Foivos
2016-07-05, 07:44 PM
So the feat Dancing with Shadows allows the use of a maneuver called lingering defense. To use this maneuver you need to hve used combat expertise with at least -2 penalty on attack rolls or have fought defensively for the last 2 rounds. This maneuver gives you the same dodge bonus from combat expertise without having to take a penalty to attack. My question is, what if the last two rounds you used (improved) combat expertise with different to-hit penalties. What I specifically want to do is:
Round 1: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC.
Round 2: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC and use the Graceful Lunge maneuver (from the same feat) to get 1 "good" attack.
Round 3: Use improved combat expertise with -2 with lingering defense for +BAB to AC and a number of "good" attacks.
Round 4: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC
Round 5: Use improved combat expertise with -2 with lingering defense for (?) +BAB to AC and a number of "good" attacks.
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Here are the three ways to interpret this:
1: Lingering defense only looks at the latest round bonus received from combat expertise. The above is therefore possible
2: To use Lingering defense with combat expertise the bonuses from it in the last 2 rounds must equal. The above is impossible
3: When using Lingering defense with combat expertise the bonus received is the minimum bonus received in the last 2 rounds. The above is impossible.
It seems to me the wording of the feat is vague enough that there is no absolute answer, but I wonder what you guys think.
P.S. The above is meant to work in a rogue build. I am aware of Power attack/Dexterous attack combos that make the above question unimportant.
Round 1: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC.
Round 2: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC and use the Graceful Lunge maneuver (from the same feat) to get 1 "good" attack.
Round 3: Use improved combat expertise with -2 with lingering defense for +BAB to AC and a number of "good" attacks.
Round 4: Use improved combat expertise with -BAB for +BAB to AC
Round 5: Use improved combat expertise with -2 with lingering defense for (?) +BAB to AC and a number of "good" attacks.
...
Here are the three ways to interpret this:
1: Lingering defense only looks at the latest round bonus received from combat expertise. The above is therefore possible
2: To use Lingering defense with combat expertise the bonuses from it in the last 2 rounds must equal. The above is impossible
3: When using Lingering defense with combat expertise the bonus received is the minimum bonus received in the last 2 rounds. The above is impossible.
It seems to me the wording of the feat is vague enough that there is no absolute answer, but I wonder what you guys think.
P.S. The above is meant to work in a rogue build. I am aware of Power attack/Dexterous attack combos that make the above question unimportant.