidzor]

Barbarians have you covered on the one hand.

Warlocks and Dread Necromancers have you covered on the other.

[ShurikVch]

Wear Gothic plate armour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_plate_armour)
Go into Warmaster PrC (Sword and Fist); ask to build your Tower, Castle, and Huge Castle in Gothic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture) style
Invest some skill points into Speak Language (Gothic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_language)) and Craft (calligraphy) with Blackletter (Gothic) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter) and Visigothic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigothic_script)
Dip in Transmuter wizard, take Gothic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_%28moth%29) Moth as your Familiar (+3 on Spellcraft checks, other statistics are equivalent to Thrush)

[Vortenger]

Snip.

*Sniff.* It's beautiful. Simply beautiful.

[GreyBlack]

What, as in a visigoth? An ostrogoth? With both of them, I'd go with the Barbarian/Ranger. Make sure you take Favored Enemy (Roman) for full flavor.

[Honest Tiefling]

Barbarians have you covered on the one hand.

Incorrect! A proper barbarian is never fully covered! His or her gleaming muscles must be on display at all times. It's a rule.

My serious opinions on the topic is that no PVC in medieval fantasy. Also, synthetic dyes for hair is also a no go. Through boning material did exist, so corsets would be a thing.

[Marlowe]

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As for the other Goths...I must admit I always wanted to collect an Ostrogothic army and paint just one guy in the back rank up in black leather and eye-liner with his mates posed to be giving him odd looks.

[Hamste]

My first thought was that you were talking about Visigoths until I read the thread and realized your probably meant the subculture...I don't really know about either but if children's TV shows are to believed Visigoths are barbarians (Got to love Phineas and Ferb...they actually made a joke about confusing Visigoths and Goths) and Goths as in the subculture are probably experts or commoners (by majority, obviously people probably have classes other than npc).

[KillingAScarab]

I'm just going to point out that the 3.0 Ravenloft Campaign Setting was published by an imprint of White Wolf (http://www.clashingblack.com/alas/strip/2000-08-16). That should cover anything serious I have to contribute.


Isn't that half-of-the-point of necromancy? :smalltongue:

"Crawling in my robes! These wounds require elixir…"Silly, the reason those wounds they will not he-al is because they're aggravated (http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Aggravated_damage).


Dhampires! PF has them, I'd expect something in 3.5 might.... but the *half* undead, cursed existence, born of a monster but with the conscious of a living person, etc. etc..O.K., slightly more serious, if you use the bloodline rules from Unearthed Arcana there's a vampire bloodline (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/bloodlines.htm#vampire). Check Welknair's Bloodline Guide (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?208703-3-5e-Bloodline-Guide-What-in-the-Nine-Hells-is-a-Bloodline&p=11487854#post11487854) if it's confusing.

If Pathfinder is germane, you've already got Cheliax (http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Cheliax), Ustalav (http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Ustalav) and Geb (http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Geb) in the Inner Sea region of Golarion.

[Willie the Duck]

I just thought of something. What if there Goths in D&D 3.5? I think goths could be consider a race or probably a character dress as goth. What do you think? What's your opinion on this topic?

Virtually every undead or dark-fae/dark-elf stereotype that doesn't drift into zombie-move tropes fits this already. Why do we need a race or class for this?

[Marlowe]

Incidentally, if we're talking "historical" Goths, remember that the Ostros ran Italy as a kingdom for seventy years, and the Visi Spain for three hundred. Not exactly shaggy-dog barbarians. And they most definitely did not have bare chests (no Germans did). Long tunics with extra-long sleeves to protect the hands when handling a horse (because gloves hadn't been invented yet) was traditionally Gothic. They stopped wearing these sometime in the 6th century AD (possibly shortly after the invention of gloves).

The Rohirrim from a certain little known fantasy franchise are variously described as Old English with Gothic culture or Goths with Old English names.

[GreyBlack]

Incidentally, if we're talking "historical" Goths, remember that the Ostros ran Italy as a kingdom for seventy years, and the Visi Spain for three hundred. Not exactly shaggy-dog barbarians. And they most definitely did not have bare chests (no Germans did). Long tunics with extra-long sleeves to protect the hands when handling a horse (because gloves hadn't been invented yet) was traditionally Gothic. They stopped wearing these sometime in the 6th century AD (possibly shortly after the invention of gloves).

The Rohirrim from a certain little known fantasy franchise are variously described as Old English with Gothic culture or Goths with Old English names.

So rangers? Or cavaliers? Maybe with some Druidic influence and HOLY **** I JUST GOT A CAMPAIGN IDEA.