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albatrossen
2016-05-16, 01:44 PM
Hi there.
I really want to play a character who rather wants to use illusions rather than killing stuff. I especially think of Major image level 3. but anything illusionlike is welcome, Also illusions that could come in handy for a trickster kind of guy would be of interest.
So please bring in some good stories of how to use a good illusion and how to make them believeable. I´m going to play a bard who is not much for killing as it ruins his neutralilty as a talespinner.

OR if you know the perfect link to an illusionist handbook, then there might be no reason to reinvent the whole thing.

nedz
2016-05-16, 01:58 PM
The thing about illusions is that they are very DM dependant. Also your idea has to make sense - which is entirely circumstantial: I had one player come up with a brilliant Silent Image - only the monsters were Blind.

There are a whole category, or several maybe, of Illusions spells which are less flexible - these are a lot more reliable: Invisibility, Colour Spray etc.

Gildedragon
2016-05-16, 02:20 PM
First choice: hard to disbelieve or mighty as hell when disbelieved? There are mutually exclusive... Unless your DM lets you set the pseudoreality of your illusions anywhere from 0 to the max allowed for that spell; if your DM lets you change it on the fly... (Maybe a feat and a spellcraft check 15+Spell Level+A percentage of the change?, as a FRA that provokes AoO?)

Shadowcraft Mage into Shadowcrafter
There's a handbook (this is the nasty when disbelieved; ask your DM if you can set the pseudoreality of your illusions to lower than your max capacity)

The GOD wizard guide has a list of great illusions

There are three big options for illusion sorts: Wizard, Beguiler, Bard: Sorcerer is a bit limited UNLESS you're using Shadowcraft Mage

If you're going with hard to disbelieve: Illusionist (Chains of Disbelief, Illusion Mastery*) + Focused Specialist

*this is v naughty with Uncanny Forethought

nedz
2016-05-16, 04:38 PM
There are three big options for illusion sorts: Wizard, Beguiler, Bard: Sorcerer is a bit limited UNLESS you're using Shadowcraft Mage

Sorcerer is fine - you have enough spells known to cover all the main tricks. Beguiler is actually the one which is a bit limited since there are several key spells which are not on their list; now you can get many of them - but not all. I have played both.