how does one become Colossal Plus

[Amdy_vill]

How do i make a character that is Colossal Plus and what damage would this do to the build

[Khedrac]

Step 1. Become a dragon.

The Colossal Plus size category only applies to dragons, other creature the same size (or larger) remain Colossal.

What would it do to the build? - Well that all depends on the build.

[Amdy_vill]

I am trying to make a monk that is as larger as it can be

[ExLibrisMortis]

Colossal+ is a special designation that is pretty much reserved for advanced or epic dragons. It's not a size category, and the changes from Colossal to Colossal+ are defined only for dragons.

Dragons typically don't reach the colossal+ stage until they have 50 HD or more. So, to answer your question: it would damage your build, in the sense that you'd have to play a 50 HD creature with an LA of --, which is impossible. Even if you do get a level adjustment approved, you're still starting at ECL 50+.

[Amdy_vill]

how would i get to just Colossal.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

A dragonwrought kobold should be able to get to Colossal+ with enough size boosts. The giant size spell could get you to Colossal, for instance, and it has no wording saying it doesn't stack with other size boosts (like what the expansion power has).

[ExLibrisMortis]

A dragonwrought kobold should be able to get to Colossal+ with enough size boosts. The giant size spell could get you to Colossal, for instance, and it has no wording saying it doesn't stack with other size boosts (like what the expansion power has).
Colossal+ isn't gained by increasing size, it's an effect of gaining age categories/hit dice. The transition from colossal to colossal+ goes as follows:

A dragon that is Tiny as a wyrmling is in the smaller group, a dragon that is Small as a wyrmling and never reaches Colossal size is in the normal group, and a dragon that is Small to Large as a wyrmling and reaches Colossal by the great wyrm stage is in the larger group.

A smaller-sized dragon becomes Colossal when it gains two age categories (+6 HD) beyond great wyrm. It increases to Colossal+ (see below) when it gains an additional four age categories (+18 HD total). Thus, a white great wyrm reaches Colossal size at 42 HD and Colossal+ at 54 HD, while a brass great wyrm becomes Colossal at 43 HD and Colossal+ at 55 HD.

A normal-sized dragon becomes Colossal when it gains one age category (3 Hit Dice) beyond great wyrm. It increases to Colossal+ when it gains an additional four age categories (+15 HD total). Thus, a green great wyrm reaches Colossal size at 41 HD and Colossal+ size at 53 HD, while a bronze dragon becomes Colossal at 42 HD and Colossal+ at 54 HD.

A larger-sized dragon becomes Colossal+ when it gains four age categories (12 HD) more than it needed to reach the Colossal size. Thus, a silver or red dragon becomes Colossal+ at 52 HD, and a gold dragon becomes Colossal+ at 53 HD.
I think dragonwrought kobolds would fall in the 'smaller-sized' category, probably being born as tiny creatures (but I'm not sure there are rules for kobold children sizes). You'd need to use some really heavy age-cursing to get old enough to become colossal+.

[Psyren]

how would i get to just Colossal.

1) Find something colossal(+)
2) True Mind Switch
3) ???
4) Profit

[Âmesang]

Become a deity and pick up the Alter Size ability. It'll allow you to become 1,600 ft. tall. No real change in statistics, but at least you'll be big.

[Amdy_vill]

1) Find something colossal(+)
2) True Mind Switch
3) ???
4) Profit

can a this build do this http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Ultimate_Monk_(3.5e_Optimized_Character_Build)

[Rebel7284]

The easiest way I know of gaining size is Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale
Racial HD 3/Psychic Warrior 4 with practiced manifester can augment expansion to become Gargantuan a bunch of times per day. Add on those gauntlets that give powerful build and use colossal weapons at level 7. :)

If you want actual colossal size, the Giant Size spell is probablh your best bet and requires caster level 20 to be colossal.

Edit:
To boost your monk, you can do Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale Monk 2/Psychic Warrior X with Talashora (sp?) Feat for getting full monk abilities and still being able to grow when needed. Improved Natural Attack gets you to colossal

[Seppo87]

Monk stp erudite with tashalatora & kung fu genius, use Giant Size and divine power, iirc you can persist powers at will with infinite pp shenanigans.

[ExLibrisMortis]

can a this build do this http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Ultimate_Monk_(3.5e_Optimized_Character_Build)
That page contains some builds, but I'm not sure what part you are referring to.

[ShurikVch]

Which sources allowed?
How cheese-sensitive is the DM?
Because one possible suggestion is to start as some Magical Beast, take Kaiju template, then Petitioner (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineMinions.htm#petitioners) - to shake off all those extra HD, then something to rise your Int above 2

[MaxiDuRaritry]

There's a build floating around named Tiny von BigMcLargeHuge (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=6428.0) that can approximate this using a regular Races of Destiny Web Enhancement kobold while still remaining very small. You'd need to alter it by taking a flaw and the Human Heritage or Human-Blooded feats, but being massive while remaining minuscule is quite doable.

I believe one of the dragon books mentioned that kobolds have age categories identical to the dragons in the Monster Manual, and so if you get large enough, you might be able to hit Colossal+, especially if you start out with Jotunbrud to count as Large when you were born...

[fishyfishyfishy]

If you don't actually need to be that big and are after the size increases for damage dice then the spell Greater Mighty Wallop is all you need.

[Inevitability]

I've seen people argue a dragonwrought kobold should turn colossal+ after getting 12 HD, but I'm fairly sure it doesn't work that way.


There's a build floating around named Tiny von BigMcLargeHuge (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=6428.0) that can approximate this using a regular Races of Destiny Web Enhancement kobold while still remaining very small. You'd need to alter it by taking a flaw and the Human Heritage or Human-Blooded feats, but being massive while remaining minuscule is quite doable.

The enhanced kobold is from the Races of the Dragon web enhancement.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

The enhanced kobold is from the Races of the Dragon web enhancement.And all thanks to Supernatural male enhancement.

[Buufreak]

And all thanks to Supernatural male enhancement.

Can I Sig?

[Kish]

(looks at the thread title) Eat more.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Can I Sig?...Sure. Whitetext