Fighters with Leadership

[emulord]

In old versions of D&D high level fighters get their own castles.

If Leadership is a Fighter feat, and only level 6+ fighters can take it, are fighters still Tier 5?

[Honest Tiefling]

I think by the time you appear to be fixing the fighter by giving them a PC of another class, you should really just reconsider the fighter as a whole.

[Red Fel]

In old versions of D&D high level fighters get their own castles.

If Leadership is a Fighter feat, and only level 6+ fighters can take it, are fighters still Tier 5?

Yes.

Having a follower that can do anything doesn't mean that you can; it means your follower can. That says nothing about how versatile the Fighter class is, and everything about how broken the Leadership feat is.

You may as well ask, "If a Fighter has a Candle of Invocation, and cheeses it for infinite wishes, are Fighters still Tier 5?" Yes. Despite the fact that you can now do anything, that's a function of the Candle of Invocation, not of the Fighter class.

[Troacctid]

I have tried this fix before and it doesn't work very well.

[OldTrees1]

When the XYZ features are "choose an ABC" and characters normally get to choose some ABCs in addition to their XYZ features, then judging the value/strength/versatility of the XYZ features falls into a continuum between 2 camps:

Camp 1: Judge XYZ features solely by what they provide that is unique to XYZ feature
Camp 2: Judge XYZ features by everything they provide even if it is not unique to XYZ features


Any attempt to have a reasonable discussion about an XYZ that is based around XYZ feature that are "choose an ABC" can only be done if Camp 2 is given a fair hearing.

[ExLibrisMortis]

Essentially, you'd get a fighter, sitting somewhere in a castle, trying to rule a country with cross-class diplomacy ranks, while his cohort the wizard goes out adventuring.