Clistenes
2016-05-10, 10:44 AM
You know, I have been wondering how do those epic liches and vampires and quasi-gods and hero-gods get more character levels. There aren't many challenges for them, many of them stay all the time in dungeons or castles instead of adventuring, and they have insane Level Adjustments.
So, how many ways are for them to get pseudo-levels in RAW? Right now I can think of:
-Magic Items: They can give you feats, skill ranks, ability enhancements, known spells (Runestaffs, Knownstones) and even class features (Monk’s Belt, Shroudcrown).
-Templates: Many of them can be gained through rituals. Some of them give you more hit points (Dreadnaught, Immortal), ability bonuses (which in turn give you bonuses to attack, saves and more hit points), feats (Fire Souled), spells or spell-like abilities, and powers comparable to class features.
-Lycanthropy: You can get a bunch of HD and some nice powers. A pity those are sucky Animal HD. Plus only Giants and Humanoids can become lycanthropes.
-Epic Spells: It's easy to get permanent enhancements to almost anything, save advancing your level as spellcaster.
And if we are willing to go into Munchkin territory:
-Polymorph Any Object + Contingent Maximized Awaken, gain bonuses to Charisma and 2 Magical Beast HD every time.
-Cast Baleful Polymorph to turn a huge animal into a frog or squirrel, Shapechange into a Barghest, Feed and get bonus Outsider HD, Con and Str and Natural Armor bonuses.
-Create a Simulacrum, use the psionic power Fusion, and get feats and spells. A Demigod could make it permanent with Alter Reality.
-Dark Chaos Shuffle.
And of course, if you want to go super-Munchkin:
-Pun-Pun.
But I'm sure there are many more ways. Any ideas?
So, how many ways are for them to get pseudo-levels in RAW? Right now I can think of:
-Magic Items: They can give you feats, skill ranks, ability enhancements, known spells (Runestaffs, Knownstones) and even class features (Monk’s Belt, Shroudcrown).
-Templates: Many of them can be gained through rituals. Some of them give you more hit points (Dreadnaught, Immortal), ability bonuses (which in turn give you bonuses to attack, saves and more hit points), feats (Fire Souled), spells or spell-like abilities, and powers comparable to class features.
-Lycanthropy: You can get a bunch of HD and some nice powers. A pity those are sucky Animal HD. Plus only Giants and Humanoids can become lycanthropes.
-Epic Spells: It's easy to get permanent enhancements to almost anything, save advancing your level as spellcaster.
And if we are willing to go into Munchkin territory:
-Polymorph Any Object + Contingent Maximized Awaken, gain bonuses to Charisma and 2 Magical Beast HD every time.
-Cast Baleful Polymorph to turn a huge animal into a frog or squirrel, Shapechange into a Barghest, Feed and get bonus Outsider HD, Con and Str and Natural Armor bonuses.
-Create a Simulacrum, use the psionic power Fusion, and get feats and spells. A Demigod could make it permanent with Alter Reality.
-Dark Chaos Shuffle.
And of course, if you want to go super-Munchkin:
-Pun-Pun.
But I'm sure there are many more ways. Any ideas?