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ArlEammon
2016-07-15, 10:24 AM
Korra or Aang, either Avatar .. . can bend all four elements to their will with sheer force of power superior to Ozai's firebending, even under the Comet. The Inquisitor Mage can be any race other than Dwarves, of course. (Dwarves can't be Mages)

Assume the Inquisitor Mage is a full level 30, and assume any circumstance of specialist, be it Rift Mage, Necromancer or Knight Enchanter.

Ronnoc
2016-07-15, 10:40 AM
Barring mark of the rift dragon age inquistion mages don't really have any abilities that would even phase an Avatar in the avatar state. The inquisitor has some impressive durability feats as a knight enchanter but the Avatar is on another level. Compared to the other dragon age series protagonists the inquisitor tends to be less of a combat threat and more of a messianic figure/leader.

ArlEammon
2016-07-15, 11:04 AM
Barring mark of the rift dragon age inquistion mages don't really have any abilities that would even phase an Avatar in the avatar state. The inquisitor has some impressive durability feats as a knight enchanter but the Avatar is on another level. Compared to the other dragon age series protagonists the inquisitor tends to be less of a combat threat and more of a messianic figure/leader.

I think that as a slayer of Corypheus, and probably the Red Lyrium Dragon, Inquisitor is equal with either Hawke and/or the Warden. After all, Hawke slew Corypheus, so did the Inquisitor. I tend to think that since the Inquisitor shares his Inquisition with Solas, of all people, not to mention Vivienne, the First Enchanter of Orlais, Madame de Fer, also impressively Dorian, son of a Magister Lord, that he most certainly is a champion like the others.

Intriguing though, that the Avatar could be the most powerful mage in Thedas if he was there. What do you consider a threat to the Avatar then? How about an adventuring party vs the Avatar, Mage Inquisitor, Solas, Dorian, and Vivienne? Is Avatar a boss fight like in a video game?

TeChameleon
2016-07-17, 07:22 PM
Avatar-verse humans are ludicrously durable- even plain vanilla humans with no bending have repeatedly been shown to survive impacts that would shatter every bone in a real-world human's body, if not simply reduce them to a red smear, and survive those impacts with nothing worse than some brief dizziness and complaining about it hurting. They're idiotically tough, is what I'm saying.

Also, a fully-realized Avatar is a continental-scale threat; if they have less compunction about killing than Aang, then their opponents have to be able to survive... lesse. As a partial list off the top of my head...

WATER:

* Floods or gigantic waves that can drown large areas
* Water jets that can casually smash large buildings or narrow down to slice them in two
* 'Bubbles' of water that encase opponents' heads and stay there
* Inhumanly strong 'tentacles' made of water that can stretch to absurd lengths and act as both arms and whips
* Thrown 'blades' of water or ice sharp/strong enough to cut into stone
* Fast-moving ice as either spears or battering rams
* Being frozen solid, or having ice turn to water and back again in the blink of an eye to entomb them
* Near-instant walls or shields of ice or water
* Self-healing


EARTH:

* Huge boulders that act like guided missiles or smaller stones that act like (guided) bullets
* Earthquakes
* Chasms opening up under opponents' feet and then slamming shut to create an insta-fossil
* Sudden pillars smashing into opponents/launching them into the sky/pinning them/spearing them
* Lava flows, walls turning to lava
* The landscape reforming to their whim
* 'Hands' made of stone that can act as long-distance capture devices
* Near-instant walls or shields of earth and/or stone
* Considerable superhuman strength and durability


FIRE:

* Fire. Lots and lots and lots of fire. From 'walking flamethrower' to 'fire tornado' to 'natural disaster'
* Lightning bolts
* Rocket-assisted flight


AIR:

* Hurricane-plus force winds
* Air blasts that can be fined down to razor-sharp blades, or left broader to hit like a speeding train
* Fine air control that borders on telekinesis
* Ripping the air out of an opponents' lungs so that they suffocate
* Shields or pseudo-vehicles of compressed air
* Considerable superhuman speed and agility
* Flight (in Avatar state)


Plus there's the fact that all Avatars have a spirit animal, and the three that we know of (as far as I remember) would all present a fairly stiff fight all by themselves- Avatar Roku's dragon, which not only breathed fire, it was a powerful firebender in its own right, Appa, who's a strong airbender (and just friggin' strong), and Naga, who, while she might lack supernatural powers, is still a fast-moving 1500 lb. predator with impossible strength (she's ripped through steel bars like they were made of soggy spaghetti).

Avatars are hardly unbeatable, but it does say something that they've successfully (to one degree or another) been the peacekeepers of four fractious nations full of supernatural martial artists for millennia, while also being the emissaries between the human and spirit worlds.

I guess I'm just saying that I'm a bit dubious that the Dragon Age crew would do terribly well against someone on the Avatar's power scale, whether we assumed that Avatar-verse chi and Dragon Age magic worked the same or radically differently.

Ronnoc
2016-07-18, 01:01 PM
That said there is a way to take one out for the inquisitor it's called telling Lelliana to have the avatar assasinated. The list of people in Thedas who could take an avatar in a semi-fair fight basically boils down to Fen'Harel or an old god(and the old god only has a shot due to respawning). Assasination has a shot though.

Giggling Ghast
2016-07-18, 01:16 PM
The Avatar went down with one measly lightning bolt! That doesn't even kill a regular person in Dragon Age! :smalltongue:

Ronnoc
2016-07-18, 01:21 PM
The Avatar went down with one measly lightning bolt! That doesn't even kill a regular person in Dragon Age! :smalltongue:

I was ignoring that due to Aang not having mastered the avatar state at that point and that he has picked up lightning redirection since then.

Kitten Champion
2016-07-18, 03:31 PM
The Inquisitor could always cast Haste, slow the surrounding reality by 85% for twenty seconds - not the spell I'd get in-game, but there it is - and then spam Lightning tree spells or whatever.