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Duff
2007-06-26, 05:51 AM
Are there any any classes or easy-entry prestige classes with full BAB and Perform as a class skill?

What is the lowest level full caster prestige class a wizerd can get into?

What would be the best full caster prestige class for a sorceress to take to get Darkvision?

Are there any classes or prestige classes with full BAB but not martial weapons proficiency?

Krimm_Blackleaf
2007-06-26, 05:53 AM
Really, I can only answer one of them off the top of my head. That would be the second question. The lowest level entry prestige class for a wizard that also has full caster progression would be the Master Specialist from Complete Mage.

Starsinger
2007-06-26, 06:09 AM
Dervish for the first one.

Zincorium
2007-06-26, 06:14 AM
Are there any any classes or easy-entry prestige classes with full BAB and Perform as a class skill?

What is the lowest level full caster prestige class a wizerd can get into?

What would be the best full caster prestige class for a sorceress to take to get Darkvision?

Are there any classes or prestige classes with full BAB but not martial weapons proficiency?

1. No base classes in the books I have access to, and not sure what you define as easy entry. Easy entry from what starting set of classes? I'd like to help, but it's a very vague question.

2. Master specialist FTW like Krimm said.

3. A race with darkvision is much better for this. Or, the darkvision spell, which is an hour a level. All the PrC's I know which give darkvision are only partial casting.

4. There are several full BAB prestige classes which do not add martial weapon proficiency, but since all full BAB base classes have it from what I know, that isn't usually a problem.

PlatinumJester
2007-06-26, 07:00 AM
If you want darkvision then get lenses of darkvision.

Duff
2007-06-26, 07:29 AM
sorry - 1st question - easy as in would let one become a Dervish without taking a level of non-BAB class (such as Rogue 1) or having to hold off becomming a Dervish until the Dance can be good enough as cross class. Easy as in no more than 1 feat and BAB +4 or less. Yes there is the feat that lets you take it as a class skill, other options?
She's 4 th level now and canvassing options

The sorceress is ongoing, 3rd ed had Elemental Savants, does 3.5?

4th question was more a case of - I was wondering about a user of an exotic weapon. Given that, martial waepons would be a "Waste". Mostly a thought experiment, might get a run if it turns out looking interesting...

Human Paragon 3
2007-06-26, 08:45 AM
I believe Fiend Blooded PrC is a full castinig sorcerer class that gets dark vision and a load of other abillities: increased spell list, abillity enhancements and a familiar upgrade.

Telonius
2007-06-26, 08:50 AM
The "Darkwater Knight" from Dragon 314 gives you Darkvision early on. Not sure if it's a full casting PrC, but you could switch off after you get Darkvision.

The "Otherworldly" feat from Faerun grants it too, but I think that's first-level only for elves of a particular region.

Soepvork
2007-06-26, 11:00 AM
Easy as in no more than 1 feat and BAB +4 or less. Yes there is the feat that lets you take it as a class skill, other options?
She's 4 th level now and canvassing options


One feat and BAB of +4 or less suggest a PrC that can be gotten into at 5th level. I think, as a general rule, the earliest you can get into a PrC is 6th level (Master Specialist being (the one?) exception)

Murongo
2007-06-26, 12:10 PM
This doesn't really warrant its own thread so I'll add it here as it is semi-on-topic.

I was reading The Book of Exalted Deeds, which I know has been called the book of exalted cheese, etc, but this seems too ridiculous. Anointed Knight's inspired strike. It says you can take it if your character level + your charisma mod is 11. It costs 100g and takes 8 hours to perform and afterwards your character gets 3 attacks/day at your highest BAB as a free action.

Now do they mean anointed knight levels + charisma? Because that would make it slightly less ridiculous than "character levels". I mean... 3 free action attacks at highest BAB? That's... insane.

Jasdoif
2007-06-26, 01:31 PM
3. A race with darkvision is much better for this. Or, the darkvision spell, which is an hour a level. All the PrC's I know which give darkvision are only partial casting.Indeed. You can make the darkvision spell permanent, and if you're casting permanency yourself it can't be dispelled, short of disjunction.

Duff
2007-06-27, 06:53 AM
I believe Fiend Blooded PrC is a full castinig sorcerer class that gets dark vision and a load of other abillities: increased spell list, abillity enhancements and a familiar upgrade.

Which book?

Leon
2007-06-27, 07:38 AM
One feat and BAB of +4 or less suggest a PrC that can be gotten into at 5th level. I think, as a general rule, the earliest you can get into a PrC is 6th level (Master Specialist being (the one?) exception)

5th to 6th, with a more of a lean to 5th these days it seems



Which book?

Heroes of Horror (i think)



This doesn't really warrant its own thread so I'll add it here as it is semi-on-topic.

I was reading The Book of Exalted Deeds, which I know has been called the book of exalted cheese, etc, but this seems too ridiculous. Anointed Knight's inspired strike. It says you can take it if your character level + your charisma mod is 11. It costs 100g and takes 8 hours to perform and afterwards your character gets 3 attacks/day at your highest BAB as a free action.

Now do they mean anointed knight levels + charisma? Because that would make it slightly less ridiculous than "character levels". I mean... 3 free action attacks at highest BAB? That's... insane.

Ive always read it as Class level

Ranis
2007-06-27, 07:45 AM
The sorceress is ongoing, 3rd ed had Elemental Savants, does 3.5?

Yes. Elemental Savants are in Complete Arcane.