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Death_Lord12
2016-06-22, 10:27 AM
I'm making an Allurin (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Allurin_(3.5e_Race)) (the LA +1 version) as an NPC sorcerer lvl 20, but I need help deciding which spells to know. I want it to be similar to a succubus in that it typically uses deception/enchantments instead of direct combat, but if it is in combat I want it to still have a use, maybe turning enemies against each other? Ways of avoiding being hit is always nice too. Ways of doing damage might be good but I'd prefer it to be from a distance so this NPC doesn't die.

Here's the feats it has, as some spells will not be very useful with these feats:

Functional Wings (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Functional_Wings_(3.5e_Feat))
Humanoid Guise (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Humanoid_Guise_(3.5e_Feat))
Succubus Sorcery (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Succubus_Sorcery_(3.5e_Feat))
Charm Person
Hypnotism
Detect Thoughts
Suggestion
Tongues
Charm Monster
Dominate Person
Mass Suggestion
Ethereal Jaunt
Greater Teleport
Summon Monster VIII (Vrock)
Sympathy
Dominate MonsterFiendish Telepathy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Fiendish_Telepathy_(3.5e_Feat))
Poison Kiss (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Poison_Kiss_(3.5e_Feat))
True Succubus Kiss (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/True_Succubus_Kiss_(3.5e_Feat))
Greater Abyssal Heritage (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Greater_Abyssal_Heritage_(3.5e_Feat))

Any source is allowed for the spells.

Thanks in advance.

gorfnab
2016-06-22, 08:11 PM
I'm making an Allurin (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Allurin_(3.5e_Race)) (the LA +1 version) as an NPC sorcerer lvl 20, but I need help deciding which spells to know. I want it to be similar to a succubus in that it typically uses deception/enchantments instead of direct combat, but if it is in combat I want it to still have a use, maybe turning enemies against each other? Ways of avoiding being hit is always nice too. Ways of doing damage might be good but I'd prefer it to be from a distance so this NPC doesn't die.

Have you considered using the Beguiler class instead of Sorcerer? The Beguiler class is loaded with Enchantment and Illusion spells plus it has the social skills necessary for out of combat manipulation.

There is a Sorcerer Handbook (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=p7v3h5b38uvrrd0olo5mpv3j81&topic=487), it has some stuff that may help you.
For spells take a look at this Handbook (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=394), mainly focused on Wizards but has a great rundown of spells broken down by schools.
For Beguiler I recommend this Handbook (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=p7v3h5b38uvrrd0olo5mpv3j81&topic=363).



Here's the feats it has, as some spells will not be very useful with these feats:

Functional Wings (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Functional_Wings_(3.5e_Feat))
Humanoid Guise (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Humanoid_Guise_(3.5e_Feat))
Succubus Sorcery (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Succubus_Sorcery_(3.5e_Feat))
Charm Person
Hypnotism
Detect Thoughts
Suggestion
Tongues
Charm Monster
Dominate Person
Mass Suggestion
Ethereal Jaunt
Greater Teleport
Summon Monster VIII (Vrock)
Sympathy
Dominate MonsterFiendish Telepathy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Fiendish_Telepathy_(3.5e_Feat))
Poison Kiss (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Poison_Kiss_(3.5e_Feat))
True Succubus Kiss (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/True_Succubus_Kiss_(3.5e_Feat))
Greater Abyssal Heritage (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Greater_Abyssal_Heritage_(3.5e_Feat))

Any source is allowed for the spells.

Thanks in advance.

Are you okay with using www.dandwiki.com? Almost none of the stuff posted on there is officially published D&D content, it's basically all homebrew (with most of it being of dubious quality).

Death_Lord12
2016-06-23, 06:31 AM
Have you considered using the Beguiler class instead of Sorcerer? The Beguiler class is loaded with Enchantment and Illusion spells plus it has the social skills necessary for out of combat manipulation.
I had not actually looked at Beguiler, thanks for pointing it out I think I may use it.


Are you okay with using www.dandwiki.com? Almost none of the stuff posted on there is officially published D&D content, it's basically all homebrew (with most of it being of dubious quality).
Yeah I'm aware it's homebrew and some of the balance can be questionable. I try balancing this with some other stuff thrown into the game, but other than that I have no issues with it.